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    Excerpt: "
    Nine years after the infamous climax to a historic collapse, you still blame
    one guy. Go ahead, you can admit it: Around your household, which probably
    hasn’t been the same since, you probably refer to it as Junkin’s Blunder or
    Junkin’s Folly or anything that might describe a 7-yard snap that only travels 5
    yards, vulgarities optional.

    “All I know is,” Jim Fassel says now, “if anyone can blame that game on one
    player, they didn’t watch the whole game.”

    Perhaps that’s the problem with the events of Jan. 5, 2003 — it wasn’t just
    one game.

    It was an NFL playoff encounter with multiple subplots, an implausible
    momentum shift, an unprecedented officiating blunder, and one scapegoat. His
    name was Trey Junkin, a 41-year-old long snapper who contributed in a small but
    profound way during the Giants’ last
    postseason visit to San Francisco — an epic, wild-card meltdown that punched the
    ticket of a team that had a 24-point lead and a dormant death wish.

    And when the Giants’ litany of screw-ups resulted in a head-banging, 39-38
    defeat, Planet Blue had its Bill Buckner.

    We always found that somewhat amusing — you blow a 38-14 lead with 20 minutes
    to play and you blame the deep snapper? — and wondered whether Fassel shared
    our, uh, amusement. Short answer: He does not, because you can’t find jollity in
    the most agonizing defeat of a venerable career — especially one that defiled
    his sturdy, seven-year tenure as Giants head coach.

    But he doesn’t share the dim-bulb cant that it’s Junkin’s fault, either.

    “People forget, Trey was our fourth long snapper that year,” the former
    Giants coach said Tuesday from his home outside Vegas. “I didn’t cut any of ’em,
    either — they were all injured. So the week before that game, I brought Trey in
    because I knew him to be the consummate pro when I had him in Arizona (in
    1996).”


    "There’s no doubt Terrell Thomas would’ve rather been getting a jump on film
    study of the 49ers Tuesday instead of running on an AlterG anti-gravity

    However, considering it was the first time he ran since undergoing surgery to
    repair a torn anterior cruciate ligament in late September, it was a pretty good
    day after all.

    “This is where the fun starts right now,” the Giants cornerback said by phone from
    California before his workout. He had been placed on injured reserve before the
    regular season even began after tearing
    the ACL in his right knee
    for the second time.

    “This is when you start bending and really seeing the progression in the
    knee,” he said. “Before, it was just working on the stability and getting
    everything stronger around it.

    “The first time I tore my ACL, I never had any setbacks. Everything is going
    to accordance so I’m just staying positive and trying to progress.”

    It’s a challenge for Thomas to stay upbeat these days. While the Giants are
    two games into a potential Super Bowl run and on their way to his home state for
    Sunday’s NFC Championship Game in San Francisco, Thomas is “in his own season,”
    as he put it.

    The free-agent-to-be stayed away most of the past few months after his injury
    in a preseason game against the Bears so he could focus on his rehab. But he
    made an appearance at the team’s facility a few days before the wild-card game
    against the Falcons. That Sunday, he was on the sideline during the pregame
    before heading upstairs to the booth so he wouldn’t be a “distraction.”

    Though he claims it “wasn’t that tough” because he was there to provide
    support, Thomas is dealing with the same issues many injured players experience
    — they’re part of the team but can’t help but feel a bit detached.

    “The way they really came together this year, obviously we had our ups and
    downs and struggled at times, but we played together. That’s the main thing I
    missed most and the hardest part,” he said. “Last year, we were a roller
    coaster. Sometimes we played as a team and sometimes we were all individuals out
    there. But they’re all playing together right now. From offense, defense and
    special teams and it’s working for them.

    “They had two (playoff) games to win and they did what they had to do.
    They’re jelling and they’re hot right now.”

    Thomas says he never had a doubt this defense would get its act together,
    even as he was sitting at home and watching the breakdowns against the Cowboys.
    To him, they were mental issues, not physical ones, so he had a feeling they’d
    be ironed out — and they have.

    “Not to say my teammates (stink), but just to make a comparison, if a guy
    (stinks) or a team (stinks) but they get hot and they believe in themselves,
    that’s all that matters,” he said. “They got that mental process out of the way,
    they believe in themselves, they’re playing good ball right now and
    communicating and having fun. You see that confidence just like it was when they
    were winning in the beginning of the season.

    “The swagger is back and I don’t think they’re going to lose it.”

    Speaking of things Thomas doesn’t expect to be lost, he believes he’ll
    maintain the speed and “spring” he had before the surgery. He’s been through
    this rehab process before, went to the same surgeon and once again opted for the
    cadaver ligament instead of the hamstring tendon as a replacement. Plus, he’s
    seeing positive signs early on that have him believing he’ll be as good as

    “When you’re able to do things three weeks ahead of schedule like I have,
    it’s definitely a positive,” he said, adding this about the two rehabs:
    “Comparing my knee from then to now it feels the same way.”

    The only question is whether the Giants will be the ones to potentially
    benefit from such a recovery.

    In a little less than two months, he’ll hit the market as an unrestricted
    free agent. If he’d stayed healthy, Thomas would’ve been in line for a big
    payday, especially since he was working to make more plays on the ball and was
    having an outstanding training camp before Jason Pierre-Paul collided with him
    with 22 seconds left in the first half against Chicago. Now, it’s a bit
    trickier, as the Giants or another team will have to make an offer based on the
    projected recovery.

    So far, there have been no contract talks. The team is focused on the current
    season, and Thomas is providing support.

    But pretty soon, he’ll get to feel included once again.

    “I’m getting excited. It’s my time now,” he said. “I got hurt and had my
    surgery and now it’s my time. Once they win this game and go to the Super Bowl,
    once the season’s over, it’s all about me hopefully re-signing with the Giants
    and moving forward.”

    Thomas thanked the fans for lifting his spirits during his recovery, which is
    why he's tried to keep them in the loop on his recovery via the blog on his website.

    "My Twitter family and
    all my followers have made me feel appreciated and never made me feel lost," he
    said. "I get countless tweets about, 'We miss you out there, can’t wait to see
    you back on the field,' and so on and so on. I definitely appreciate it. I know
    the truth behind it, I’m out here in LA rehabbing and in my own season but I
    definitely feel and appreciate the support from my team and the Giants fans."


