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  • We've had an OK offseason so far I guess, but....

    We have not improved in the area where we were BY FAR the weakest last season: offensive line.

    So I struggle to call this a good offseason to this point. Let's see what happens in the draft, but all signs point to us being really bad on the O line again.

    Is that a good offseason?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Dave Brown View Post
    We have not improved in the area where we were BY FAR the weakest last season: offensive line.

    So I struggle to call this a good offseason to this point. Let's see what happens in the draft, but all signs point to us being really bad on the O line again.

    Is that a good offseason?
    Not to sound like a total downer but I never really get worked up about personnel during the draft or offseason. I used to.I have had high hopes and been disappointed too often and my rule of thumb is wait till they get on the field. Show me something. I get sick of all the talk and hype. Preseason usually gives you a little idea of what you are in store for with your newbies. But as far as speculation goes....shut your mouths till you get on the field.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by U.S.M.C. VET View Post
      Not to sound like a total downer but I never really get worked up about personnel during the draft or offseason. I used to.I have had high hopes and been disappointed too often and my rule of thumb is wait till they get on the field. Show me something. I get sick of all the talk and hype. Preseason usually gives you a little idea of what you are in store for with your newbies. But as far as speculation goes....shut your mouths till you get on the field.
      Fair enough. I see your point of view, but I would still like to see the team attempt to address real areas of need in the offseason. Between McAdoo basically deflecting attention away from the O line and putting it on Eli, and then Reese not really doing anything in free agency of any note, I'm disappointed as a fan.

      Last offseason we had huge needs on defense, and I felt like they were addressed. As a result, our D was vastly improved and it turned us into a playoff team.

      Now, to get to the next level, we need players who can run block and play the tackle position better. Have we done that in this offseason? No.

      It's disappointing in that sense. I know we have done some other good things, but I just don't see how this can be called a good offseason so far when we have not addressed the O line apart from signing DJ Fluker, a player who was discarded by the Chargers, who had probably the worst O line in the league last year.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dave Brown View Post
        Fair enough. I see your point of view, but I would still like to see the team attempt to address real areas of need in the offseason. Between McAdoo basically deflecting attention away from the O line and putting it on Eli, and then Reese not really doing anything in free agency of any note, I'm disappointed as a fan.

        Last offseason we had huge needs on defense, and I felt like they were addressed. As a result, our D was vastly improved and it turned us into a playoff team.

        Now, to get to the next level, we need players who can run block and play the tackle position better. Have we done that in this offseason? No.

        It's disappointing in that sense. I know we have done some other good things, but I just don't see how this can be called a good offseason so far when we have not addressed the O line apart from signing DJ Fluker, a player who was discarded by the Chargers, who had probably the worst O line in the league last year.
        Its almost as if they are setting Eli up to fail,eh? I know, its a disgrace. And McAdoo went about things all wrong....Coughlin, Parcells, or Reeves would have put the blame on the team as a whole including themselves rather than call out the QB. As much as Eli pisses me off and makes his boneheaded moves I will never believe or say that it is one individuals fault. There are other reasons why you are where you are at.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dave Brown View Post
          We have not improved in the area where we were BY FAR the weakest last season: offensive line.

          So I struggle to call this a good offseason to this point. Let's see what happens in the draft, but all signs point to us being really bad on the O line again.

          Is that a good offseason?
          It's a good offseason because they did the best they could with the cap space they had so far.
          Engage brain before speaking.

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          • #6
            Ya.. I know...

            I went to OL.com and there are tons of good OL to pick up! AND Free Shipping this weekend!!!
            AND.. WAIT!! get a second OL for FREE..just pay S&P....

            Why hasn't that dummy Reese been there??
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            • #7
              Originally posted by keyofgmen View Post
              Ya.. I know...

              I went to OL.com and there are tons of good OL to pick up! AND Free Shipping this weekend!!!
              AND.. WAIT!! get a second OL for FREE..just pay S&P....

