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Are the Giants planning to use 1st-round pick Evan Engram the wrong way?

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  • #16
    Originally posted by YATittle1962 View Post
    labels are the entire problem

    the kid is perfect for the offense and will be used accordingly

    he is what has been missing from the passing attack

    there was no one to threaten the seam
    +1

    He'll play whatever "position" Jimmy Graham or Jordan Reed or Delani Walker or Charles Clay plays

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Rudy View Post
      Wow I can't believe how off base this entire post is
      hahahahaha,,, great stuff right there

      love it

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      • #18
        Originally posted by YATittle1962 View Post
        labels are the entire problem

        the kid is perfect for the offense and will be used accordingly

        he is what has been missing from the passing attack

        there was no one to threaten the seam
        Agreed. People are assuming he's going to be misused like Beckham was but this is an entirely different coaching staff and scheme than back then. Engram will (hopefully) be what the team hoped Donnell would become. And ultra athletic big target that can line up in multiple spots on the field to create mismatches.

        About the only limitation Engram has is as an in-line power blocker. Ask him to take on a DE 1 on 1 on a running play and he's not going to fair well. But, they can ask him to chip a DE, crack back on a LBer, have him and an OT double team a DE on the edge, block a safety in the box, there's bunches of ways he can help there with proper technique.

        But, where he'll really hurt defenses is that, if they man up a LBer on him, he can be flexed out wide and kill him in single coverage. He can go over the top of a safety up the seam.

        There's lots of possibilities. Heck, they should just watch a ton of Saints tape with Jimmy Graham and copy a lot of that.
        All Hail The New York Giants!!

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        • #19
          Engram will be used like Gates TD's and first downs all season long.
          Originally Posted by jmike

          "Barry Sanders has the most negative yardage plays of any player in NFL history by a comfortable margin. He was the major contributor to their biggest offensive issues... Honestly the single most overrated player in any sport ever has to be Barry Sanders. Well, if winning games is your goal. If you want highlights though, he's your man."

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          • #20
            We'll see what happens. This kid is an very good receiver. Seems like he's a decent blocker already. Size doesn't indicate everything. Shannon Sharpe was smaller and a good player. Larry Donnell was a giant and not a very good player. Time will tell but he will at least provide a demension they prob never had at the TE spot.

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            • #21
              everybody CTFD

              the kid will line up and catch passes......

              its that simple
              "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
              You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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              • #22
                The only issue I really have is Reese calls him a TE/HB and then McAdoo says "I don't know what a HB is"....

                Now, I'm sure he knows what an HB is. It's just his attitude seems to rub against Reese on purpose.

                Whatever.
                "Sir, I was wondering: did you happen to catch the professional football contest on television last night?"
                "No...I didn't."
                "Oh it was most exhilarating: the Giants of NY took on the Packers of Green Bay and in the end the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big H. It was a most ripping victory."

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Piddy283 View Post
                  If I were the coaches, I'd push hard to label him a TE. This way, if he pans out and is as good as we hope he is, we pay him like a top notch TE and not a top notch WR.
                  Jimmy Graham already lost that fight. He is a TE for purposes of franchise tags and all that. Doesn't stop him from trying to get as much money as someone will pay him on the open market though.

                  Originally posted by JoeBigBlue View Post
                  The only issue I really have is Reese calls him a TE/HB and then McAdoo says "I don't know what a HB is"....

                  Now, I'm sure he knows what an HB is. It's just his attitude seems to rub against Reese on purpose.

                  Whatever.
                  As someone else said it was kind of a Belichick comment "playing dumb" ect. There is no position called "H-back". Just like X, Y and Z receivers the H was just the designation of that person in the playbook. He was a second TE on the field replacing the runningback (or half back "H"). That is where the term came from, but it's not an actual position title.
                  LT (132.5) -> Strahan (141.5) -> Osi (65) -> Tuck (60.5) -> JPP (50) -> ???
                  "Next man up"

                  "I am a nasty football player, I get after people. That is something that I am very proud of. I am out there and I am physical every play, making sure that the guy across from me wants to quit." - Adam Bisnowaty

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                  • #24
                    I hear ya Mike....I'm still somewhat up in the air with Mac's attitude......I guess that's just the way he is.

                    I'd like him to bring some friggin attitude towards drawing up some plays.
                    "Sir, I was wondering: did you happen to catch the professional football contest on television last night?"
                    "No...I didn't."
                    "Oh it was most exhilarating: the Giants of NY took on the Packers of Green Bay and in the end the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big H. It was a most ripping victory."

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JoeBigBlue View Post
                      I hear ya Mike....I'm still somewhat up in the air with Mac's attitude......I guess that's just the way he is.

                      I'd like him to bring some friggin attitude towards drawing up some plays.
                      Yeah - throw in a Halfback option play for our Joe, Mac!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Rudy View Post
                        Wow I can't believe how off base this entire post is
                        Best comment on the article was on the website.

                        "No "wrong way." The Giants have unlimited and deep access to the guy, the Giants have their own ideas of their own offense and what it will do, the Giants are head coached by a guy who was a TE coach for the predominant part of his career at SF and GB and who says being a TE coach is the most important experience he has had in the NFL, the one that opened up his approach to the offense as a whole.



                        In that regard, I do not think they made a first round pick on a whim. I do not think their picking this guy is casual. I do not think they need the advice of newspaper and web site kibitzers to figure out what to do with him.

                        LOL but below no doubt the savants who picked the Giants to have a losing season last year will dispute the ability of the team to figure this out and launch their own brilliant alternatives based on their infinite wisdom.

                        So sad so sad, and the Giants are going to be soooo Good. "- writerrad
                        Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                        http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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                        • #27
                          This is what is scary. HE is basically a young Brandon Marshall that we will use in the slot. Will that take snaps away from Shep? Will is take snaps away from Marshall? Will we totally misuse him like we did Travis Beckum?

                          I think EE will be a stat machine..... if the offense is right.
                          WE ALREADY HAVE A GREAT RUNNING BACK:

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post

                            "I don't know what an H-back is," McAdoo said.
                            This is my only concern right here. Either he is lying, which does not speak well for him as a person or he really doesn't know, which does not speak well for him as a coach.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by jmike View Post
                              This is my only concern right here. Either he is lying, which does not speak well for him as a person or he really doesn't know, which does not speak well for him as a coach.
                              As I was saying, I'm SURE he knows....it's that attitude that he has that I am just not quite getting yet.
                              "Sir, I was wondering: did you happen to catch the professional football contest on television last night?"
                              "No...I didn't."
                              "Oh it was most exhilarating: the Giants of NY took on the Packers of Green Bay and in the end the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big H. It was a most ripping victory."

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by JoeBigBlue View Post
                                As I was saying, I'm SURE he knows....it's that attitude that he has that I am just not quite getting yet.
                                As I said, it really doesn't matter which it is, it doesn't sound good either way.

                                He could simply say "We don't use that label in this offense and will use the TE position in many different alignments. We are less concerned about what positional label he will have on the roster page and more concerned about finding ways to use him and his abilities in the best ways possible to help this team win games."

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