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    Everyone remembers Jake ballard getting robbed of that TD but no one seems to mention the play were prince smacked the ball out of Greg jennings hands in the endzone witch looked like an incomplete pass but he was still rewarded with the TD. I cant take anymore bad officiating, If they ruin the game for us this weekend I'm gonna go crazy.

  • #2
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    Greg Jennings had already clearly established possession on the football in the end zone.

    Touchdown.

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    • #3
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      lol yeah Right

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      • #4
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        [quote user="paul anthony"]Everyone remembers Jake ballard getting robbed of that TD but no one seems to mention the play were prince smacked the ball out of Greg jennings hands in the endzone witch looked like an incomplete pass but he was still rewarded with the TD. I cant take anymore bad officiating, If they ruin the game for us this weekend I'm gonna go crazy.[/quote]




        I for one havent forgotten at all.




        The way the refs saw it is that he had possesion in his left hand... (for what must have been 1/10th of a second) ... and possesion in the endzone even just for an instant... is a td...




        now had he gone to the ground, he would have had to hold on to the ball all the way through.




        Whats baffling though is how that was ruled a td on the field with that ball flopping around on the ground after.... the refs looked at the replay and found what they needed to prove themselves right.... it should have been ruled incomplete and Green Bay could have challenged... maybe they get it maybe they dont at that point.




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        • #5
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          [quote user="Challenger"]Greg Jennings had already clearly established possession on the football in the end zone.

          Touchdown.
          [/quote]







          Nice Homer-vision. The Packers first lost of the season came at the hands of the Giants, not the Chiefs. The Packers were just fortunate enough to have a very incompetent crew referreeing the game. Kudos to you, be able to celebrate that false victory, you ignorant clown.

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          • #6
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            [quote user="Challenger"]Greg Jennings had already clearly established possession on the football in the end zone.

            Touchdown.
            [/quote]


            You have no idea what possession is if you think that was ....Please don't spread that crap here.....That could be one of the worst calls i have seen in 40 years watching this game.
            "When I was 15, I could not believe how dumb my father was.....when I was 25, I could not believe how much he had learned in 10 years"

            1st to use the phrase "In Reese we trust"

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            • #7
              Re: people keep forgetting!

              Perhaps you ought to familiarize yourselves with the NFL Rule Book.

              PLAYER POSSESSION
              Article 7????A player is in possession when he is in firm grip and control of the ball inbounds (See 3-2-3).
              To gain possession of a loose ball (3-2-3) that has been caught, intercepted, or recovered, a player must have
              complete control of the ball and have both feet or any other part of his body, other than his hands,
              completely on the ground inbounds, and maintain control of the ball long enough to perform any act
              common to the game. If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part
              of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession.
              This rule applies in the field of play and in the end zone.
              The terms catch, intercept, recover, advance, and fumble denote player possession (as distinguished from
              touching or muffing).
              Note 1: A player who goes to the ground in the process of attempting to secure possession of a loose ball (with
              or without contact by an opponent) must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting
              the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches
              the ground before he regains control, there is no possession. If he regains control prior to the ball touching
              the ground, it is a catch, interception, or recovery.
              Note 2: If a player goes to the ground out-of-bounds (with or without contact by an opponent) in the process of
              attempting to secure possession of a loose ball at the sideline, he must maintain complete and continuous
              control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, or there is no possession.
              Note 3: If a player has control of the ball, a slight movement of the ball will not be considered loss of
              possession. He must lose control of the ball in order to rule that there has been a loss of possession.

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              • #8
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                [quote user="Challenger"]Perhaps you ought to familiarize yourselves with the NFL Rule Book.

                PLAYER POSSESSION
                Article 7????A player is in possession when he is in firm grip and control of the ball inbounds (See 3-2-3).
                To gain possession of a loose ball (3-2-3) that has been caught, intercepted, or recovered, a player must have
                complete control of the ball and have both feet or any other part of his body, other than his hands,
                completely on the ground inbounds, and maintain control of the ball long enough to perform any act
                common to the game. If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part
                of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession.
                This rule applies in the field of play and in the end zone.
                The terms catch, intercept, recover, advance, and fumble denote player possession (as distinguished from
                touching or muffing).
                Note 1: A player who goes to the ground in the process of attempting to secure possession of a loose ball (with
                or without contact by an opponent) must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting
                the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches
                the ground before he regains control, there is no possession. If he regains control prior to the ball touching
                the ground, it is a catch, interception, or recovery.
                Note 2: If a player goes to the ground out-of-bounds (with or without contact by an opponent) in the process of
                attempting to secure possession of a loose ball at the sideline, he must maintain complete and continuous
                control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, or there is no possession.
                Note 3: If a player has control of the ball, a slight movement of the ball will not be considered loss of
                possession. He must lose control of the ball in order to rule that there has been a loss of possession.
                [/quote]

                Im glad you can spout the rules...now go look at the play ....He NEVER had any control of that ball....he was bobbling and then had it swatted away.........There were several questionable calls in that game....If you can not admit that you really are drinking the kool aid.....If any one of them had gone the other way that game is very different..

