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  • #31
    Originally posted by sheepdip View Post
    I expect basics and pound the ball. Kind of the opposite of Killdrive. He only ran when he HAD to.

    I am looking forward to seeing Jennings pound the ball on opposing teams to give us a rushing attack, give us more balance on offense and take some pressure and heat off Eli which should cut down on his INT's.

    Draft I am hoping we land Lewan and a stud guard in the second and later in the draft a center.

    Man smash mouth football !!!
    Originally posted by Roswell777 View Post
    Normally I would agree with you but I think they can get by with everything else and their need on the Oline is glaring. I guess they'll pick two Olinemen and look to supplement with a UDFA but if they did pick three and they were the correct three, they would be set up for years.
    Hoping Kiper doesn't blow it for us (top OL dropping to 12)...

    After talking to "several NFL clubs," ESPN's Mel Kiper stated Monday that he expects Michigan OT Taylor Lewan to be a top-six pick in May's draft.
    Think what you want about Kiper as a "talent evaluator;" he's one of the most accurate mock drafters in media, posting a top-five cumulative mock score on The Huddle Report over the past five years. Kiper believes Greg Robinson is the No. 1 tackle on most teams' boards, Lewan is No. 2, and Jake Matthews is No. 3. "If he doesnít go (No. 2 to St. Louis)," Kiper said of Lewan, "he could go to Oakland at five, definitely to Atlanta at six. I donít think he gets past six." Source: buffalobills.com Apr 28 - 3:37 PM

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    • #32
      I'd actually like to see the pace quickened.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by penguinfarmer View Post
        I'd actually like to see the pace quickened.
        ......and I am with you. No delay of game penalties is a good start.
        No one remembers who came in second.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
          I propose a plan:

          How about we not suck...like..forever?
          999-0, baby!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by jomo View Post
            ......and I am with you. No delay of game penalties is a good start.
            That would be a wonderful way to kick it off: less mistakes. A more protective front line!

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            • #36
              I expect:

              "Your route is your route".....less glaring, disastrous mistakes.
              The ball will be released earlier, meaning less pressure to hold blocks.
              The game will be uptempo, so the defense won't be able to freely substitute and jump the snap as the clock clicks down to :00.
              Running backs will be multidimensional weapons.


              In short, I expect some improvements, but they'll still need to see dramatic improvement from the line in order to become a top offense.
              Last edited by joemorrisforprez; 04-28-2014, 11:20 PM.
              "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

              "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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              • #37
                I'm expecting more quick patterns and screen plays, don't think we have the studs outside to count on the big play downfield like we have in years past

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by sheepdip View Post
                  I expect basics and pound the ball. Kind of the opposite of Killdrive. He only ran when he HAD to.

                  I am looking forward to seeing Jennings pound the ball on opposing teams to give us a rushing attack, give us more balance on offense and take some pressure and heat off Eli which should cut down on his INT's.

                  Draft I am hoping we land Lewan and a stud guard in the second and later in the draft a center.

                  Man smash mouth football !!!

                  And just when does a team "HAVE" to run the ball?

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                  • #39
                    Nobody knows what to expect, we have to wait and see

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                    • #40
                      I can see a variation of the West Coast offense/Uptempo offense, and smash mouth game. Kinda like the Pack use guys like Eddie Lacy and James Stark. LIke I said before, it'll just be the Pass setting up the Run instead of vice versa..

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Gimaniac View Post
                        Hard to envision smash mouth football with an alleged west coast offense being installed.
                        Perhaps the biggest misconception in all of football is that the West Coast offense isn't an effective run offense or that it cant be run 1st.

                        All you need do it look at last year and recent years in the NFL. Many of the most effective rushing teams in the recent NFL years have been under west coast systems.

                        The Skins, Chiefs, 49ers, Packers, Dolphins, Texans(were good rushing team up until last year), Bengals and Bears.

                        Even The Jets run a west coast system, and it is hard to argue they aren't a run 1st team.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
                          Perhaps the biggest misconception in all of football is that the West Coast offense isn't an effective run offense or that it cant be run 1st.

                          All you need do it look at last year and recent years in the NFL. Many of the most effective rushing teams in the recent NFL years have been under west coast systems.

                          The Skins, Chiefs, 49ers, Packers, Dolphins, Texans(were good rushing team up until last year), Bengals and Bears.

                          Even The Jets run a west coast system, and it is hard to argue they aren't a run 1st team.
                          By their very definition:

                          West coast offense emphasizes the pass.
                          Smash mouth football emphasizes the run.

                          So wtf are you talking about.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Gimaniac View Post
                            By their very definition:

                            West coast offense emphasizes the pass.
                            Smash mouth football emphasizes the run.

                            So wtf are you talking about.

                            As I pointed out, that is a huge misconception. Certainly the pass game is a huge part of the offense, but if you want many of the most successful west coast teams have been dominant running teams.


                            Green Bay was 1 of the best rushing teams in the NFL last year. How about the Chiefs? 49ers? What about the skins in recent years? Or perhaps the Texans in recent years?

                            All those are west coast teams...

                            Furthermore, if you go back to the team/ coaches that widely are considered the originators of this offense, the 49ers under Bill Walsh and then George Seifert, they won 5 Superbowls between 1981 and 1994. Only 1 of those teams was ranked outside the top 10 in rushing in the league(1981). The other 4 were ranked 8th, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd respectively in rushing.

                            The reason it is a misnomer that the west coast offense is pass happy is because in the generation that gave birth to it, it was hugely pass happy by comparison of that day. But it is a BALANCED offense.


                            In the 80's if a team passed the ball 50% of the time, they were pass happy. Now, if you pass 50% of the time, you are smash mouth. Its all relative.
                            Last edited by BlueSanta; 04-29-2014, 08:02 PM.
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                            • #44
                              No delay of game penalties is a good start. If I have already said this I apologize but I am a simple man with simple needs. Get the play in. Get the play off!
                              No one remembers who came in second.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
                                As I pointed out, that is a huge misnomer. Certainly the pass game is a huge part of the offense, but if you want many of the most successful west coast teams have been dominant running teams.


                                Green Bay was 1 of the best rushing teams in the NFL last year. How about the Chiefs? 49ers? What about the skins in recent years? Or perhaps the Texans in recent years?

                                All those are west coast teams...

                                Furthermore, if you go back to the team/ coaches that widely are considered the originators of this offense, the 49ers under Bill Walsh and then George Seifert, they won 5 Superbowls between 1981 and 1994. Only 1 of those teams was ranked outside the top 10 in rushing in the league(1981). The other 4 were ranked 8th, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd respectively in rushing.

                                The reason it is a misnomer that the west coast offense is pass happy is because in the generation that gave birth to it, it was hugely pass happy by comparison of that day. But it is a BALANCED offense.


                                In the 80's if a team passed the ball 50% of the time, they were pass happy. Now, if you pass 50% of the time, you are smash mouth. Its all relative.
                                Not to be the grammer police, but you have no idea what the word misnomer means.

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