    Excerpt: "He was walking down the red carpet at the Golden Globes, a march with the
    Hollywood elite that millions would die to make. And all Chris Mara wanted was a
    better glimpse of that damn TV monitor.

    There it was, so frustratingly close, outside the velvet ropes. Mara could
    see that it had the Giants game on. But,
    thanks to his poor eyesight and all those view-blocking celebrities — Hey,
    Tom Hanks, down in front!
    — he could barely make out what was happening a
    few thousand miles away in slightly less glamorous Green Bay.

    “Did we just intercept that?!” Mara asked his wife.

    No, he was told. Giants cornerback Aaron Ross had just knocked down a pass.
    It was still in the third quarter, the divisional playoff game between the
    Packers and Giants still in doubt, and his talented daughter Rooney was wowing
    the papar***i in a black Nina Ricci gown. But she was stopping every 10 feet for
    another interview, and her dad was running out of patience.

    Rooney, the breakout star from “The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo,” was
    nominated for best actress in a drama — a field that included superstars Meryl
    Streep and Glenn Close. Her father had missed his first Giants playoff game in
    40 years to be at her side, a decision that ranked among the easiest in his

    “Somebody said, ‘Jeez, you’re missing the Giants game,’?” Mara said, who
    replied, “Yeah, this isn’t exactly a piano recital.”

    But he warned Rooney: He would not linger on the red carpet. It wasn’t
    exactly like the photographers were waiting to se what the Giants’ senior vice
    president of player evaluation was wearing (which, for the record, was a vintage
    Brooks Brothers suit with a Johnny-O tie).

    So, as soon as he had an opening, Mara made like Victor Cruz and broke away
    from the crowd. He hustled down the carpet and up to a suite in the Beverly
    Hilton, where a couple of Sony executives told him that they’d be watching the

    This is how Sunday went for Mara. If 45.1 million people watched the
    Packers-Giants game, and another 16.8 million watched the Golden Globes, then
    about a quarter of the country had some interest in what his family was doing.

    Mara was desperate to watch both, and this led to one of the wildest days of
    his life. He caught the first quarter in his hotel room, then watched most of
    the second quarter in his daughter’s room."


    Excerpt: "
    The change in the San Francisco 49ers' attitude this season might be most
    evident when the defensive backs gather in a team meeting room each week to
    watch the highlight video from the previous game.

    Secondary coach Ed Donatell counts and compares the number of "domination
    hits" in a fierce and friendly competition among players. The challenge is for
    each to deliver at least one crushing -- but legal -- blow on an opponent every

    "We're not really trying to hurt people," safety Donte Whitner said. "But
    when we play physical, people get hurt."

    The hard-hitting, ball-hawking secondary has created its share of imposing
    images for San Francisco (14-3) this season, part of a defense that has carried
    the franchise back to the NFC Championship Game for the first time in 14 years
    to face the Giants (11-7) on Sunday at Candlestick Park.

    Whitner and fellow safety Dashon Goldson were a last-minute pairing in
    training camp. Goldson seemed certain he wouldn't return after Whitner signed as
    a free agent from the Buffalo Bills, even tweeting goodbye to 49ers fans only to
    have the franchise re-sign him days later.

    The same might've been said for cornerbacks Carlos Rogers and Tarell Brown.
    San Francisco cut high-priced cornerback Nate Clements -- who received an $80
    million, eight-year contract in March 2007 but never met expectations -- just
    before training camp in favor of a duo that had its share of problems picking
    off passes.

    Not anymore.

    General manager Trent Baalke's decisions in the secondary have turned into
    49ers gold, building the back-end of a defense that led the NFL with 38
    takeaways -- including a half-dozen interceptions each for Rogers and Goldson --
    with a physical foursome that is drawing comparisons to the Pittsburgh Steelers
    and Baltimore Ravens of recent years.

    "They really bring a tone-setting physicality to their tackling," 49ers coach
    Jim Harbaugh said.

    Take last week for instance.

    Setting the stage for a collision-filled 36-32 victory over the New Orleans
    Saints, Goldson walked out for the team's first practice wearing his game-day
    eye black. Whitner put in his mouthpiece for the full-padded practice -- rare
    for NFL teams this late in the season -- and warned his teammates about what to

    "I told them, 'Get out of my way, because I'm going to hit everything that's
    moving,'" Whitner said.

    He delivered on his promise."



    Excerpt: "
    The NFC Championship Game kicks off Sunday in San Francisco at 6:30 p.m. The
    following is a sampling of stories about the 49ers from the Bay Area leading up
    to the matchup against the Giants.

    Branch, San Francisco Chronicle
    : The Giants deserved to beat the Green Bay
    Packers last Sunday because they played harder, according to the assessment of
    49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh. The first-year coach in San Francsisco also said
    the Giants are a "scary opponent" during a press conference with reporters
    Monday. More
    of Harbaugh's thoughts on the Giants
    can be found in this video of Monday's
    press conference. Interestingly, Tom
    Coughlin characterized the 49ers as a "dangerous team"

    Branch, San Francisco Chronicle
    : Harbaugh mentioned there is only
    one NFL team he roots for besides the 49ers -- the Baltimore Ravens, coached by
    his brother, John
    . The Ravens beat the Houston Texans last weekend to
    advance to Sunday's AFC Championship Game against the New England Patriots,
    meaning the brothers are each a victory from facing each other in Super Bowl
    XLVI. (On Thanksgiving, the Ravens beat the 49ers, 16-6.) Jim Harbaugh mentioned
    that his parents have yet to decide if they will be in Foxborough, Mass., or San
    Francisco on Sunday. One option is to attend neither, Harbaugh said, and watch
    on TV in Wisconsin.

    : 49ers owner Jed York announced on Twitter that
    Eddie DeBartolo will serve as the honorary game captain Sunday. The franchise
    won five Super Bowls during DeBartolo's tenure as owner, from 1977-2000.