              Why hasn't that dummy Reese been there??
              Whitworth is still a high quality left tackle. PFF graded his signing an A. With Eli at the end of the line we could have gotten this guy and it would have solved our problems at LT. Are we looking at a trade for Joe Thomas?

              I don't know about you but I think Reese should be doing all in his power to give Eli the best chance possible at getting a third ring. In not addressing the O line, which was a massive problem last year, Reese is failing Eli in this regard.

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              • #8
                Who should the Giants have signed as an FA OL? IMO, they were all overpriced and glad the Ginats did not pay them

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by uther99 View Post
                  Who should the Giants have signed as an FA OL? IMO, they were all overpriced and glad the Ginats did not pay them
                  Whitworth.

                  The real answer to all of this is they should have drafted Tunsil when they had the chance. Unfortunately they were scared off because the guy did a bong hit in high school.

                  Good move there. How can anyone ever trust or respect someone who tried weed in high school? God forbid...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dave Brown View Post
                    Whitworth.
                    ...
                    3 years 36 million is a lot for a 35 year old tackle. I don't think that is a great use of cap, but that's my opinion. time will tell.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dave Brown View Post
                      Whitworth.

                      The real answer to all of this is they should have drafted Tunsil when they had the chance. Unfortunately they were scared off because the guy did a bong hit in high school.

                      Good move there. How can anyone ever trust or respect someone who tried weed in high school? God forbid...
                      You mean like Will Hill?

                      It really has no bearing what any of us think about the use of weed...THE NFL has consequences....why would you spend a first round pick on someone that might be suspended half the time? I wish you guys would stop using Tunsil as any kind of an example....because on the day the choice was made the Giants and Reese did the right thing based on their info....pretty easy now that you have more info
                      "When I was 15, I could not believe how dumb my father was.....when I was 25, I could not believe how much he had learned in 10 years"

                      1st to use the phrase "In Reese we trust"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by keyofgmen View Post
                        Ya.. I know...

                        I went to OL.com and there are tons of good OL to pick up! AND Free Shipping this weekend!!!
                        AND.. WAIT!! get a second OL for FREE..just pay S&P....

                        Why hasn't that dummy Reese been there??
                        OL.com you say?

                        Will have to check it out lol.
                        my beer drinking team has a football problem

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dave Brown View Post
                          Whitworth is still a high quality left tackle. PFF graded his signing an A. With Eli at the end of the line we could have gotten this guy and it would have solved our problems at LT. Are we looking at a trade for Joe Thomas?

                          I don't know about you but I think Reese should be doing all in his power to give Eli the best chance possible at getting a third ring. In not addressing the O line, which was a massive problem last year, Reese is failing Eli in this regard.
                          I'd be willing to bet they are doing everything in their power to address the Oline.

                          They just happen to think this crop of FA's aren't worth the investment, considering the cap hit.


                          Our line is still relatively young. The FO's assessment must be leaning towards the side that the problems are coachable and correctable.
                          my beer drinking team has a football problem

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by speedman View Post
                            It's a good offseason because they did the best they could with the cap space they had so far.
                            agreed. With the cap and trying to re-sign JPP, the Giants did ok so far.

                            I know a lot of people were hoping to see the O-line addressed in FA. But hell, some of these FA O-linemen got a boatload of money. There is 1 name still out there that I heard some posters mention as a potential O-line target, Austin Pasztor. But now that the Giants have signed JPP long term and opened up some cap space, Pasztor is a realistic reasonable addition?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by keyofgmen View Post
                              Ya.. I know...

                              I went to OL.com and there are tons of good OL to pick up! AND Free Shipping this weekend!!!
                              AND.. WAIT!! get a second OL for FREE..just pay S&P....

                              Why hasn't that dummy Reese been there??
                              Yeah but the yelp reviews were mixed.
                              "Sir, I was wondering: did you happen to catch the professional football contest on television last night?"
                              "No...I didn't."
                              "Oh it was most exhilarating: the Giants of NY took on the Packers of Green Bay and in the end the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big H. It was a most ripping victory."

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