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  • Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?

    Who cares anymore? It was years ago. If they beat us it's because they are the better team.

  • #2
    Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?

    I hate the Pats as much as anyone, but I agree, it's dumb. It's unlikely to have had that much of an impact anyway.

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    • #3
      Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?



      [quote user="AllTuckedUp"]Who cares anymore? It was years ago. If they beat us it's because they are the better team.[/quote]




      No they are discussing something that happend at the end of the Raven/Pats game.. thats why it was brought back up.




      On ESPN First Take right now

      Football has been very, very good to us.
      After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
      But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

      # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

      1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
      2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
      3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
      4-New York Giants!!!
      5-NE
      Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

      ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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      • #4
        Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?



        Its fun...



















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        • #5
          Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?

          We'll stop when they stop cheating.

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          • #6
            Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?



            [quote user="jhamburg"]I hate the Pats as much as anyone, but I agree, it's dumb. It's unlikely to have had that much of an impact anyway.[/quote]




            +1. I don't think they won 3 SBs because of cheating. The year they were caught cheating ('07) was the year they went 18-0, and that was at the beginning of the season. They were still undefeated when the Giants played a game for the ages and beat them.




            Those were great NE teams. They've had some rougher patches over the past few years, but that's because BB decided (correctly IMO) to gut the defense and rebuild before the entire team got too old at the same time. Genius move IMO.

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            • #7
              Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnqQhUdXgvI

              South Park on the Patriots cheating.

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              • #8
                Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?

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                • #9
                  Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?

                  cheating is cheating. they should have asterisks by each championship notating their cheating ways.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?

                    [quote user="THE_New_York_Giants"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnqQhUdXgvI

                    South Park on the Patriots cheating.
                    [/quote]
                    It isn't cheating if you misinterpret the rules

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                    • #11
                      Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?

                      The cheating actually never stopped.

                      Videotaping scandal




                      On November 27, in an incident reminiscient of the New England Patriots' videotaping controversy of 2007, The Denver Post reported the Broncos were under investigation from the NFL,
                      after it was reported that Steve Scarnecchia, the team's director of
                      video operations hired by McDaniels in 2009, videotaped a San Francisco 49ers' walkthrough practice, during the teams' Week 8 game at Wembley Stadium in London, England.[12]




                      The same day, the NFL fined the Broncos and McDaniels $50,000 each,
                      and Scarnecchia was fired as a result of the incident. Scarnecchia told
                      NFL investigators he acted alone and "knew it was wrong" to tape the
                      walkthrough practice, after the rest of the Broncos' staff had left the
                      stadium. Scarnecchia later presented McDaniels with the six-minute
                      video, but McDaniels declined to view it, and it was not shown to any
                      other Broncos staff member, and therefore the NFL determined the Broncos
                      had not gained a competitive advantage from it. An anonymous source
                      alerted the Broncos on November 8, who conducted an internal
                      investigation before alerting the NFL. NFL Security then began its
                      investigation, which included a forensic analysis of the computer from
                      which the recording was later deleted by Scarnecchia.[13] Both the NFL and the Broncos determined that McDaniels knew nothing about the incident.[14]




                      However, the NFL fined McDaniels due to the fact that he did not
                      immediately report the incident to the league office, as required by
                      policy. The NFL also fined the Broncos, as "clubs are ultimately
                      accountable for the conduct of their employees."[13]




                      McDaniels later issued the following statement:[15]





                      "I apologize for not promptly reporting the improper conduct of our
                      video director before our game against the 49ers in London. The actions
                      of this individual are in no way representative of the values and
                      integrity held by myself, our players and coaches, and the entire Denver
                      Broncos organization. I understand the punishment from the National
                      Football League and support its commitment to the integrity of the game.
                      We have addressed the situation internally to assure that nothing like
                      this happens again."





                      According to The Denver Post,
                      the videotaping incident was a major factor in McDaniels' firing a week
                      later; while the Broncos did not deem it something that merited being
                      fired for cause, they considered his failure to report the incident
                      "unforgivable."[14]

                      Return to New England Patriots




                      Following the 2011 season, the Rams fired Spagnuolo as head coach.
                      While McDaniels was under contract for the 2012 season, the Rams
                      informed him that they would not hold him to his contract, and would
                      allow him to leave.[16] The Patriots then hired McDaniels to act as an offensive assistant coach during their 201112 playoff run, and to replace Bill O'Brien
                      as offensive coordinator for the 2012 season. O'Brien will leave the
                      Patriots after the 2011 season concludes to become head coach at Penn State, but will maintain playcalling duties until he leaves.[





                      Now, the scoreboard "malfunctions" with the downs and causes confusion among the players and kicker. Cundiff had to sprint out there and rush his kick. Belichick even said he saw mass confusion on the sideline and decided not to ice the kicker. Just a coincidence? I think not. Belichick said "HEY MCDANIELS! BRING ALL YOU TAPES TO THE PATRIOTS."

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                      • #12
                        Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?

                        Anyone who thinks the Patriots stopped cheating, please report to the Brooklyn Bridge, with cash.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?

