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2013 QB Passing Stats: 3rd/4th-down with 9+ yards to go (see attempts)

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  • 2013 QB Passing Stats: 3rd/4th-down with 9+ yards to go (see attempts)



    Hard to be successful on third down with distances like that.

  • #2
    notice FLacco, the only other QB with near the amount of attempts under that parameter, and how his numbers are even worse than eli's. nothing new. thank you for the visual thou and statistical validation, but some of us (prob including you) have been discussing aspects like this for months now.

    it ultimately doesnt matter to some. no matter what, they feel Eli should have done better somehow. even if there really wasnt much room for improvement. imo, the 1 thing eli could have done was take more sacks instead of throwing it up. but, as eli and others have discussed tirelessly, a sack doesnt give the offense any chance at scoring or making a big play, whereby throwing it up in hopes of the WR making a much needed play, at least provides some chance of that big play/score.

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    • #3
      Seventy ****ing eight

      Pitiful, the best part is half of those are really 3rd and 15+

      He should take more sacks... lol

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      • #4
        With our OL I am not sure that any of this matters.
        No one remembers who came in second.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jomo View Post
          With our OL I am not sure that any of this matters.
          I think this speaks a lot to how well (poorly) the OL fared on 1st and 2nd downs, particularly in the running game.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
            notice FLacco, the only other QB with near the amount of attempts under that parameter, and how his numbers are even worse than eli's. nothing new. thank you for the visual thou and statistical validation, but some of us (prob including you) have been discussing aspects like this for months now.

            it ultimately doesnt matter to some. no matter what, they feel Eli should have done better somehow. even if there really wasnt much room for improvement. imo, the 1 thing eli could have done was take more sacks instead of throwing it up. but, as eli and others have discussed tirelessly, a sack doesnt give the offense any chance at scoring or making a big play, whereby throwing it up in hopes of the WR making a much needed play, at least provides some chance of that big play/score.
            Eli had problems last year but there were a lot of factors that contributed to that. Sometimes all it takes is a couple big plays from receivers for QB to break his rut and he didn't get that last year. Not letting Eli off the hook just saying it's not all his fault.

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            • #7
              Im surprised it is that high on attempts, considering how many shotgun draws we probably ran.
              Life is like a Giants game, you never know what you are going to get.

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              • #8
                damn thats a lottt of attempts of 3rd and 9 and longer lol makes sense though, we could never get anything going

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                • #9
                  Pathetic, and not just Eli, but the whole offense.
                  Do not feed the trolls.

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                  • #10
                    5 picks too in those situations and only a 6.35 yard average so what were they really doing there?? Trying to catch and run?

                    just a testement to how bad the O was. Even with that short average they still managed to turn it over 5 times.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                      5 picks too in those situations and only a 6.35 yard average so what were they really doing there?? Trying to catch and run?

                      just a testement to how bad the O was. Even with that short average they still managed to turn it over 5 times.
                      Considering all the picks Eli threw this year, 5 on third and fourth down is low overall. It means most of his picks came on 1st or 2nd down.
                      Do not feed the trolls.

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                      • #12
                        5 interceptions on 3rd and 4th downs with 9+ yards to gain.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Manning View Post
                          5 interceptions on 3rd and 4th downs with 9+ yards to gain.
                          you are right. In my defense, it seemed like they were all 9+ yards to gain.
                          Do not feed the trolls.

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                          • #14
                            Lack of success on 1st and 2nd down was clearly an issue last year. But stats can be misleading. It seems some here are trying to absolve Eli of any responsibility because he was always in 3rd and long situations, as if they never threw the ball on 1st or 2nd downs. Correlation does not equal causation, and this stat is a perfect example of that. They weren't playing poorly because they had a lot of 3rd and long situations, they had a lot of 3rd and long situations because they were playing poorly as a unit.
                            My goal had been to win a championship, work toward the Hall of Fame, have my jersey retired by the team and I`d go in as a lifelong New York Giant, but I`m now resigned to the fact that this won`t happen. -- Michael Strahan, just when you think you're down...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by brad View Post
                              Lack of success on 1st and 2nd down was clearly an issue last year. But stats can be misleading. It seems some here are trying to absolve Eli of any responsibility because he was always in 3rd and long situations, as if they never threw the ball on 1st or 2nd downs. Correlation does not equal causation, and this stat is a perfect example of that. They weren't playing poorly because they had a lot of 3rd and long situations, they had a lot of 3rd and long situations because they were playing poorly as a unit.
                              Who is absolving Eli from his play on 1st and 2nd down? The attempts figure is an indicator how poor the entire offense was on 1st and 2nd down and how often we were in 3rd and long situations.

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