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  • What were we and will we be a "true" West Coast Offense??

    I saw talk here about McAdoo implementing a West Coast offense, do we know that for sure? If so, then will we be using the quick horizontal pass to set up the run, versus using the run to set up the pass like Killdrive did? Also, this is rather naive, if we were not West Coast Offense before, what were we? Is there a name for the offense Killdrive ran? Is it from the Parcells tree of coaching? Or a nameless "traditional" system?
    Just when I don't think it can get any worse, I think of you Ray. I have been to the abyss....thank you for helping me stay positive.

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    It could be some combination thereof. Teams that are better defending the pass (seattle, dallas) would have gameplans based on power-running, while teams with better front sevens than secondaries (washington, detroit) will get more of a WC treatment.

    I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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    • #3
      Gillbrides offense was called the "Run and Shoot"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SUPERBOWL/BOUND/GIANTS View Post
        Gillbrides offense was called the "Run and Shoot"
        HOLY CRAP I knew that, why couldn't I recall it?? Thank you.
        Just when I don't think it can get any worse, I think of you Ray. I have been to the abyss....thank you for helping me stay positive.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BigBlueOnes View Post
          HOLY CRAP I knew that, why couldn't I recall it?? Thank you.
          We weren't running a run and shoot. It was more of an Erhardt/Perkins offense with R&S principles in the passing game.

          I'd imagine we'll be running a bit of a hybrid offense again under McAdoo. From the sounds of it the terminology is going to be WCO based, but I'm sure we'll still see Coughlin's fingerprint throughout, too. Should be fun to see how it actually unfolds.

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          • #6
            It will be a McAdoo/Coughlin offense.

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            • #7
              I don't care what they call it...I'm just excited to see Eli in a different offense.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by hadenough View Post
                I don't care what they call it...I'm just excited to see Eli in an offense.
                There, fixed it for you.
                Just when I don't think it can get any worse, I think of you Ray. I have been to the abyss....thank you for helping me stay positive.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BigBlueOnes View Post
                  There, fixed it for you.
                  I think you are being over critical of KG's offense. The passing game was elegant and dynamic when everyone was on the same page and the o line was functional. I just hope Mcadoo's offense works.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Drez View Post
                    We weren't running a run and shoot. It was more of an Erhardt/Perkins offense with R&S principles in the passing game.

                    I'd imagine we'll be running a bit of a hybrid offense again under McAdoo. From the sounds of it the terminology is going to be WCO based, but I'm sure we'll still see Coughlin's fingerprint throughout, too. Should be fun to see how it actually unfolds.
                    They ran a variation of the run and shoot, essentially adding a TE to the mix, but make no mistake about it, the WR routes were based on the run and shoot that KG has been running since the 80's, if not longer. TC also ran a variation of the run and shoot in Jacksonville.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by brad View Post
                      They ran a variation of the run and shoot, essentially adding a TE to the mix, but make no mistake about it, the WR routes were based on the run and shoot that KG has been running since the 80's, if not longer. TC also ran a variation of the run and shoot in Jacksonville.

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                      I said that the passing game was heavily influenced by the R&S, but was at its base an E-P offense. This article seems to agree with me: Source

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Drez View Post
                        I said that the passing game was heavily influenced by the R&S, but was at its base an E-P offense. This article seems to agree with me: Source
                        good read thanks drez

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SUPERBOWL/BOUND/GIANTS View Post
                          Gillbrides offense was called the "Run and Shoot"
                          I immediately thought of Plax.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BigBlueOnes View Post
                            I saw talk here about McAdoo implementing a West Coast offense, do we know that for sure?
                            No, but we have nothing else to talk about, so yes.

                            Originally posted by BigBlueOnes View Post
                            Is there a name for the offense Killdrive ran?
                            If you're talking about last year, then no.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JimC View Post
                              I think you are being over critical of KG's offense. The passing game was elegant and dynamic when everyone was on the same page and the o line was functional. I just hope Mcadoo's offense works.
                              I was being facetious. I appreciate what Gilbride brought. I don't think anyone would dare disagree that it was eventually figured out and he simply didn't change when we needed change. Seriously? Shotgun draw on 3rd and 34 and 34 yard pass on 3rd and inches??? You can't argue we had a bad O line, and you can't argue we had NO offense last year. Not all his fault, but his installed system allowed no flexibility when things went sour (like Eli getting killed, Nicks sucking, Wilson getting hurt..etc.)
                              Just when I don't think it can get any worse, I think of you Ray. I have been to the abyss....thank you for helping me stay positive.

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