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  • I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

    Lets be real guys, Until this year Eli has been somewhat inconsistent. Yes he knows how to perform when his team is in need of him to do so, but he is not a lock for the hall of fame just yet. If he continues to put up average Eli numbers for the next 5 years than he is a lock, even if he doesn't win another ring. Once again I love Eli and think he will eventually be a Hall of Famer but he still has a lot of football years left and its too early to make him a lock.

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    Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

    The only reason Eli is not a lock at this time is due to the length of his career, not his lack of consistency. Look at Warner's numbers season by season, he's much more inconsistent than Eli ever was.

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      [quote user="dayeh33"]Lets be real guys, Until this year Eli has been somewhat inconsistent. Yes he knows how to perform when his team is in need of him to do so, but he is not a lock for the hall of fame just yet. If he continues to put up average Eli numbers for the next 5 years than he is a lock, even if he doesn't win another ring. Once again I love Eli and think he will eventually be a Hall of Famer but he still has a lot of football years left and its too early to make him a lock.
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      100% agree. people are so quick to forget the many bad decisions he has made over the years and the many horrible games....







      Based on this year, he is a HOFer though. He still has work to do.

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        Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

        Also having one season doesn't lock you up for the hall of fame. I think he eventually will get in, no doubt iny mind, but just not from one season.
        Mood: WOOF!

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          Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

          [quote user="dayeh33"]Lets be real guys, Until this year Eli has been somewhat inconsistent. Yes he knows how to perform when his team is in need of him to do so, but he is not a lock for the hall of fame just yet. If he continues to put up average Eli numbers for the next 5 years than he is a lock, even if he doesn't win another ring. Once again I love Eli and think he will eventually be a Hall of Famer but he still has a lot of football years left and its too early to make him a lock.
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          I would agree with this.

          Right now, with his 2nd SB MVP win, he's on the cusp of greatness and POSSIBLE HOF.

          As you suggest, I believe with 5 more years at MOST of what Eli has averaged his first 8 years--statistically, and with some post season games in at least 2-3 of those 5 years, he's certain for the Hall.

          Although, given that he has continuously improved, for the most part, each of his first 8 years, it's conceivable he will exceed his "average" and produce more seasons similar to the 2011 season.

          Savor every moment

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            Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

            [quote user="NYBlue10"]The only reason Eli is not a lock at this time is due to the length of his career, not his lack of consistency. Look at Warner's numbers season by season, he's much more inconsistent than Eli ever was.[/quote]

            Exactly right.

            His "inconsistency", while it has existed for certain, has been WAY overstated, in my view.

            Zero losing seasons since he became full season starter, seven years.

            One of only FOUR NFL (along with Brees, Peyton, Brady) QBs who has produced a minimum of 20 TDs / 3000 yards in the past 7 consecutive years or longer.

            Plus, he's the first QB to lead an NFC team to appearances in, and victories in, 2 Super Bowls since Aikman did nearly 20 years ago.

            How is THAT "inconsistent" or "not great"?

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              Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

              Let's give him another 2 years to prove consistency, but he's HOF in my book.

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              • #8
                Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

                This is stupid. Eli was never inconsistent. His 2010 numbers were an outlier.

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                  Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

                  [quote user="dayeh33"]Lets be real guys, Until this year Eli has been somewhat inconsistent. Yes he knows how to perform when his team is in need of him to do so, but he is not a lock for the hall of fame just yet. If he continues to put up average Eli numbers for the next 5 years than he is a lock, even if he doesn't win another ring. Once again I love Eli and think he will eventually be a Hall of Famer but he still has a lot of football years left and its too early to make him a lock.
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                  I agree that if he retired today he most likely wouldn't be a HoFer.

                  However I disagree with the consistency part ... he's thrown for 4K+ yards in each of his last 4 years. He's thrown about the same TD/Int ratio as he's averaged (last year seems to have been an abberation).

                  If anything, I'd say Eli is the model of consistancy with the caveat that he becomes a slightly stronger QB year after year (which is what you'd expect from a vet).

                  Few more years and he's a HoF shoe-in. Question becomes if Eli can put up enough stats and possibly more SB appearances to warrant a first ballot selection.
                  I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                    Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of...