    : Jim Harbaugh was coy about his team's injuries
    Monday, not revealing much information on whether those players ailing from the
    Saints game or earlier in the season will participate Sunday. Ted Ginn, the
    49ers' No. 2 wide receiver, was seen limping in the team's practice facility.
    Ginn hurt his right kneecap against the Saints. Harbaugh offered no update,
    either, on Delanie Walker, the 49ers' backup tight end. Responding to an inquiry
    about his right leg, thought to be jarred during the 49ers' final drive, running
    back Frank Gore said,
    according to the San Jose Mercury News
    , "I feel good."

    Knapp, San Francisco Chronicle
    : Jonathan Goodwin also left Saturday's game
    against the Saints briefly, with what surmised was a left calf
    strain. Goodwin returned and continue to anchor the 49ers line against his
    former team, so well that Harbaugh referred to him as a "block of granite."
    Goodwin was signed last offseason after the Giants lured David Baas to New York
    to center the line to protect Eli Manning."


    Be honest, Giants fans. After the 23-10 loss to the Redskins on Dec. 18,
    would you have said the Giants were one of the four best teams in the NFL this
    year? Some might not even say so now, but, haters, you can check the

    On Dec. 18, however, the Giants lost
    to the then 4-9 Redskins 23-10 at home
    , going 3-for-9
    on third down
    , turning the ball over on three Eli Manning picks, having
    trouble with the sun
    , struggling with
    the two-minute drill
    - and ugh - that Hakeem Nicks dropped TD. It was a
    smorgasbord of problems, badly blowing a game that would have made a playoff
    clinch much easier.

    You hated that game - you
    hated the effort

    But here they are, four straight dominant wins later, one win from a trip to
    the Super Bowl, one of the four best teams in the NFL. What changed?

    We know about getting healthy - Osi Umenyiora came back two weeks later and
    the defense has seemed completely transformed - and there were other key returns
    from the training room. The 'Skins game sparked some
    pretty ugly finger pointing
    , but maybe that was a good thing? And is it us,
    or does it seem like the Giants quit dropping so many passes?

    Giants fans, tell us how the 7-7 Giants turned into contenders for the NFC
    Championship and the Super Bowl, one of the four best teams in the NFL this


    Excerpt: "
    The opposing defensive backs in these NFC playoffs haven’t come close to
    covering Hakeem Nicks, but they shouldn’t feel too badly about that. Isotoner
    can’t cover him, either.

    At least, not the kind Nicks has tried to find in stores. He gets the big red
    gloves that he wears on the field from the team’s equipment staff, but gloves
    for his own day-to-day wear?

    Pockets will have to do.

    “I don’t wear them,” he said just a few minutes before heading out into the
    January cold. He hasn’t tried to buy a pair from a mall or a department store
    since high school, when he realized what he had at the end of his arms. “I
    already know not to try them on because I know they won’t fit.”

    So there are drawbacks to having a 4-XL glove size. The massive mitts make it
    difficult to do day-to-day things. Punter Steve Weatherford, for example, handed
    Nicks a silver Sharpie to autograph a couple footballs Monday, and the marker
    looked like a golf pencil as he signed.

    Presumably, if you need somebody to open a pickle jar, Nicks can help. But if
    you’re looking for somebody to get a quarter that’s falling between the seat and
    the arm rest in your car ... not your man.

    “The first time I met the guy, I shook his hands and I was like, ‘(Holy
    cow)!’” fellow receiver Victor Cruz said. “His fingers were down here” — he was
    pointing to the middle of his wrist, a bit of an exaggeration — “and I was like,
    ‘I know with his size and strength, he has to be a monster.’”

    That monster is one victory away from a Super Bowl now in his first playoff
    appearance. State Farm lost those “Discount Double Check” commercials when the
    Green Bay Packers were eliminated. Maybe Allstate should hire Nicks. Because,
    clearly, the Giants are in good hands
    with him.

    Those hands are the reason that, the moment Nicks left the ground and raised
    them in the air at
    the end of the first half in Green Bay
    , Coughlin had a good feeling his
    13-10 lead was about to become 20-10.

    “These are special hands, now,” Coughlin, who worked for years as a receivers
    coach, said with a sense of wonder in his voice. “I could give you a bunch of
    guys I’ve personally had a chance to coach that were great players, but this
    guy, when he gets his mitts on the ball ...” Read more...


    Excerpt: "Maybe it’s all those years he spent on the outside looking in — the multiple
    surgeries, the season he played in Germany, the job at Home Depot — but Dave
    Tollefson can’t get enough of this league, so much so that he got home from
    Green Bay on Sunday night and stared at the highlights until past 5 in the

    After a while, he realized the shows were on a loop, but it didn’t matter —
    he still was struck by something that was almost like a football epiphany.

    “As I was watching the shows, I realized that it’s not even a question
    anymore that playoff football is totally different from regular-season
    football,” the Giants defensive end said. “But when you get to the playoffs —
    and I mean this literally — what happened in the regular season means absolutely

    Yes, he was talking about the defense again. Because if anything has
    progressed to a mind-blowing extreme, it’s the transmutation of the Giants' defense from a speed bump to a
    clenched fist.

    There’s something gratifying about this — not because we can count on them
    shelving that annoying “Discount Double Check” campaign pretty soon, but because
    this Giants group is getting closer each week to championing a style that we had
    feared was almost obsolete.

    We ended up being very wrong, of course: Of all those shaky defenses that
    entered this tournament, only one — the generous Belichicks of Foxborough —
    remains. Indeed, three of the teams in the Final Four are superb defensively,
    and in the age of offensive dominion, what conclusions should be drawn from

    Right, don’t say it: Defense still wins — no bulletin there. But as the game
    has changed, it’s harder for that axiom to hold up. Occasionally, it even gets
    demolished by the likes of New Orleans.

    That’s why we find it comforting to see two teams in the NFC provide the
    proof that you can disrupt high-octane offenses and ultimately win the chess
    game. Some of us were surprised the Giants were able to do it against the
    Packers. Some of us were surprised the San Francisco 49ers were able to do it
    against the New Orleans Saints. But they both did it.

    In the
    Giants’ case
    , brilliantly."