                          [quote user="AllTuckedUp"]Who cares anymore? It was years ago. If they beat us it's because they are the better team.[/quote]

                          See! This is what I mean by imposters coming around to spread the bad mojo. What is your username on the Patriots fan forum? Huh?

                          Spygate is real. It happened and that was just the time they got caught. Why would you even care and what is this "if they beat us crap"? Kick Rocks!!

                          They will not beat us because they can't beat us. I know that you probably wish that they could. But the only reason the Giants weren't 14-2 is because of the injuries and the lack of consistency that poor performance can bring as a result. We have a healthy Pro bowl caliber Defense. Our whole secondary are 1st and 2nd round picks. Our front four just matched play for play with probably the youngest baddest Defense to not be in the Superbowl. Get you facts straight. Cruz,Nicks,Manningham and even Hynoski now are you kidding me What does Belicheck have besides Brady and two talented TE's Welker can be negated with hard hits, I've seen him knocked out before. Puleeze. I'm not buying what your selling. Notice that I hadn't even mentioned Eli Manning who beat the Packers in Lambeau in the playoffs, AGAIN, San Frans vaunted D couldn't even sniff his breaking point. He got knocked down about 17 times and I couldn't see his breaking point not even on the horizon. Ahmad Bradshaw is a Beast and runs like he's as big as Brandon Jacobs. And now our special tams is focused like a laser. You need to go back over to the Jets forum and stop it. Jet fans never truly root for us when they are down but we root for them when we are. I smell you Jet fan.

                          (Giants 31-- Patriots17)

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                          • #14
                            Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?

                            [quote user="ikebibby91"][quote user="AllTuckedUp"]Who cares anymore? It was years ago. If they beat us it's because they are the better team.[/quote]

                            See! This is what I mean by imposters coming around to spread the bad mojo. What is your username on the Patriots fan forum? Huh?

                            Spygate is real. It happened and that was just the time they got caught. Why would you even care and what is this "if they beat us crap"? Kick Rocks!!

                            They will not beat us because they can't beat us. I know that you probably wish that they could. But the only reason the Giants weren't 14-2 is because of the injuries and the lack of consistency that poor performance can bring as a result. We have a healthy Pro bowl caliber Defense. Our whole secondary are 1st and 2nd round picks. Our front four just matched play for play with probably the youngest baddest Defense to not be in the Superbowl. Get you facts straight. Cruz,Nicks,Manningham and even Hynoski now are you kidding me What does Belicheck have besides Brady and two talented TE's Welker can be negated with hard hits, I've seen him knocked out before. Puleeze. I'm not buying what your selling. Notice that I hadn't even mentioned Eli Manning who beat the Packers in Lambeau in the playoffs, AGAIN, San Frans vaunted D couldn't even sniff his breaking point. He got knocked down about 17 times and I couldn't see his breaking point not even on the horizon. Ahmad Bradshaw is a Beast and runs like he's as big as Brandon Jacobs. And now our special tams is focused like a laser. You need to go back over to the Jets forum and stop it. Jet fans never truly root for us when they are down but we root for them when we are. I smell you Jet fan.

                            (Giants 31-- Patriots17)

                            [/quote]

                            I have almost 400 posts and have been here since 2009. You're an idiot. Until they're caught cheating again let it go.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Can we stop with the whole "the Patriots are cheaters" please?

                              [quote user="AllTuckedUp"][quote user="ikebibby91"][quote user="AllTuckedUp"]Who cares anymore? It was years ago. If they beat us it's because they are the better team.[/quote]

                              See! This is what I mean by imposters coming around to spread the bad mojo. What is your username on the Patriots fan forum? Huh?

                              Spygate is real. It happened and that was just the time they got caught. Why would you even care and what is this "if they beat us crap"? Kick Rocks!!

                              They will not beat us because they can't beat us. I know that you probably wish that they could. But the only reason the Giants weren't 14-2 is because of the injuries and the lack of consistency that poor performance can bring as a result. We have a healthy Pro bowl caliber Defense. Our whole secondary are 1st and 2nd round picks. Our front four just matched play for play with probably the youngest baddest Defense to not be in the Superbowl. Get you facts straight. Cruz,Nicks,Manningham and even Hynoski now are you kidding me What does Belicheck have besides Brady and two talented TE's Welker can be negated with hard hits, I've seen him knocked out before. Puleeze. I'm not buying what your selling. Notice that I hadn't even mentioned Eli Manning who beat the Packers in Lambeau in the playoffs, AGAIN, San Frans vaunted D couldn't even sniff his breaking point. He got knocked down about 17 times and I couldn't see his breaking point not even on the horizon. Ahmad Bradshaw is a Beast and runs like he's as big as Brandon Jacobs. And now our special tams is focused like a laser. You need to go back over to the Jets forum and stop it. Jet fans never truly root for us when they are down but we root for them when we are. I smell you Jet fan.

                              (Giants 31-- Patriots17)

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                              I have almost 400 posts and have been here since 2009. You're an idiot. Until they're caught cheating again let it go.[/quote]

                              This is actually what everyone is talking about, for those of us with internets

                              The last 3 plays in the Baltimore game the scoreboard was one down behind, and there is speculation as to whether or not it was on purpose

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