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  • Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

    I remember when ap first came into the league, and from the moment he started playing good, i knew he was better than ladaminian tomlinson. However, because of LT's body of work, my friend didnt believe me and thought i was crazy for saying so.

    So without looking at body of work., Who do you think is a better route runner between steve smith and cruz? I know for a fact smith didn't get this much separation when covered 1v1. Victor makes guys look silly 1v1, and i believe as long as he stays healthy, he will be one of the best slot guys in the nfl for years to come.


    The video below is a perfect example of how he makes defenders look when they cover him 1v1. He has been doing it all season.

    http://www.giants.com/media-vault/vi...0-a66bb3c99fe9


    I dont even think revis can cover him 1v1 in the slot. Time will tell.
    Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

    ~Big Mike~


  • #2
    Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

    Not close right now. Route running includes running the right route. Cruz isn't there yet. He is more explosive than Smith for sure and in the long run may prove to be better overall.
    No one remembers who came in second.

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    • #3
      Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

      Not really, but he is better than Steve Smith at making miraculous, game-saving plays.

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      • #4
        Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

        Smith was like a top 5 route runner lol. Cruz is nowhere near that. The only one who runs routes like Smith is probably Welker.

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        • #5
          Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

          [quote user="Overdrive92"]Not really, but he is better than Steve Smith at making miraculous, game-saving plays.[/quote]

          I have a feeling about this guy, and my intuition is usually right about players. I knew Adrianpeterson was going to be good the moment i saw him first run the ball. Same goes for kenny britt (even though hes injured) and shady mecoy. they all turned out pretty good, and i have a feeling cruz will too. watch.
          Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

          ~Big Mike~

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          • #6
            Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

            [quote user="jomo"]Not close right now. Route running includes running the right route. Cruz isn't there yet. He is more explosive than Smith for sure and in the long run may prove to be better overall.[/quote] Its funny because at UMASS, Cruz wasen't really the explosive WR, but more the Slippery, route runner, who can beat u deep on occasion more then consistently, and also solid hands.. I think hes basically playing very idenctically to the type of WR he was for UMASS, and his route running is starting to show, with his EXP level getting up there.. Hes certainly showing the slipperieness and hands that i became accustomed to reading and seeing why he was at UMASS...

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            • #7
              Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

              [quote user="Marvelousmik"][quote user="Overdrive92"]Not really, but he is better than Steve Smith at making miraculous, game-saving plays.[/quote]

              I have a feeling about this guy, and my intuition is usually right about players. I knew Adrianpeterson was going to be good the moment i saw him first run the ball. Same goes for kenny britt (even though hes injured) and shady mecoy. they all turned out pretty good, and i have a feeling cruz will too. watch.
              [/quote] I'm with you on Kenny Britt.. I was called his Agent by most on here..lol Of course i ignored his Charechter concerns, but his skill is ridiculous.. Also, i called Victor Cruz the second we signed em as a UDF, being more familiar then most on here about him because UMASS is 45minutes from my front door.. I actually wrote a thread the day of the JETS preseason game titled "cruz breaks out in big way tonight"..lol Cruz is good, and u could see it at UMASS, that he had a solid build, good hands and the biggest question was if he was gonna be given a actual chance in the NFL or not, which alot of times dosen't happen for guys like him..

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              • #8
                Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

                [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Marvelousmik"][quote user="Overdrive92"]Not really, but he is better than Steve Smith at making miraculous, game-saving plays.[/quote]

                I have a feeling about this guy, and my intuition is usually right about players. I knew Adrianpeterson was going to be good the moment i saw him first run the ball. Same goes for kenny britt (even though hes injured) and shady mecoy. they all turned out pretty good, and i have a feeling cruz will too. watch.
                [/quote] I'm with you on Kenny Britt.. I was called his Agent by most on here..lol Of course i ignored his Charechter concerns, but his skill is ridiculous.. Also, i called Victor Cruz the second we signed em as a UDF, being more familiar then most on here about him because UMASS is 45minutes from my front door.. I actually wrote a thread the day of the JETS preseason game titled "cruz breaks out in big way tonight"..lol Cruz is good, and u could see it at UMASS, that he had a solid build, good hands and the biggest question was if he was gonna be given a actual chance in the NFL or not, which alot of times dosen't happen for guys like him..
                [/quote]

                As soon as i saw mecoy play a few games, i knew he was better than brian westbrook. I am not one to look at body of work all that much. Right now i know cruz is better than steve smith. im going to bookmark this thread for obvious reasons. []
                Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

                ~Big Mike~

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                • #9
                  Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

                  Not at this point. Steve Smith is a polished elite slot receiver when healthy. Cruz is still raw and makes mistakes but the potential is definitely there. Give him some time.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

                    I think victor cruz is better then Steve Smith now. Cruz is pretty nuts in terms of breakout explosive games, he already has multiple 100 yard games.
                    Just remember Kevin Love makes more money then OBJ, and OBJ also dunks better.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

                      steve smith was one of the best route runners and slot receivers in the NFL.

                      however, he must've been the WORST wide receiver in the NFL when it came to YAC lol. i swear he'd get hit or fall down after every single catch. it was like it was just automatic for him not to gain any more yards. he also wasnt all that explosive on the outside or as a deep threat.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

                        I also think cruz is better than ss right now,with time he will be elite, and in my mind should be in that 2nd wr spot very soon.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

                          [quote user="Marvelousmik"][quote user="Overdrive92"]Not really, but he is better than Steve Smith at making miraculous, game-saving plays.[/quote]

                          I have a feeling about this guy, and my intuition is usually right about players. I knew Adrianpeterson was going to be good the moment i saw him first run the ball. Same goes for kenny britt (even though hes injured) and shady mecoy. they all turned out pretty good, and i have a feeling cruz will too. watch.
                          [/quote]

                          I'm with you there. I think he can become much better than Smith overall, because he's definitely got more speed and quickness, also makes just absolutely ridiculous plays fairly consistently. He says he ran between a 10-11 second 100 m dash in college track consistently, which is really goddamn fast. I mean olympians run sub 10's and 10-11 obviously isn't far off. I'm not sure what his 40 was at the combine which is what most people would connect to football, but he's fast. So he's got that on Smith, he just needs another year or two to perfect his route running, which even right now isn't that bad. I mean I know he wasn't going up against a real great corner or anything on that TD against Miami, but it was well done getting the DB turned around and knowing when to cut inside to create that seperation. So he is catching on, just has to become more consistent.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

                            [quote user="Marvelousmik"]I remember when ap first came into the league, and from the moment he started playing good, i knew he was better than ladaminian tomlinson. However, because of LT's body of work, my friend didnt believe me and thought i was crazy for saying so.

                            So without looking at body of work., Who do you think is a better route runner between steve smith and cruz? I know for a fact smith didn't get this much separation when covered 1v1. Victor makes guys look silly 1v1, and i believe as long as he stays healthy, he will be one of the best slot guys in the nfl for years to come.


                            The video below is a perfect example of how he makes defenders look when they cover him 1v1. He has been doing it all season.

                            http://www.giants.com/media-vault/vi...0-a66bb3c99fe9


                            I dont even think revis can cover him 1v1 in the slot. Time will tell.
                            [/quote]

                            No. Although he can catch the ball down field, something Smith wishes he was capable of doing.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Is victor cruz a better route runner than steve smith?

                              Steve Smith was a great possession receiver. Let's not forget that. (It's unfair to compare him to Welker who is one of the best ever in that role.) Cruz has a ways to go before he gets to where Smith was two seasons ago. He might. And I don't think Smith will ever be the same.

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