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  • Does Vegas know something?

    I'll be the first to admit I do not know much about how Vegas works as far as betting (buying points, etc.)
    I don't see how in the world the Giants would not be favored in this game. After hearing someone on the radio this morning discuss betting he was talking about how Vegas put the Giants as the underdog on purpose knowing all the money would flow in on the Giants. He said that scared him about this game like Vegas knows the Pats are going to win this game. I've been watching football for 30 years and I would be devastated to find out this game is fixed. Anyone have any insight to how Vegas comes up with their numbers??

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    [quote user="Bigbluefan1974"]I'll be the first to admit I do not know much about how Vegas works as far as betting (buying points, etc.)
    I don't see how in the world the Giants would not be favored in this game.* After hearing someone on the radio this morning discuss betting he was talking about how Vegas put the Giants as the underdog on purpose knowing all the money would flow in on the Giants. He said that scared him about this game like Vegas knows the Pats are going to win this game.* I've been watching football for 30 years and I would be devastated to find out this game is fixed.* Anyone have any insight to how Vegas comes up with their numbers??
    [/quote]

    Don't know anything about Vegas , but a "fixed" game implies that Giants would somehow throw the game or that possibly the officiating would have been paid off...either is unlikely...the Giants organization is one of the most respected in NFL,and with the recent outcry from the sports media questioning recent contraversial calls and the whole workd watching...doesn't seem possible to make such blatantly wrong calls without enormous consequences to the League.

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    • #3
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      Yea it's that there's still a bunch of people that are willing to lose money like jack rabbits. $5 million on the Patriots LMAO!

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        After seeing that ref's call in the Green Bay game, nothing would surprise me anymore!

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          Re: Does Vegas know something?

          [quote user="Bigbluefan1974"]I'll be the first to admit I do not know much about how Vegas works as far as betting (buying points, etc.)
          I don't see how in the world the Giants would not be favored in this game. After hearing someone on the radio this morning discuss betting he was talking about how Vegas put the Giants as the underdog on purpose knowing all the money would flow in on the Giants. He said that scared him about this game like Vegas knows the Pats are going to win this game. I've been watching football for 30 years and I would be devastated to find out this game is fixed. Anyone have any insight to how Vegas comes up with their numbers??
          [/quote]

          Are you kidding? NFL players are making millions of dollars. They aren't throwing the game. If a QB is making 5-10 million per year, how much would it take for him to "throw" the most important game in his career SUPER BOWL? You think someone is gonna throw him $50 million and Brady/Eli will ruin their legacy...... Vegas comes up with lines and futures by predictors with calculators. They said 30-1 odds for Giants to win the Super Bowl when the Giants got in the playoffs. Keep on underestimating the Giants.

          And I wasn't surprised at all that the Giants were 3 point underdogs.... Lets not forget the Giants opened 8.5 point underdogs vs the Packers.

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            [quote user="Bigbluefan1974"]After seeing that ref's call in the Green Bay game, nothing would surprise me anymore!
            [/quote]

            Agreed...my guess though...flat out hatred of the Giants would be more a motive then Vegas influencing bad calls.

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              I do find it odd considering the Giants played without Bradshaw and Nicks and still beat the Pats in Foxboro

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                [quote user="Razur"][quote user="Bigbluefan1974"]After seeing that ref's call in the Green Bay game, nothing would surprise me anymore!
                [/quote]

                Agreed...my guess though...flat out hatred of the Giants would be more a motive then Vegas influencing bad calls.[/quote]

                It does seem like there is a lot of hatred towards the Giants in the
                media. I don't understand that. The Giants are one of the more storied
                and classy organizations in the league not to mention were owned by W.
                Mara who had the utmost respect around the league. Don't get the hate.
                Anyway, I can't wait for the game. Hope the Giants take it to em'!!

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                  Re: Does Vegas know something?

                  [quote user="Bigbluefan1974"][quote user="Razur"][quote user="Bigbluefan1974"]After seeing that ref's call in the Green Bay game, nothing would surprise me anymore!
                  [/quote]

                  Agreed...my guess though...flat out hatred of the Giants would be more a motive then Vegas influencing bad calls.[/quote]

                  It does seem like there is a lot of hatred towards the Giants in the
                  media.* I don't understand that.* The Giants are one of the more storied
                  and classy organizations in the league not to mention were owned by W.
                  Mara who had the utmost respect around the league.* Don't get the hate.*
                  Anyway, I can't wait for the game.* Hope the Giants take it to em'!!
                  [/quote]

                  RIGHT ON...GO GIANTS GO BLUE!!!

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                    Re: Does Vegas know something?

                    [quote user="bflo23"][quote user="Bigbluefan1974"]I'll be the first to admit I do not know much about how Vegas works as far as betting (buying points, etc.)
                    I don't see how in the world the Giants would not be favored in this game. After hearing someone on the radio this morning discuss betting he was talking about how Vegas put the Giants as the underdog on purpose knowing all the money would flow in on the Giants. He said that scared him about this game like Vegas knows the Pats are going to win this game. I've been watching football for 30 years and I would be devastated to find out this game is fixed. Anyone have any insight to how Vegas comes up with their numbers??
                    [/quote]

                    Are you kidding? NFL players are making millions of dollars. They aren't throwing the game. If a QB is making 5-10 million per year, how much would it take for him to "throw" the most important game in his career SUPER BOWL? You think someone is gonna throw him $50 million and Brady/Eli will ruin their legacy...... Vegas comes up with lines and futures by predictors with calculators. They said 30-1 odds for Giants to win the Super Bowl when the Giants got in the playoffs. Keep on underestimating the Giants.
                    And I wasn't surprised at all that the Giants were 3 point underdogs.... Lets not forget the Giants opened 8.5 point underdogs vs the Packers.
                    [/quote]


                    Not every player is making millions of dollars
                    first of all. Second, the refs seem to have a lot of questionable calls
                    lately. All I heard on the radio this morning was that Vegas is not
                    stupid and there is a reason the Giants were listed as underdogs and it
                    all has to do with them making money. That is all I was asking about.

