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    Gibril Wilson
    Kevin Boss
    Derrick Ward
    Steve Smith
    Barry Cofield
    Fred Robbins
    Plaxico Burress
    Kawika Mitchell
    etc...

    Here is a list of players that made a name for themselves around the NFL as a Giant. This is also a list of players that left for free agency while playing at their highest level to instantly fall in the dumpster of washed-up players. Yes, these players were all talented, but its the organization and team around you that makes you the superstar you are. Not just your raw ability. Leaving one to argue; should a player stay in a good system that has given them success? Or leave for a big contract that they only deserved because the Giants' coaches put them in situations to be successful?

    When it comes to wide receivers, pray for a good QB. No matter how awesome you are, you won't get the chance to display it if your QB sucks. Randy Moss sucked in Oakland, people thought he was done. Then links up with Brady and sets records. Deon Branch, great with Brady. Goes to Seattle and plays like a has-been. Goes back to Brady and re-makes a name for himself. Steve Smith, he breaks Giant records with Eli and then misses out on a 2nd ring because he wanted to go suck with Vick. (I'm sure many more examples could be made.)

    Any of these Giant free agents better be wary of these trends. Success is far more important than any amount of money. Manningham and Jacobs will likely disappear from the NFL lime-light if they choose to leave. For their sake, lets hope they don't.

    p.s. - It has already been a long enough road and struggle to get Manningham to finally play at the level we expect since his draft. Hopefully he doesnt let this 15-minutes of fame go to his head, because if he leaves and enters a new system with a worse QB, he'll just be starting all over again from the bottom.

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    Re: Don't be a silly free agent (Manningham)

    so disappointing to see the giants forums are filled with people who constantly bicker about the most unimportant ****, and post about nothing on topics that have no relevance.

    i have provided a topic full of potential for responses, and yet nobody has any comments. i seem to be the only one that wants to talk giants football. yal would rather watch videos of Gronkowski dancing and make jokes about it. that of which has absolutely nothing to do with giants football.

    does anyone know where i can find a forum for people that actually want to talk giants football?

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    • #3
      Re: Don't be a silly free agent (Manningham)

      you've got a point but i see manningham's side of it too.

      this is probably his best chance at a big contract.

      that's money for his family, and his kids, grandkids, and probably beyond that if he can avoid buying 10 escalades.

      all those guys on that list up there had rings, what they didn't have was enough walkin' around money.

      so i get it.
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      • #4
        Re: Don't be a silly free agent (Manningham)

        Manningham earned every right to explore free agency. He doesn't owe the Giants anything at this point. He should do what he feels is best for him.

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        • #5
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          Explain how Plax is on that list. It's not like he played out his contract and went to another team. Bloomberg f'ed him after he SHOT himself.
          Half that list wasn't even offered contracts. Atleast not the $ they were expecting.

          The rest got away with highway robbery.

          Say you work at McDonald's and they pay you X. Wendy's comes along and offers you XXX. Are you saying your going to stay at McDonald's because you like the fries?

          $ talks period
          the players that earn the $ they deserve aren't going anywhere. The New York Football Giants are not going to be losing playmakers like Peppers, Steelers Plax, Jared Allen, ect.

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          • #6
            Re: Don't be a silly free agent (Manningham)

            A lifetime of wealth is more important than winning to most of these guys

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            • #7
              Re: Don't be a silly free agent (Manningham)

              [quote user="NJGIANTinNC"]Explain how Plax is on that list. It's not like he played out his contract and went to another team. Bloomberg f'ed him after he SHOT himself.
              Half that list wasn't even offered contracts. Atleast not the $ they were expecting.

              The rest got away with highway robbery.

              Say you work at McDonald's and they pay you X. Wendy's comes along and offers you XXX. Are you saying your going to stay at McDonald's because you like the fries?

              $ talks period
              the players that earn the $ they deserve aren't going anywhere. The New York Football Giants are not going to be losing playmakers like Peppers, Steelers Plax, Jared Allen, ect.[/quote]

              the reason why this league and sport have waned. it's more about the money anymore.

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              • #8
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                All right, here is the cold hard truth.




                MM scored about 8 on his wunderlich test. What that means is that he has no other options in life to make many millions of dollars. Football is it for him and he has already exceeded the average NFL career in terms of years played. Look at Steve Smith, Kevin Boss and you should realize that every player is one bad hit away from no more paydays.To you and me, the difference between 1 and 4 million dollars per yearis just a few million dollars (it is monopoy money to us, without meaning)but for MM that is the difference between financial independence for his family foreverversus signing autographs for the rest of his lifeat $5 bucks a pop.




                Someone is going to pay him like a #1, which he is not. I love him as our #3 because he is so dangerous despite his route running issues. I would love to keep himfor a reasonable, cap friendly pricebut have no problem with him taking care of his family first.




                No one remembers who came in second.

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                • #9
                  Re: Don't be a silly free agent (Manningham)

                  [quote user="Osi_baby"]Gibril Wilson
                  Kevin Boss
                  Derrick Ward
                  Steve Smith
                  Barry Cofield
                  Fred Robbins
                  Plaxico Burress
                  Kawika Mitchell
                  etc...