    Excerpt: "
    In the postgame locker room at Candlestick Park on Nov. 13, after Eli
    Manning’s fourth-down pass was batted down by Justin Smith with 34 seconds
    remaining in the game, a bunch of Giants
    said they wanted one more crack at the San Francisco 49ers.

    One of them was Victor Cruz, who desired another piece of the 49ers as a
    whole as well as the chance to go against cornerback Carlos Rogers, who
    irritated him that day by talking trash and mocking
    Cruz’s salsa dance
    after an interception.

    This Sunday, in the NFC Championship Game in San Francisco, Cruz will see
    Rogers again in the game that will determine which team goes to Indianapolis for
    Super Bowl XLVI.

    “I did want that rematch,” the Giants wide receiver told The Star-Ledger
    today. “I do remember the salsa. It’s very vivid in my memory. I’m just excited
    to go back there and I’m going to make sure I get in his ear a little bit
    because we had a nice little matchup last time.

    “It’s just good. Hopefully we can get a little bit of revenge and we’ll see
    how it goes.”

    The Giants believe they might be on a mini-revenge tour right now, having
    beaten the Packers and now seeing the 49ers on deck. Some have gone so far as to
    suggest it could continue with the Ravens in a rematch of Super Bowl XXXV, but
    let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

    For now, know there’s a lot of confidence and excitement being spewed by the
    Giants, who feel they could’ve easily beaten the 49ers in a game that slipped
    out of their hands starting with a hamstring injury that knocked out Michael
    Boley in the second quarter.

    “That’s a game I honestly felt like we shouldn’t have lost. I felt like we
    let that one get away,” safety Kenny Phillips said. “They are a good team, they
    played extremely well (Saturday), but I think we’ll get the job done.”

    Why’s that?

    “Because we felt like we could’ve beat them,” said Deon Grant, who vacated an
    area rookie Greg Jones should’ve helped cover on Vernon Davis’ touchdown. “It
    was a good game. It came down to a few plays here and there, and I have to tip
    my hat ... because they dialed up the right plays to beat us, so I can’t take
    anything from them.

    “We still felt like, humbly, we should’ve beaten those guys.” Read more...


    Excerpt: "
    It was late in the first half against the San Francisco 49ers on Nov. 13 that
    Giants linebacker Michael Boley suffered
    the hamstring injury that would sideline him for the next two games and hinder
    him for the first few weeks of his return.

    With Boley, the defensive
    play-caller, in street clothes in the second half, the Giants were forced to
    rely on an inexperienced unit and it showed as the 49ers ran for 77 yards in the
    two quarters en route to a
    27-20 victory.

    Several of his teammates have talked about getting a second crack at San
    Francisco after losing in Week 11 — in a way for Boley, it’ll be his first

    “It does (stink) I got hurt but that’s with anybody,” Boley said. “You hate
    watching the game from the sideline, regardless of whether you feel you could’ve
    helped or not. But I guess going back up there could be a little extra incentive
    because I didn’t finish the first one.”

    Boley wasn’t the only member of the Giants defense nicked up or out

    “We didn’t have a fully healthy (Justin) Tuck, Osi (Umenyiora) wasn’t there,”
    he said. “We were missing a lot of guys. Not to use that as an excuse. That’s
    just the reality of it.”

    49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh acknowledged the Giants’ injuries in the teams’
    first meeting and knows it goes hand-in-hand with how the Giants, winners of
    five straight, have been playing lately.

    “Healthier is the biggest thing, especially on the defensive side of the
    ball,” Harbaugh told San Francisco reporters today. “Especially the linebacker
    unit. When we faced them, they were really down to one linebacker, two really
    young linebackers and one linebacker playing out of position.

    “That group is really playing at a high level and much different.”

    Now the Giants are as healthy as they have been all season — the only player
    out of Sunday’s win over Green Bay was rookie LB Mark Herzlich and even he said
    that he hoped to return to practice this week if the Giants advanced past the

    WR Victor Cruz had five touchdowns of 65 yards or longer
    this season, so where does the recovery of the onside kick on Sunday rank?

    “It’s gotta rank No. 1, man,” Cruz said. “Against Green Bay, against Aaron
    Rodgers and not letting them get that ball back ... It probably changed the
    complexion of the game. It was tremendous I was able to get the football, I
    almost forgot we were on offense.”

    Cruz said his quad feels okay after getting hit there on Sunday and that the
    plan is for him to practice Wednesday."


    Travel to and from Green Bay was a nightmare. Fares were through the roof
    (and then unavailable by the time the Giants' game against the Atlanta Falcons
    was over. In short, I had to drive to Chicago after the game and then head to
    the airport two hours later.

    Long story short, I didn't watch this game as in-depth as usual, but I got
    through it much more quickly than I had hoped. The fact this is up before Monday
    became Tuesday is actually a major victory.

    But as always, help us out by filling in the gaps and giving us what you

    * * * *


    QB Eli Manning. My wife is off from work today so when I got
    home this morning, she was giving me her version of a game review. (I lead the
    league in gassers in her reviews.) She’s a football novice but she’s learning
    with each game during this run here. She told me, “Eli doesn’t run very much.
    Not like Aaron Rodgers. He runs all the time.” Three plays into the game review,
    I rewound his throw to WR Mario Manningham when he had LB Desmond Bishop coming
    right at him and said, “No, he doesn’t run much. But this is how he uses his
    feet, to slide just enough in the pocket to buy time for the receiver to
    complete the route. He’s done that better this year than ever.” QBs
    coach Mike Sullivan and his unorthodox drills
    are a big reason why. Also,
    we’d be remiss if we didn’t mention, “The Block” on RB Ahmad Bradshaw’s run in
    the fourth quarter. “We had to hear about the scramble and now we’ll have to
    hear about ‘The Block,’” RG Chris Snee said. “It’ll be called ‘The Block.’” One
    minor, minor qualm, though: Manning could’ve run for the first down on
    third-and-5 on the opening drive. The presence of LB A.J. Hawk made him rethink
    that one at the last minute and the pass fell incomplete.