                    ...jealous

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                      Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

                      [quote user="Kruunch"][quote user="dayeh33"]Lets be real guys, Until this year Eli has been somewhat inconsistent. Yes he knows how to perform when his team is in need of him to do so, but he is not a lock for the hall of fame just yet. If he continues to put up average Eli numbers for the next 5 years than he is a lock, even if he doesn't win another ring. Once again I love Eli and think he will eventually be a Hall of Famer but he still has a lot of football years left and its too early to make him a lock.
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                      I agree that if he retired today he most likely wouldn't be a HoFer.

                      However I disagree with the consistency part ... he's thrown for 4K+ yards in each of his last 4 years. He's thrown about the same TD/Int ratio as he's averaged (last year seems to have been an abberation).

                      If anything, I'd say Eli is the model of consistancy with the caveat that he becomes a slightly stronger QB year after year (which is what you'd expect from a vet).

                      Few more years and he's a HoF shoe-in. Question becomes if Eli can put up enough stats and possibly more SB appearances to warrant a first ballot selection.[/quote]

                      This^.

                      "...two minute drill at the end of each quarter, Ya'know with the wind like this blowing mooch and marshall into the ocean...If that's behind me I think were getting 3 from 70 so holla at your boy. IF YOU DON"T PICK ME THAT'S A JOKE RIGHT?" - Justin Tucker, Ravens kicker

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                        Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

                        [quote user="NYBlue10"]The only reason Eli is not a lock at this time is due to the length of his career, not his lack of consistency. Look at Warner's numbers season by season, he's much more inconsistent than Eli ever was.[/quote]

                        Agreed. I find it funny the Warner went off on Eli's having 16 are more ints in 5 of his eight seasons, yet forgets that he's had 7 seasons (out of eleven) where he tossed double digit ints! The only difference between Eli's stats and Warners was that Warner had a higher completion %, which means that he was tossing swing passes to Marshall Faulk more than Eli was tossing swing passes to Ahmad Bradshaw.

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                          Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

                          [quote user="NYBlue10"]The only reason Eli is not a lock at this time is due to the length of his career, not his lack of consistency. Look at Warner's numbers season by season, he's much more inconsistent than Eli ever was.[/quote]

                          This is where Kurt looks like a moron because when asked if he was a HOF QB, he said "Yes", so if his and Eli's number at this point are comparable, and Eli has a good 5-8 years left in him, then he should be a HOF LOCK! The only thing I think is stilly is the entire HOF talk about Eli so early in his career. Let him play it out and see how it goes...

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                            Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

                            Warner has nothing to say over Eli manning. Eli manning has one thing warner never had. They are these things called testicles. Who remembers Warner on the giants?

                            Clean 5 or 6 second pocket and could not find anyone open? Take a sack. That was our main passing play under warner. The -5 yard sack because he did not have guts to fit the ball into a tight window.

                            The only thing that made his twilight years passable was having Fitzgerald, Bolden, and Brestin.

                            Look at what Eli just did with Nicks Cruz and Manningham Kurt.

                            Eli throws picks but he often takes risks and falls on the sword for the giants. Warner down by two TDs in the forth quarter packed it in every time.
                            Just remember Kevin Love makes more money then OBJ, and OBJ also dunks better.

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                              Re: I love Eli, but Kurt Warner is kind of right...

                              [quote user="davmac2BB"][quote user="NYBlue10"]The only reason Eli is not a lock at this time is due to the length of his career, not his lack of consistency. Look at Warner's numbers season by season, he's much more inconsistent than Eli ever was.[/quote]

                              Agreed. I find it funny the Warner went off on Eli's having 16 are more ints in 5 of his eight seasons, yet forgets that he's had 7 seasons (out of eleven) where he tossed double digit ints! The only difference between Eli's stats and Warners was that Warner had a higher completion %, which means that he was tossing swing passes to Marshall Faulk more than Eli was tossing swing passes to Ahmad Bradshaw.

                              [/quote] lol@ the bolded

                              Warner is or was one of the most accurate qbs to ever play

                              and no it doesnt mean that

                              McNabb made a living off the screen pass to Westy and still barely hit 60%


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