                  Here is a list of players that made a name for themselves around the NFL as a Giant. This is also a list of players that left for free agency while playing at their highest level to instantly fall in the dumpster of washed-up players. Yes, these players were all talented, but its the organization and team around you that makes you the superstar you are. Not just your raw ability. Leaving one to argue; should a player stay in a good system that has given them success? Or leave for a big contract that they only deserved because the Giants' coaches put them in situations to be successful?

                  When it comes to wide receivers, pray for a good QB. No matter how awesome you are, you won't get the chance to display it if your QB sucks. Randy Moss sucked in Oakland, people thought he was done. Then links up with Brady and sets records. Deon Branch, great with Brady. Goes to Seattle and plays like a has-been. Goes back to Brady and re-makes a name for himself. Steve Smith, he breaks Giant records with Eli and then misses out on a 2nd ring because he wanted to go suck with Vick. (I'm sure many more examples could be made.)

                  Any of these Giant free agents better be wary of these trends. Success is far more important than any amount of money. Manningham and Jacobs will likely disappear from the NFL lime-light if they choose to leave. For their sake, lets hope they don't.

                  p.s. - It has already been a long enough road and struggle to get Manningham to finally play at the level we expect since his draft. Hopefully he doesnt let this 15-minutes of fame go to his head, because if he leaves and enters a new system with a worse QB, he'll just be starting all over again from the bottom.
                  [/quote]
                  From a fan's perspective, I agree with you. But you got to see it from their perspective.

                  If you worked at a Wal-Mart, and another one opened up where you could earn much more money for yourself and your family for doing the same work, what would you do?

                  For this reason, I tend to not get too attached to specific players, I'm a fan of the Giants team and the values it represents.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Don't be a silly free agent (Manningham)

                    [quote user="Osi_baby"]so disappointing to see the giants forums are filled with people who constantly bicker about the most unimportant ****, and post about nothing on topics that have no relevance.

                    i have provided a topic full of potential for responses, and yet nobody has any comments.* i seem to be the only one that wants to talk giants football.* yal would rather watch videos of Gronkowski dancing and make jokes about it.* that of which has absolutely nothing to do with giants football.

                    does anyone know where i can find a forum for people that actually want to talk giants football?
                    [/quote]
                    Since your elitist attitude has you believing it isn't here, try the door there---------------->

                    And don't let it hit ya where the good lord split ya. (oh, and take your "Topic full of potential responses" with you. Want a topic full of potential responses? Here's one... "Why this snotty OP should shut the **** up." That should keep us busy for awhile.)

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                    • #11
                      Re: Don't be a silly free agent (Manningham)

                      yeah but they all got $$$$ for the trouble.

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                      • #12
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                        He will go where the money is. period. Any one of us would do the same. wether he is worth #1 money or not - someone will give him 4-5 mil per year for 4 or more years, Imagine him in SF with Crabtree and Davis, Peyton has already said he would take a contract based on performance, If you were Mario would you stay with the Giants for 2 mil or go where you are the #2 for 4 mil?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Don't be a silly free agent (Manningham)

                          As long as it isn't the eagles, I'm happy for him and hope he gets what is best for him and his family for life

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                          • #14
                            Re: Don't be a silly free agent (Manningham)

                            [quote user="NJGIANTinNC"]Say you work at McDonald's and they pay you X. Wendy's comes along and offers you XXX. Are you saying your going to stay at McDonald's because you like the fries?[/quote]

                            lmao great analogy. funny & relevant.

                            I get the whole money issue as far as using a big contract to sustain you for the rest of you and your family's life. but let me break down my logic on this standpoint.

                            mock free agency for mario: as it stands he made $1.4 million in 2011...

                            #1 WR contract: 3yrs / $25 million {roughly $8.3 million a year} Lets assume he busts with that new team and doesnt make another roster after those three years. He ends up making $25 million and is considered a wash-up.

                            #3 WR contract w/ gmen: 7yrs / $25 million {rounghly $3.5 million a year} Very realistic for Manningham to have an 11yr career if he stays in the same system with Eli throwing him the ball. He'd end up making that same $25 million, except he'll be considered a great Giant receiver instead of some wash-up. Also not to mention the possibility of a few more rings.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Don't be a silly free agent (Manningham)

                              [quote user="Osi_baby"][quote user="NJGIANTinNC"]Say you work at McDonald's and they pay you X. Wendy's comes along and offers you XXX. Are you saying your going to stay at McDonald's because you like the fries?[/quote]

                              lmao great analogy.* funny & relevant.

                              I get the whole money issue as far as using a big contract to sustain you for the rest of you and your family's life.* but let me break down my logic on this standpoint.

                              mock free agency for mario:* as it stands he made $1.4 million in 2011...

                              #1 WR contract:* 3yrs / $25 million* {roughly $8.3 million a year} Lets assume he busts with that new team and doesnt make another roster after those three years.* he ends up making $25 million.

                              #3 WR contract w/ gmen:* 7yrs / $25 million {rounghly $3.5 million a year} Very realistic for Manningham to have an 11yr career if he stays in the same system with Eli throwing him the ball.* He'd end up making that same $25 million, except he'll be considered a great Giant receiver instead of some wash-up.* Also not to mention the possibility of a few more rings.
                              [/quote]

                              Rather unrealistic to imagine he can't make another roster 3 years from now don't you think?!?

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