                Why don we see what happens this time around....I hope you are at least bright enough to realize this will not be an easy game for you win or lose....provided the refs call it both ways....which has NOT BEEN A GIVEN THIS YEAR IN ANY GAMES.
                "When I was 15, I could not believe how dumb my father was.....when I was 25, I could not believe how much he had learned in 10 years"

                1st to use the phrase "In Reese we trust"

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                • #9
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                  Rules schmooles...rules also say that a tomato, ALWAYS found in the vegetable section, is a fruit.




                  Anyone with half a brain knows that wasn't a TD.







                  Oh, and by the way, you Sir, are a tomato, no doubt.

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                  • #10
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                    [quote user="Challenger"]Perhaps you ought to familiarize yourselves with the NFL Rule Book.

                    PLAYER POSSESSION
                    Article 7????A player is in possession when he is in firm grip and control of the ball inbounds (See 3-2-3).
                    To gain possession of a loose ball (3-2-3) that has been caught, intercepted, or recovered, a player must have
                    complete control of the ball and have both feet or any other part of his body, other than his hands,
                    completely on the ground inbounds, and maintain control of the ball long enough to perform any act
                    common to the game
                    .
                    If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part
                    of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession.
                    This rule applies in the field of play and in the end zone.
                    The terms catch, intercept, recover, advance, and fumble denote player possession (as distinguished from
                    touching or muffing).
                    Note 1: A player who goes to the ground in the process of attempting to secure possession of a loose ball (with
                    or without contact by an opponent) must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting
                    the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches
                    the ground before he regains control, there is no possession. If he regains control prior to the ball touching
                    the ground, it is a catch, interception, or recovery.
                    Note 2: If a player goes to the ground out-of-bounds (with or without contact by an opponent) in the process of
                    attempting to secure possession of a loose ball at the sideline, he must maintain complete and continuous
                    control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, or there is no possession.
                    Note 3: If a player has control of the ball, a slight movement of the ball will not be considered loss of
                    possession. He must lose control of the ball in order to rule that there has been a loss of possession.
                    [/quote]




                    The ball was hardly secure... maybe MAYBE one could argue that he secured it at the very end with his left hand only... but he was out of bounds already before he could "perform an act common to the game".




                    Like i said.. there's nothing there in real time for this to have been rulled TD on the field... it should have been ruled incomplete on the field... GB should have had to challenge.... and since the refs arent fans of proving themselves wrong, it probably stays an incompletion.




                    http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000...-yard-TD-catch

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                    • #11
                      Re: people keep forgetting!

                      Wait, how was Ballard's a TD?

                      And how was Greg Jennings not a TD?

                      It was a close game and those were big plays, but the refs got those right.

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                      • #12
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                        [quote user="Ntegrase96"]Wait, how was Ballard's a TD?

                        And how was Greg Jennings not a TD?

                        It was a close game and those were big plays, but the refs got those right.
                        [/quote]

                        not that it matters but

                        A freeze phrame shows that Ballard was in.

                        The other play could go either way so I won't complain, plus the game was like a million years ago and nothing can be done about it so...page turned
                        My 5 year old son right before the kickoff of the Super Bowl 46: Dad, are the Giants gonna win?

                        Burier: Yes.

                        My 5 year old son right before the kickoff of Super Bowl 46: Do you promise?

                        Burier: Yes. I promise.

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                        • #13
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                          [quote user="SIMMS5611"]

                          Rules schmooles...rules also say that a tomato, ALWAYS found in the vegetable section, is a fruit.




                          Anyone with half a brain knows that wasn't a TD.







                          Oh, and by the way, you Sir, are a tomato, no doubt.

                          [/quote]
                          from a strictly biological standpoint it is a fruit legally it is a vegetable...technically it is a fruit...period
                          "When I was 15, I could not believe how dumb my father was.....when I was 25, I could not believe how much he had learned in 10 years"

                          1st to use the phrase "In Reese we trust"

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                          • #14
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                            [quote user="Ntegrase96"]Wait, how was Ballard's a TD?

                            And how was Greg Jennings not a TD?

                            It was a close game and those were big plays, but the refs got those right.
                            [/quote]




                            FAIL

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                            • #15
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                              [quote user="Ntegrase96"]Wait, how was Ballard's a TD?

                              And how was Greg Jennings not a TD?

                              It was a close game and those were big plays, but the refs got those right.
                              [/quote]




                              You lose all credibility with the first question. There were still photos of the play published after the game that clearly proves Ballard has full possession and one knee down inbounds which equates to two feet in the rule book. He also maintained possession all the way to the ground. Video replay footage can be frozen frame by frame giving you the same evidence the still photo did. The Jennings play is debateable the Ballard play is not, it was a clear TD for Ballardand anywaythe NFL admitted the Ballard call was wrong already.




                              So like SIMMS5611posted in reply to your post already:




                              FAIL!

                              Over 7000 posts, advanced member, joined March 2002. 1st post (as anonymous) was the day after Super Bowl 35

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