    Coach Tom Coughlin. “We must be what, 0-for-100 by now?”
    Coughlin said of replay challenges. Close. They’ve lost eight in a row. But
    frankly, it’s the only area of Coughlin’s jurisdiction that’s been slipping of
    late. He’s got this team believing and the way guys like S Antrel Rolle have
    bought in is kind of incredible.

    Defensive coordinator Perry Fewell. The players said
    afterward the game plan was to defend the edges of the field and keep everything
    the Packers did to the inside and underneath. You could see the way the
    cornerbacks took their drops that’s exactly what they were doing. It was a
    smart, smart plan because Rodgers had killed the Giants near the sideline in
    their first meeting. Not so much Sunday. Take a look at the difference between
    the first and second meeting of these teams in Rodgers’ passes outside the
    numbers, per an
    ESPN stat
    (on the right side of the page): 21-for-25 and three touchdowns in
    Week 13, 11-for-23 and zero touchdowns on Sunday.

    Special teams coordinator Tom Quinn. Rookie LB Greg Jones
    and S Derrick Martin didn’t budge on the surprise onside kick after the 49ers
    were successful in catching
    the Giants napping earlier this season
    . Quinn took a lot of heat last
    season, but Coughlin stood by him and was quick to praise him and assistant
    special teams coach Larry Izzo on Sunday. I’m not sure what happened on the
    blocked field goal. It looked like OT Tony Ugoh stumbled a bit.

    Manningham. I mean, is anybody watching film of the
    Giants inside the 10-yard line? How can you not guard against that play-action
    quick slant behind the linebackers by now? Anyway, nice job by Manningham, who
    had three catches – two for third-down conversions and one for a touchdown.

    WR Victor Cruz. Speaking of third-down conversions, he
    caught three of them. But get this: today, he was asked where the onside-kick
    recovery ranks on his list of plays this year and said, “Probably No. 1.” His
    point was it helped seal a divisional-round game over the defending champs, but
    I think he’s too quickly forgetting any of the five touchdowns of 65 yards or
    more he had this season.

    Martin. He’s flown under the radar this year because he’s a
    special-teamer but he’s a popular guy with his teammates and a heady player,
    according to those who line up next to him.

    Jones. As I said, he didn't budge. He also nearly forced a
    fumble on that kickoff in the first quarter. He's been very good on

    WR Hakeem Nicks. You need only to watch Packers CB Jarrett
    Bush’s reaction to his Hail Mary catch to see how it “broke their backs,” as
    Brandon Jacobs put it
    . And speaking of the Hail Mary, I had a guy mention to
    me on Twitter he objects to that term being used because that was a great throw
    and catch. I wouldn’t go that far, but it wasn’t a Hail Mary like the Jaguars’ catch nearly
    making Gus Johnson’s head explode
    was a Hail Mary. This wasn’t luck. It was
    skill. And it was badly misplayed by Bush and outside CB Sam Shields, who
    trailed the play and didn’t hustle toward Nicks in the end zone. There was no
    threat underneath them and even if there was, there was no time left on the
    clock, so a tackle in the field of play ends the half. As for S Charlie Peprah,
    I wonder if he thought the ball was going to carry a bit more in the wind. The
    only quote I saw from him was in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. He said he "didn’t
    get off the ground the way I wanted to
    . He just made a better play on the
    ball than I did.”

    RT Kareem McKenzie. I
    mentioned in my game preview
    the Giants would keep a close eye on LB Clay
    Matthews, especially when they wanted to take their shots downfield. They did
    just that. It’s obvious the Packers early on were trying to use Matthews as a
    bit of a decoy at times by sending him up the field and then bringing a blitzer
    underneath him. The Giants’ backs, tight ends and McKenzie did a very good job
    for the most part of staying composed and picking up the right players.

    Bradshaw. While we’re talking about blitz pickups, how about
    the one he had when he went low on Bishop on TE Travis Beckum’s 10-yard catch on
    the opening drive? A big reason why that’s effective is Bradshaw doesn’t always
    rely on the cut block. He’ll go toe-to-toe with a linebacker without even
    blinking. When you dive at ankles too often, blitzers will know it’s coming.
    Bradshaw has the guts to stick his face mask in there, so it was effective
    there. Oh, and he also had that 23-yard cutback run we were gushing about last
    night. You know, the one that made the Hail Mary to Nicks possible. Even Snee
    said it was a “shock” to see Bradshaw suddenly on his right after taking a pitch
    to the left. Terrific, big-time play.

    LB Michael Boley. I want to give Fewell and his assistants
    more props on this one because they helped make Boley’s first sack possible with
    great design up front. DE Osi Umenyiora ran a twist with a standing DE Justin
    Tuck to Boley’s right and that forced RT Bryan Bulaga to slide down inside a bit
    before he picked up Tuck looping toward him. At that point, Boley has a ton of
    room inside of him. Now, time to credit Boley for being physical with RB James
    Starks to take away Rodgers’ escape hatch to his right. That left him only to
    step up into the pocket. Once Boley shed Starks and crashed down on Rodgers,
    that outlet was gone, too. I’ll have more on Boley’s crucial sack on
    fourth-and-5 down below. Boley now has three sacks in the regular season and
    playoffs combined: two of Rodgers and one of Tom Brady. Not too shabby right

    S Kenny Phillips. I thought he just got lucky when he
    knocked the ball from RB Ryan Grant to set up a touchdown that gave the Giants a
    17-point lead.

    S Deon Grant. He came down on Grant to knock a ball out of
    his hands on a short hook. He also had an interception in the fourth quarter.
    But most importantly and impressively, he fell on his sword after the game when
    about a shoving match with TE Jermichael Finley
    and said it was absolutely
    his fault for overreacting. Very, very admirable right there.

    Rolle. See the under-the-radar play.

    Umenyiora. He's absolutely right when he says he'd be among
    the sack leaders had he played 16 games.

    CB Aaron Ross. If Umenyiora doesn’t come through with a
    strip sack, we might be writing much different stories today. (See below.) But
    he did and Ross had an otherwise solid game. He just needs to remember to
    hydrate well, which has been an issue for him in the past.

