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  • #46
    Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?



    no point worrying about the 'aints right now. we'restill trying to keep this celebration going as long as possible!




    anyways, it could take Spags a coupla years to build a defense down there!




    different players down there than what he had with the Giants!

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    • #47
      Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?

      [quote user="buffyblue"][quote user="GameTime"]

      [quote user="Toadofsteel"]This is the one big downside to going deep in the playoffs in 2011. Now the saints have signed Spags. If we had missed the playoffs we could have jettisoned Fewell once and for all and welcomed a defensive god back into our fold. Now he's going to shore up the defensive side of the Saints game, and even playing in the meadowlands they're going to be a real tough team to beat. You've got Brees on one side of the ball, and Spags running the other side. With the aging oline the giants have, eli is going to get repeatedly sacked all night. I know he can take it (especially considering how he toughed it out against the 9ers), but it's going to stifle production all night, while Brees is going to have a field day. I still wouldn't trade the ring we got to get him back though...[/quote]




      why do you*insist that Spagnulo is a DC "god".*He *had ONLY TWO real*good years as a DC also his ONLY two years as a DC. That makes him a "god???? Please I like Spagnulo but he has as many rings as Fewell does at the moment. I never understood the utter jock gobbling for Spagnulo that many have. Not taking anything away from him but I see him as a real good DC....thats it.




      You are already crying about next season and having the team beat.....ease up man...

      [/quote]

      I couldn’t agree with you more about Spags. Our defense in 2007 was not nearly as good as people want to claim it is. They just showed up in the big game and lets face it folks, when we play NE they bring out the best game in us.

      I actually think the Saints were better off with Greg Williams as their DC than they are with Spags.

      We play the Saints in our house this time. I hope it is a December night game and oh so cold for them. They are a different team out of a dome.[/quote]

      I sure hope youre right... I don't want another 49-24 loss. That was so painful. If we hadn't turned around the performance against GB and the cowboys, there would be no chance in hell of the playoffs.

      [quote user="NWKEffectElement"]Maybe your team should learn how to beat the 49ers, because we did. The aints didn't finish. Brees won't have **** but field turf in his mouth ALL day at the Meadowlands. Once he loses Nicks and Coleston they will be easier to dissect. Eli has seen any and ever defense at this point so bring it on!!

      Let us enjoy this championship. The bandwagon is too full nor do we need some troll trying to convince us that run was anything short of brilliant. GTFOH with this BS!![/quote]You know I'm a giants fan right? And not a bandwagon one at that either. I still rooted for the giants in the face of that saints loss. I just don't like to see my team lose. It's incredibly painful. Brees just kept completing pass after pass. I wanted to see him eat some dirt after that.

      I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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      • #48
        Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?

        saints are in some serious cap trouble next year


        https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheeBloodSport/

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        • #49
          Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?

          [quote user="Toadofsteel"]This is the one big downside to going deep in the playoffs in 2011. Now the saints have signed Spags. If we had missed the playoffs we could have jettisoned Fewell once and for all and welcomed a defensive god back into our fold. Now he's going to shore up the defensive side of the Saints game, and even playing in the meadowlands they're going to be a real tough team to beat. You've got Brees on one side of the ball, and Spags running the other side. With the aging oline the giants have, eli is going to get repeatedly sacked all night. I know he can take it (especially considering how he toughed it out against the 9ers), but it's going to stifle production all night, while Brees is going to have a field day.

          I still wouldn't trade the ring we got to get him back though...[/quote]


          I've also been a frequent critic of Fewell and I have said many times I would love Spags back. But, we got a Superbowl win this year under Fewell, no easy thing to do given the amount of injuries on defense we've had. As such, I have to give him credit. Yeah, I would still prefer Spags over Fewell because I believe Spags is a better D coach than Fewell but Fewell got the job done and in my book, earned the head D coach job next year.

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          • #50
            Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?

            [quote user="sc_markt"][quote user="Toadofsteel"]This is the one big downside to going deep in the playoffs in 2011. Now the saints have signed Spags. If we had missed the playoffs we could have jettisoned Fewell once and for all and welcomed a defensive god back into our fold. Now he's going to shore up the defensive side of the Saints game, and even playing in the meadowlands they're going to be a real tough team to beat. You've got Brees on one side of the ball, and Spags running the other side. With the aging oline the giants have, eli is going to get repeatedly sacked all night. I know he can take it (especially considering how he toughed it out against the 9ers), but it's going to stifle production all night, while Brees is going to have a field day.

            I still wouldn't trade the ring we got to get him back though...[/quote]


            I've also been a frequent critic of Fewell and I have said many times I would love Spags back. But, we got a Superbowl win this year under Fewell, no easy thing to do given the amount of injuries on defense we've had. As such, I have to give him credit. Yeah, I would still prefer Spags over Fewell because I believe Spags is a better D coach than Fewell but Fewell got the job done and in my book, earned the head D coach job next year.[/quote]

            Like I said, i'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt sue to that championship. I just don't like the style of managing a defense from the back end first. Coverages get blown all the time in the NFL.

            I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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            • #51
              Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?



