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  • Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

    On almost all of the film I've seem Osi could get 1/2 sack credit because he's being double teamed and chipped like crazy. He looks like he's moving twice as fast as everyone else up front and yes JPP was right, The Giants front DID get into Brady's head. I hope they keep them plus Kiwi, Bernard and Canty together. They need a "NASCAR" Poster.

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    Re: Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

    his split is to far outside,he creates to many holes in the run game when he does that! How about a bull rush now and then? How about a swim move to the inside,twist with Canty?

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    • #3
      Re: Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

      JPP has said he doesn't how little he gets paid as long as he gets to play with Osi and Tuck.

      I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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      • #4
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        [quote user="Toadofsteel"]JPP has said he doesn't how little he gets paid as long as he gets to play with Osi and Tuck.[/quote]Yeah because in 2 years when he is putting up gaudy numbers (mainly on him, but Tuck and Osi don't hurt), that is when he is gonna become the highest paid defensive player in NFL History.
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        • #5
          Re: Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

          [quote user="Voldamort"]his split is to far outside,he creates to many holes in the run game when he does that! How about a bull rush now and then? How about a swim move to the inside,twist with Canty?[/quote]

          You do realize that his run responsibility is usually the outside of the tackle, right? The 7 gap, or if he lines out outside the TE, then the 9 gap.

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          • #6
            Re: Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

            It's not even debatable that we're better with him. The problem isn't talent/production, it's what it will cost to keep him. May just not be worth it.

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            • #7
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              sigh* i think this is transference. people read the affidavit and took from it osi wants top 5 de money, when in fact what was stated in the affidavit reese offered top 5 de money or trade.

              so its like your transferring your anger for what was offered to osi as if it was asked or demanded.

              think of it like this your at your job you had a good 1st quarter, boss pulls you into his office and says " keep it up i got a promotion with your name on it." sick most of 2nd quarter not that productive, posted good numbers 3rd quarter not as good as your first but took some days off, beasted out in your 4th quarter... whats the first thing your gonna say too you boss? " you said it not me now wheres my promotion."

              wanting/asking for something is way different than being offered/alternatively compensated.

              lets see what osi asks for before we cast judgement of ohh hes not affordable or he's not worth the money

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              • #8
                Re: Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

                After the season he had in 2010 with all of the forced fumbles, he did what every other NFL player would've done. It sucks but that is how the business works. It's not like baseball.
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                • #9
                  Re: Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

                  The cap is simply too low to keep them all. Especially when another team offers an insane amount for a medicore DE. How can an Osi not feel slighted when mediocre DE's get paid so much more?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

                    [quote user="ikebibby91"]On almost all of the film I've seem Osi could get 1/2 sack credit because he's being double teamed and chipped like crazy. He looks like he's moving twice as fast as everyone else up front and yes JPP was right, The Giants front DID get into Brady's head. I hope they keep them plus Kiwi, Bernard and Canty together. They need a "NASCAR" Poster.
                    [/quote]

                    The player who makes the sack gets the credit. There's no credit for trying

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                    • #11
                      Re: Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

                      [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Voldamort"]his split is to far outside,he creates to many holes in the run game when he does that! How about a bull rush now and then? How about a swim move to the inside,twist with Canty?[/quote]

                      You do realize that his run responsibility is usually the outside of the tackle, right? The 7 gap, or if he lines out outside the TE, then the 9 gap.[/quote]

                      You are right to a certain extent. He is responsible to cover outside the tackle on most plays. However, when he shoots straight upfield and the tackle peels off to block him, he goes very wide. This widens the inside gap so big that the guy responsible to cover it gets beat. It gives the runner too many options. Osi is a top tier pass rusher for sure. But he relies on quickness off the snap and has a limited arsenal of moves/techniques. His contain on run plays needs to be addressed.

                      This is a big reason why JR won't pay him top DE money. He IS a top pass rusher. He is NOT a top DE. You have to recognize the distinction.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

                        [quote user="Firenugget"]It's not even debatable that we're better with him. The problem isn't talent/production, it's what it will cost to keep him. May just not be worth it.
                        [/quote]Yeah I feel the same way dude,there's no doubt we are a better defensive team with him in there.He does have to be taken account for and that allows others to have single coverage and it makes it easier for them.You're also right it will cost to keep him and Reese might try and get something for him now rather than wait and get nothing when he leaves next year.We will get a compensation pick that's about it maybe a third rounder if we're lucky.I don't want to see him leave either but it looks to be inevitable at this point.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

                          [quote user="Mod_C"][quote user="ikebibby91"]On almost all of the film I've seem Osi could get 1/2 sack credit because he's being double teamed and chipped like crazy. He looks like he's moving twice as fast as everyone else up front and yes JPP was right, The Giants front DID get into Brady's head. I hope they keep them plus Kiwi, Bernard and Canty together. They need a "NASCAR" Poster.
                          [/quote]

                          The player who makes the sack gets the credit.* There's no credit for trying
                          [/quote]

                          You should have your moderator status revoked because that was a really dumb statement. Often times the guy who gets the sack was not the primary pressure guy - in the super bowl, Tolly rushed Brady and made him step up into Tuck for a sack. Tuck got credit but Tolly flushed Brady.

                          Osi flushes the qb frequently, even if he does not get a sack. Go learn the game.
                          Originally posted by PennState1
                          In and around the end zone and on crucial plays, the ball should go to one of our 3 receivers and no one else if at all possible.

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                            Re: Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

                            [quote user="FresnoGiant"][quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Voldamort"]his split is to far outside,he creates to many holes in the run game when he does that! How about a bull rush now and then? How about a swim move to the inside,twist with Canty?[/quote]

                            You do realize that his run responsibility is usually the outside of the tackle, right? The 7 gap, or if he lines out outside the TE, then the 9 gap.[/quote]

                            You are right to a certain extent. He is responsible to cover outside the tackle on most plays. However, when he shoots straight upfield and the tackle peels off to block him, he goes very wide. This widens the inside gap so big that the guy responsible to cover it gets beat. It gives the runner too many options. Osi is a top tier pass rusher for sure. But he relies on quickness off the snap and has a limited arsenal of moves/techniques. His contain on run plays needs to be addressed.

                            This is a big reason why JR won't pay him top DE money. He IS a top pass rusher. He is NOT a top DE. You have to recognize the distinction.[/quote]

                            So, the highest paid defensive ends in the NFL are great run stoppers? Wake the **** up and stop trying to find flaws. Defensive ends get paid based upon sacks not run stopping. Osi does stop the run, you guys are basing your silly analysis on two seasons ago in the Sheridan system when the ENTIRE defense stunk and Osi was still the leading pass rusher.
                            Originally posted by PennState1
                            In and around the end zone and on crucial plays, the ball should go to one of our 3 receivers and no one else if at all possible.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Osi's Presence Allows Other To Be Beasts.

                              [quote user="FresnoGiant"]However, when he shoots straight upfield and the tackle peels off to block him, he goes very wide. This widens the inside gap so big that the guy responsible to cover it gets beat..[/quote]

                              When the tackle peels off, Osi bends in and goes down the line, Ive seen him do it countless times, thats why its pretty rare to see Osi unblocked on run plays.

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