    CB Corey Webster. He didn't show up much. That's a good

    Packers WR Donald Driver. He made an outstanding catch with
    Phillips reaching into the “basket” (that’s what Herm Edwards called the
    receivers’ hands in my
    Sunday story
    ) in the third quarter. While watching that play live, I saw
    Phillips crashing down and didn’t think Driver had a prayer of catching that.
    Later, he made an outstanding leaping catch with LB Jacquian Williams all over
    him and I starred that play as a potential turning point for Green Bay’s
    offense. It wasn’t, though Driver isn’t to blame for that.

    Bishop. He was not one of the Packers I’d describe as rusty
    and played an outstanding game, particularly with his pressures up the

    Packers LB Brad Jones. Blocked field goal and a sack in the
    fourth quarter.

    * * * *


    Rodgers. He and his targets were definitely out of synch,
    though his reactions told me he believed it was more them than him. Early in the
    third quarter, on a misfire to WR Greg Jennings, who got behind Ross in man
    coverage, Rodgers seemed to want Jennings to continue up the seam instead of
    bending his route a bit to the middle. Jennings adjusted because Phillips was
    deep to the outside, presumably as part of that contain coverage the Giants were
    playing. The big miss was on the third-and-5 to start the fourth quarter. It
    looked like he either wanted Finley to flatten his route out a bit or not sit
    down like it appeared Finley did. Troy Aikman said it’s more on Rodgers. I don’t
    know about that one.

    * * * *


    Peprah. “You have to tackle in the playoffs,” he said. Yes,
    and you have to wrap to tackle. In all, I counted nine missed tackles for 92
    extra yards for the Packers through two-plus quarters. I stopped counting at
    some point late in the third quarter.

    Bush and Shields. See above.

    Finley, Grant, Starks,
    Packers FB John Kuhn, TE Tom Crabtree. Drops
    and fumbles from this bunch.

    Referee Bill Leavy and his crew. Between the botched replay,
    the helmet-to-helmet hit by Umenyiora that never came close to happening, the
    helmet-to-helmet hit by Bishop on Manning that actually did happen but wasn’t
    called and a few other missed calls, that was a bad job by that crew.

    * * * *


    Maybe I’m trying to be a bit too smart for the room again, but the open-field
    tackle by Rolle on Starks at the end of his 29-yard run turned out to be a big
    one. When I saw Starks get the edge, I thought he was gone. Rolle came down to
    cut the angle and get a piece of Starks as he tried to cut back. It was Rolle or
    the end zone there and Rolle won.

    The Packers wound up settling for a field goal that made it 20-13. If they
    get a touchdown there, the game takes on a new feel. Plus, when the Giants kick
    a field goal midway through the fourth quarter, it’s still a one-possession game
    and the Packers can take the lead with a field goal.

    But that’s not the way it played out, thanks to an unheralded play by Rolle,
    which was followed by his excellent pass defensed on a fade in the end zone a
    few plays later. That was a dandy because he avoided Driver when he crossed with
    Jennings in an attempt to rub him off the route.

    * * * *


    I was telling someone recently the NFL should just do what the NHL does with
    its replay system and have everything reviewed in the “War Room” (though not the
    one in Toronto). PFT’s Mike Florio, a hockey buff, mentioned
    that same concept on Sunday night
    . I’m waiting to hear back from the league
    on the fumble by Jennings that was twice ruled down by contact, but Fox’s
    Mike Pereira agreed it should’ve been ruled a fumble. Bad job
    by Leavy and the replay official there. It’s clear they thought Jennings’ calf
    was down before the ball started to move but that’s not the way I saw it. There
    has to be a way to make these rulings more consistent and accurate. To me, if
    there’s a way to bump this up the chain of command to a more centralized
    decision-maker, I’m all for it.

    DE Jason Pierre-Paul badly wanted a holding call on Packers
    LT Chad Clifton on a second-and-9 late in the second quarter.
    Of all the holding calls the players and coaches were begging for, that one
    brought with it the best case because Clifton prevented him from working back to
    the line of scrimmage after getting a good push upfield. Still, he was
    complaining about it far too long. After the next play, in fact.

    The other holding complaint that had some juice to it was when Tuck got
    tackled by Bulaga on the next-to-last play of the third quarter.

    I know the Packers wanted the wind and that’s why they deferred after winning
    the opening toss. I’m not second guessing that decision at all. I just wonder if
    this game was played over again today, would they decide to put their offense on
    the field first? That long Giants drive to open the game, even though it only
    netted a field goal, did exactly what they wanted it to do: play keep-away from
    Rodgers & Co.

    Pereira tweeted the spot on RB D.J. Ware’s run on
    third-and-2 after Umenyiora’s strip sack was a good
    . I don’t know what angle he saw but I’ve watched the broadcast view a
    few times now and Ware certainly doesn’t look a half-yard short of the stick. I
    mean, he might be short by inches but I don’t see it from the high sideline
    view, which didn’t show the ball because it was obstructed by Ware’s body. Maybe
    Pereira had a different angle in the studio. In any event, that was a pretty
    powerful run by Ware to spin off Bishop and even come close to the stick. It was
    reminiscent to a run by Jacobs against Atlanta to pick up a first down.

    One good call by the officials was when they didn’t flag CB Charles
    for pass interference when he jammed Beckum in the fourth
    quarter. It looked like the contact happened before the ball left Manning’s
    hand. And that’s after I slowed it down to watch it. They got it correct

    * * * *


    I ran out of room in Boley’s game ball so I’ll tackle it here because there’s
    an interesting moment right before his sack on fourth-and-5 that was pretty much
    the defensive play of the game. Tuck is standing and signaling to Umenyiora.
    They were obviously working out some kind of twist there. But then, Tuck says
    what sounded like, “(Forget) it,” and puts his hand in the dirt. From the look
    of things, Umenyiora might’ve missed Tuck nixing whatever they were planning
    because he tries to loop into the “A” gap only to see Tuck has rushed there. If
    Boley doesn’t get his outstanding rush from the outside to get around RB
    Brandon Saine and get a hand on Rodgers, there’s a big hole for
    Rodgers to step up, escape and either run for the first down or buy time to
    throw to the crossing WR Jordy Nelson. But Boley got there and
    held on for a big, big play.