              [quote user="Toadofsteel"]This is the one big downside to going deep in the playoffs in 2011. Now the saints have signed Spags. If we had missed the playoffs we could have jettisoned Fewell once and for all and welcomed a defensive god back into our fold. Now he's going to shore up the defensive side of the Saints game, and even playing in the meadowlands they're going to be a real tough team to beat. You've got Brees on one side of the ball, and Spags running the other side. With the aging oline the giants have, eli is going to get repeatedly sacked all night. I know he can take it (especially considering how he toughed it out against the 9ers), but it's going to stifle production all night, while Brees is going to have a field day. I still wouldn't trade the ring we got to get him back though...[/quote]




              I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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              • #52
                Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?

                The first step is taking Carl Nicks from them. Hey a guy can dream can't he?

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                • #53
                  Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?



                  You guys are making more of a big deal out of this than it is. Williams is an heck of a DC, it's not like they're getting some huge coaching upgrade there.




                  And to be frank, I doubt the Saints defense looks much different this year than last year. They simply don't have alot of top end talent on their defense, not suprising since they invest so much in their offense. Williams knew that the D was never going to be able to consistently stop other teams, so he built it around creating turnovers knowing that opposing offenses would take risks trying to keep up with the saints O.




                  You call talk about how much Spags blitzed so much, meanwhile Williams blized more than any other DC in the league.

                  All Hail The New York Giants!!

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                  • #54
                    Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?

                    A 4th title or Spags? No offense to Spags but I will take title #4 anyday.

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                    • #55
                      Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?



                      [quote user="Toadofsteel"]This is the one big downside to going deep in the playoffs in 2011. Now the saints have signed Spags. If we had missed the playoffs we could have jettisoned Fewell once and for all and welcomed a defensive god back into our fold. Now he's going to shore up the defensive side of the Saints game, and even playing in the meadowlands they're going to be a real tough team to beat. You've got Brees on one side of the ball, and Spags running the other side. With the aging oline the giants have, eli is going to get repeatedly sacked all night. I know he can take it (especially considering how he toughed it out against the 9ers), but it's going to stifle production all night, while Brees is going to have a field day. I still wouldn't trade the ring we got to get him back though...[/quote]







                      Defensive God?? Wow! That's a little much!

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                      • #56
                        Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?

                        First off... wow on this thread

                        Second... They play here next year. Bring it.

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                        • #57
                          Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?

                          This is a little crazy, but how about we score more points then they do?

                          I'm sure if we do that we will win the game

                          Smart *** answer I know
                          "...two minute drill at the end of each quarter, Ya'know with the wind like this blowing mooch and marshall into the ocean...If that's behind me I think were getting 3 from 70 so holla at your boy. IF YOU DON"T PICK ME THAT'S A JOKE RIGHT?" - Justin Tucker, Ravens kicker

                          Complain?, ain't Nobody got time for dat!

                          GO GIANTS!

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                          • #58
                            Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?

                            [quote user="TrueBlue@NYC"]

                            You guys are making more of a big deal out of this than it is. Williams is an heck of a DC, it's not like they're getting some huge coaching upgrade there.




                            And to be frank, I doubt the Saints defense looks much different this year than last year. They simply don't have alot of top end talent on their defense, not suprising since they invest so much in their offense. Williams knew that the D was never going to be able to consistently stop other teams, so he built it around creating turnovers knowing that opposing offenses would take risks trying to keep up with the saints O.




                            You call talk about how much Spags blitzed so much, meanwhile Williams blized more than any other DC in the league.

                            [/quote]

                            They are actually getting a downgrade at DC by losing Greg Williams and replacing him with Steve Spagnalo.

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                            • #59
                              Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?

                              Carpe Diem

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                              • #60
                                Re: How are the giants supposed to beat the Saints now?

                                [quote user="Toadofsteel"]This is the one big downside to going deep in the playoffs in 2011. Now the saints have signed Spags. If we had missed the playoffs we could have jettisoned Fewell once and for all and welcomed a defensive god back into our fold. Now he's going to shore up the defensive side of the Saints game, and even playing in the meadowlands they're going to be a real tough team to beat. You've got Brees on one side of the ball, and Spags running the other side. With the aging oline the giants have, eli is going to get repeatedly sacked all night. I know he can take it (especially considering how he toughed it out against the 9ers), but it's going to stifle production all night, while Brees is going to have a field day.

                                I still wouldn't trade the ring we got to get him back though...[/quote]

                                When Spags was with us he had the talent to do alot. He had four defensive ends that could start for any team in the NFL. That's why his defensive schemes worked and worked well. He doesn't have that with the Saints. Oh there's talent there alright, but not the talent he had with the Giants. He tried to make Kawanuka another LT because LT was a defensive end in college and so was Kawanuka. There is one difference.....LT was very fast and quick off the ball and he always went after the ball no matter who had it. LT even admitted that all he would do is go after anyone that had the ball. He was actually a defensive end and linebacker. Parcells used his speed and talent to make him a proto type linebacker. Spags was trying the same with Kawanuka. But Kawanuka didn't have the speed that LT had, he was still good and Spags used him in conjuction with Tuck, Osi, Tollefson and Canty. he produced a fearsome defensive line that was the envy of the NFL.
                                Spags doesn't have the same going for him with the Saints......;.so let's not elevate the Saints as the next Super Bowl winner just because Spags is now their defensive coordinator. Besides, do you think the Giants are just going to sit on their laurels and not improve their game???? There's certainly alot more potential with the Giants than with the Saints.

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