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                      Re: Does Vegas know something?

                      [quote user="bflo23"][quote user="Bigbluefan1974"]I'll be the first to admit I do not know much about how Vegas works as far as betting (buying points, etc.)
                      I don't see how in the world the Giants would not be favored in this game.* After hearing someone on the radio this morning discuss betting he was talking about how Vegas put the Giants as the underdog on purpose knowing all the money would flow in on the Giants. He said that scared him about this game like Vegas knows the Pats are going to win this game.* I've been watching football for 30 years and I would be devastated to find out this game is fixed.* Anyone have any insight to how Vegas comes up with their numbers??
                      [/quote]

                      Are you kidding? NFL players are making millions of dollars. They aren't throwing the game. If a QB is making 5-10 million per year, how much would it take for him to "throw" the most important game in his career SUPER BOWL? You think someone is gonna throw him $50 million and Brady/Eli will ruin their legacy...... Vegas comes up with lines and futures by predictors with calculators. They said 30-1 odds for Giants to win the Super Bowl when the Giants got in the playoffs. Keep on underestimating the Giants.

                      And I wasn't surprised at all that the Giants were 3 point underdogs.... Lets not forget the Giants opened 8.5 point underdogs vs the Packers.
                      [/quote]


                      Mike Vick killed dogs, ray Lewis killed a man, how many cheat on their wives and you are telling me "no way" they shave points? Nothing would surprise me

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                        Re: Does Vegas know something?

                        [quote user="bflo23"][quote user="Bigbluefan1974"]I'll be the first to admit I do not know much about how Vegas works as far as betting (buying points, etc.)
                        I don't see how in the world the Giants would not be favored in this game.* After hearing someone on the radio this morning discuss betting he was talking about how Vegas put the Giants as the underdog on purpose knowing all the money would flow in on the Giants. He said that scared him about this game like Vegas knows the Pats are going to win this game.* I've been watching football for 30 years and I would be devastated to find out this game is fixed.* Anyone have any insight to how Vegas comes up with their numbers??
                        [/quote]

                        Are you kidding? NFL players are making millions of dollars. They aren't throwing the game. If a QB is making 5-10 million per year, how much would it take for him to "throw" the most important game in his career SUPER BOWL? You think someone is gonna throw him $50 million and Brady/Eli will ruin their legacy...... Vegas comes up with lines and futures by predictors with calculators. They said 30-1 odds for Giants to win the Super Bowl when the Giants got in the playoffs. Keep on underestimating the Giants.

                        And I wasn't surprised at all that the Giants were 3 point underdogs.... Lets not forget the Giants opened 8.5 point underdogs vs the Packers.
                        [/quote]


                        Mike Vick killed dogs, ray Lewis killed a man, how many cheat on their wives and you are telling me "no way" they shave points? Nothing would surprise me

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                          The amount of money numerous sportsbooks in Vegas and worldwide would lose on a Giants W has me more concerned than any player on the Pats or gameplan Bill could put in place......just looking at the game from a pure football perspective this line is way off and to cover those potential lossessportsbooks wouldnormally shift the line heavy in the Giants favor.....I was thinking like Giants -7 to deter bettors from taking the Giants and limit their potential losses....but instead they have the Pats as faves......so they're giving points to a team that they already completely exposed to with a straight up W?!?!?!?




                          Something stinks......it could be Vegas figuring that all the calls have and will continue to go against the Giants.....it could just be me being paranoid......but the Giants beat the Falcons, Pack and Niners DESPITE the refs.....looks like Vegas is rolling the dice that they won't beat two opponents again or they know something we don't......




                          Again this line scares more than anything.

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                          • #14
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                            Vegas also had the packers+7 and 49ers+3 and they lost?

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                              [quote user="Bigbluefan1974"]

                              Not every player is making millions of dollars
                              first of all. Second, the refs seem to have a lot of questionable calls
                              lately. All I heard on the radio this morning was that Vegas is not
                              stupid and there is a reason the Giants were listed as underdogs and it
                              all has to do with them making money. That is all I was asking about.

                              [/quote]

                              No but the player that can control the outcome of the game is the QB. One wide receiver, one running back, one lineman, one corner, etc. can't throw the game. A baseball pitcher? Yes. A QB? Yes.

                              Refs? I do think refs in all sports try to get certain teams in because they believe it means more viewers and more money for NFL. In all seriousness, these refs preferred to see the Packers vs Patriots because they believed it would mean more national viewers, more money, "storyline", etc. The last thing the NFL wants to see is Lions vs Texans in SB. And Vegas is stupid..... 80-1 odds for the Giants at one point in the season..... Do you understand the hit that Vegas would take if the Giants won this game? Some Giant fan who bet just a $100 would get $8,000.

                              Was Vegas stupid when they had the St. Louis Cardinals future bet at 999-1 and they won the WS? I guess they aren't as smart as you think.

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