    Joe Buck and Aikman were trying to figure out why the Giants
    called a timeout before their third play from scrimmage. They guessed there was
    a substitution issue and that’s exactly what it was. You hate to burn a timeout
    that early, but the Giants had an extra guy on the field. Bradshaw was in the
    slot in a six-receiver set. As you know, that’s impossible because five linemen
    plus a quarterback and six receivers is too many on the field. The Packers
    wanted a 12-men-in-the-huddle penalty and I’m not sure how the Giants weren’t
    nailed for that one because you can’t see the huddle on the broadcast. Had they
    been backed up another 5 yards there, maybe they don’t convert the third-down
    pass to Manningham (It went for 19 yards, but who knows how the extra 5 would’ve
    changed the calls on both sides) and that important long first drive doesn’t

    Speaking of Aikman and Fox, good job by them immediately identifying
    Umenyiora had saved a TD with his strip sack because Jennings had gotten past
    Ross. Aikman saw it right away and they had the replay ready when they came back
    from break. Now, one I thought they might’ve missed while watching live was a
    second-and-7 check-down pass from Rodgers to Starks. I would’ve loved to see a
    wide-angle replay there because Driver
    had gotten past Rolle
    and appeared to be open enough for Rodgers to take a
    shot. It seems like he’s looking in Driver’s general direction but never takes
    the shot. Live, I thought it was there for the taking.

    One more note about the touchdown Umenyiora saved: that was probably set up
    in the Packers’ minds by Ross’ breaking on an earlier pass that could’ve been a
    pick six had Rodgers not delivered it close to the sideline. The coaches
    probably thought Ross couldn’t wait to get his hands on another one. If so, they
    timed the double-move call perfectly. The only problem was Clifton and
    LG T.J. Lang didn’t stop Umenyiora on a swim move between

    The Packers have a go-to play for them they tried in the third quarter on a
    deep ball to Nelson Ross knocked down. It’s a fake stretch play to the right and
    a throwback deep to the left. The Giants obviously scouted that one well.

    Packers S Morgan Burnett had a pretty good game. He got his
    hand on a pass for TE Jake Ballard in the end zone and also
    made a very nice tackle on Jacobs in the fourth quarter. Burnett avoided a stiff
    arm and got to Jacobs’ body. That’s not easy to do.

    I thought Bradshaw was going to rip apart at the knees when Matthews chased
    him down from behind on first-and-goal two plays after Kuhn fumbled. Good hustle
    by Matthews, as always, and good flexibility on Bradshaw’s part because that
    could’ve been ugly. It looked like he might’ve slid a bid on the turf, which
    surely helped.

    I didn’t see when Kuhn got injured while watching live. Now I see when. And
    now I see why. LB Mathias Kiwanuka absolutely crushed him while
    Kuhn tried to stick him on a lead block. That wasn’t what caused the injury. The
    problem was Crabtree threw Rolle down into his legs. But the only reason he was
    in position for that to happen was Kiwanuka blasted him backward. Another
    outstanding physical play for him that didn’t make the stat sheet.

    Ross said a big reason for the secondary’s improved play of late is “the
    after-work studying is really helping us a lot. About a month and a half now at
    my house, Kenny’s house and Corey’s house.” They used to do one night of group
    studying a week. “Now, we do like three nights,” Ross said.

    Snee said Packers DL B.J. Raji came up to him to talk about Raji’s saying the
    Giants’ offensive line isn’t as “physical” as other units. “First of all, me and
    B.J. are cool and he immediately said at the beginning of the game that was
    blown out of proportion. And I believe him,” Snee said. “He’s a heckuva player.
    They’ve got a bunch of big bodies inside. It was tough sledding for the running

    The Packers should’ve seen the Giants’ draw play when they called a timeout
    right before Bradshaw’s run and realized the Giants were content with running
    the ball and heading into halftime with a 3-point lead. In fact, they did the
    Giants a favor by calling that timeout. You’d have to figure the draw up the
    middle wasn’t going to allow Bradshaw to get out of bounds, even though
    LT David Diehl said the linemen thought they were going to gash
    the Packers’ three-man front there. On the next play, Green Bay was still in a
    three-down front and Bradshaw was able to work his magic.

    And finally, at the end of Bradshaw’s 23-yard run, who was waiting with open
    arms on the sideline for him? Mitch Petrus. No
    apology necessary this time.
    Oh, and I finally got to Petrus to ask him what
    the heck he was saying and why in that clip from the Falcons game. He insists he
    was talking about a play from much later in the game and not the safety. Plus,
    he said he was out of breath at the time so that’s why he was tough to
    understand. … Sigh … I liked our version so much better."


    Tom Coughlin, like basically everyone who has seen the replays, doesn't have
    an explanation for two calls officials made that ultimately allowed the Packers
    to go on to score their two touchdowns in the Giants'
    37-20 win Sunday

    First there was the apparent fumble by Packers wide receiver Greg Jennings.
    Giants safety Deon Grant stripped Jennings late in the first quarter and replays
    showed that Jennings' knee was not down prior to the ball coming out as ruled on
    the field. Yet, even after going under the hood when Coughlin challenged the
    play, referee Bill Leavy did not overturn the ruling.

    Five plays later, Aaron Rodgers connected with fullback John Kuhn for an
    eight-yard touchdown, which tied the game at 10 early in the second quarter.

    When asked about the play, Coughlin said he "doubts" he will receive an
    explanation from the league.

    "There is, but I won't get into it," Coughlin said when asked if he saw
    something on film that made the ruling any clearer one way or another, an
    indication that he didn't agree with the call.

    NFL spokesman Greg Aiello, citing Rule 7, Section 2, Article 1 of the NFL
    Rule Book, told the Star-Ledger in an email that Leavy ruled Jennings' calf to
    be down on the play and didn't need his knee to be down.

    "Referee Bill Leavy conducted the instant replay video review and determined
    that there was no indisputable visual evidence to warrant reversing the on-field
    ruling of down by contact." Aiello wrote. "As a result, the ruling on the field

    On 3rd-and-10 with 6:28 remaining in the game and the Giants leading 30-13,
    Rodgers' pass to Donald Driver fell incomplete setting up an all-or-nothing
    fourth down. But Rodgers was hit by Osi Umenyiora as he released the pass and an
    official threw a flag, ruling the hit to be helmet-to-helmet.

