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  • Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ew-york-giants

    a great look at streak, switch, go, and choice routes

    for those who refuse to understand how this actually works



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    Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

    bump for a great article

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      Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

      [quote user="YATittle1962"]http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ew-york-giants

      a great look at streak, switch, go, and choice routes

      for those who refuse to understand how this actually works


      [/quote]

      wow excellent read. I love how if the deep ball is covered it gives the WR and the QB options to get a completion. Excellent article.

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        Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

        thanks!

        the arguments Ive been in on this forum about whether the giants still use the run and shoot principles

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          Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

          [quote user="slipknottin"]thanks!

          the arguments Ive been in on this forum about whether the giants still use the run and shoot principles[/quote]

          ive been in countless arguments about this route system on this forum .....mostly with folks who haven't a clue of how it works

          hopefully this could shed some light with the in article links that go into great detail

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            Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

            Good read! I wasn't familiar with that site. Is that quality of information typical of what you find there?

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              [quote user="chasjay"]Good read! I wasn't familiar with that site. Is that quality of information typical of what you find there?
              [/quote]

              my first experience with them ....maybe others will know

              well written article though

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                Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

                Ive never read it either, but they have Bill Barnwell as a writer too.

                http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...playoff-action

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                  Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

                  [quote user="slipknottin"]Ive never read it either, but they have Bill Barnwell as a writer too.

                  http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...playoff-action[/quote]

                  seems to be a quality source

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                    Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense



                    [quote user="YATittle1962"]http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ew-york-giants

                    a great look at streak, switch, go, and choice routes

                    for those who refuse to understand how this actually works


                    [/quote]




                    Fantastic read. It really brings home why we have such a balanced attack.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

                      Wow. Great article. I had a very vague understanding of the route concepts and that article helped make it a little clearer.

                      The page from the playbook was very cool to see.

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                        Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

                        good stuff, yeah modern passing offenses are light years from us as kids drawing down and in and down and out routes in the dirt

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                          Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

                          [quote user="YATittle1962"]http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ew-york-giants

                          a great look at streak, switch, go, and choice routes

                          for those who refuse to understand how this actually works


                          [/quote]

                          GREAT READ! thanks for posting it.

                          gilbride actually talkes a little about it in his thursday press conference. 9:50, http://www.giants.com/media-vault/vi...8-f797099c201e

                          and troy brown of the patriots on espn radio this morning talked about why ochocinco is having a difficult time grasping the patriots offense. "he doesn't know what to do in their (site adjustment) offense.

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                            Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

                            that's the difference in the giants passing attack vs. say the packers with their hybrid west coast offense or the chargers with their hybrid air coryell.

                            i remember neil odonell two ints in the SB and wondered how that could happen. or more recently eli 3+ int games and this explains a lot. if the qb is doing all the studying and wr/te are not, it can look really bad offensively especially for the qb.

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                              Re: Victor Cruz, and shades of the Run and Shoot Offense

                              [quote user="NYtoSanDiego"]that's the difference in the giants passing attack vs. say the packers with their hybrid west coast offense or the chargers with their hybrid air coryell.

                              i remember neil odonell two ints in the SB and wondered how that could happen. or more recently eli 3+ int games and this explains a lot. if the qb is doing all the studying and wr/te are not, it can look really bad offensively especially for the qb.[/quote]

                              for sure

                              and there is always that grey area of....who was wrong?

                              its all about the receiver being able to read the field like a QB

                              which is extremely difficult to do while running a route and takes time to develop

                              we have some good route runners.....but I think soely in terms of the complexity of the choice route......Cruz has grasped this theory a bit quicker than most who have gone through it as far as his decisions based on what he thinks Eli sees

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