    Once again, replays prove otherwise. The Packers capitalized scoring a
    touchdown six plays later when Rodgers found Driver for a 16-yard score to give
    them some semblance of life.

    When asked why he thought the penalty was called Coughlin said, "I have no

    What he does know is that it was a legal play and one that he won't
    discourage his players from doing.

    "Aggressive football play," Coughlin described it as. "The quarterback is
    following through as he releases the ball. The hit is from the side, there’s not
    helmet involved, it’s from shoulders to waist. We’ll coach that one


    Excerpt: "
    The Giants defense has been a
    stubborn unit this postseason, conceding 22 points in two games. Sunday, the
    unit smothered the NFL's No. 3 offense this season
    , by means of forcing
    timely turnovers and consistent pressure on Aaron Rodgers
    , the Green Bay
    Packers quarterback.'s
    Peter King wrote today
    that the stubbornness of former Giants general
    manager Ernie Accorsi benefited the Giants once again Sunday.

    In the trade that landed Eli Manning with the Giants, on draft day in 2004,
    the San Diego Chargers would not relinquish the soon-to-be Giants quarterback
    without acquiring defensive end Osi Umenyiora as part of the compensation, King

    Accorsi refused to yield, even though Umenyiora was a little known player at
    the time. The dividends were once again felt by the Giants Sunday, when
    Umenyiora's strip-sack of Rodgers (the 32nd forced fumble of Umenyiora's career)
    proved a pivotal moment in the second half of the Giants' victory." Read more...


    Excerpt: "
    The Giants face the San Francisco
    49ers Sunday in the NFC Championship Game with a trip to the Super Bowl at
    stake. The following pieces tell the 49ers' side of the story leading up the

    Lynch, San Francisco Chronicle
    : Unlike the Giants, who have won four road
    playoff games under Tom Coughlin, the 49ers have historically struggled --
    they're only won twice on the road in the postseason since 1957. Luckily, with
    the Giants' victory, the 49ers will play Sunday at Candlestick Park, where they
    are 18-4 since 1980, including Saturday's victory over the New Orleans

    Tafur, Chronicle
    : 49ers cornerback Carlos Rogers, who intercepted Eli
    Manning twice when the teams met in San Francisco on Nov. 13, watched Sunday's
    game between the Giants and Green Bay Packers
    in bed. "We got the turnovers
    and were able to get to Eli,” Rogers told the Chronicle of the Nov. 13 game.
    “The team has gotten better since we played them. They’re familiar with us just
    as we’re familiar with them.”



    "When 49ers tight end Vernon Davis
    was watching the Giants-Packers game on Sunday, he admitted he “prayed” for the
    Giants to win, so the NFC Championship Game would be played in San

    His prayers were obviously answered. But Antrel Rolle warned
    Davis that might not be a good thing for his team.

    “They better be careful what they ask for,” Rolle said. “Because their wish
    has been granted.”

    During his weekly paid spot on WFAN Rolle said, “I can only hope he was
    saying that because they wanted to get a home game,” and that did appear to be
    the case. Davis wasn’t the only one praying for a specific outcome last weekend
    either. On Monday, Giants receiver Victor Cruz admitted
    that San Francisco’s win over the New Orleans Saints “definitely works out in
    our favor a little bit.”

    The Giants narrowly lost to the 49ers in San Francisco, 27-20, on Nov. 13.
    Two weeks later they got hammered in New Orleans, 49-24.

    Not that Rolle really cared who the Giants would face — as long as they were
    playing in the NFC title game.

    “I don’t give a damn who we’re playing, man,” Rolle said. “That’s my take.
    I’ll take any opponent, any given day. That’s my attitude. If someone has a
    problem with it, oh well. But that’s how I am. That’s how I was raised. I don’t
    shy away from any opponent. My heart doesn’t pump any Kool-Aid, only blood. I’m
    ready for whenever, however, whatever, however it gets to me. I’m ready for

    So, since Rolle said “We can’t be beat” on Monday, who does he want the
    Giants to face in Super Bowl XLVI
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2

    Thanks Roanoke!


    • #3

      [quote user="Captain Chaos"]Thanks Roanoke![/quote]

      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1


      • #4
        Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012 - 7:40 A.M.

        Thanks for the news RF!


        • #5
          Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012 - 7:40 A.M.

          Thanks Ro....

          one more game game at a time....

          ALL IN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
          You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch


          • #6
            Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012 - 7:40 A.M.

            Thanks RF. The GIANTS are coming.......


            • #7
              Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012 - 7:40 A.M.

              [quote user="ashleymarie"]Thanks RF. The GIANTS are coming.......[/quote]

              And they are coming to WIN!
              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1


              • #8
                Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012 - 7:40 A.M.

                [quote user="GameTime"]

                Thanks Ro....

                one more game game at a time....

                ALL IN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


                That's the spirit. We have the mental and emotional part of this IN PLACE. Execution is the key now.
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1


                • #9
                  Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012 - 7:40 A.M.

                  [quote user="nygsb42champs"]Thanks for the news RF![/quote]

                  “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1


                  • #10
                    Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012 - 7:40 A.M.

                    NYG will not be denied. Let's put a 4th Lombardi in that Legacy Room.


                    • #11
                      Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012 - 6:26 A.M.

                      thanks Roanoke! [B]

                      Giants looking good!



                      • #12
                        Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012 - 7:40 A.M.

                        [quote user="lttaylor56"]NYG will not be denied. Let's put a 4th Lombardi in that Legacy Room.[/quote]

                        Yes so the jets will have another award to cover for their home games lol
                        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1


                        • #13
                          Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012 - 6:26 A.M.

                          [quote user="BigBlue1971"]

                          thanks Roanoke! [B]

                          Giants looking good!


                          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1


                          • #14
                            Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012 - 6:26 A.M.

                            Thanks as always RF! [B]


                            • #15
                              Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012 - 6:26 A.M.

                              [quote user="NY_Eli"]Thanks as always RF! [B][/quote]

                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1