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lawl:

they were even less experienced in 2009 and he had a much better year in 2009 when compared to 2010

So much for that theory

Respond to hdkamin's youtube comment.

hdkamin

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bflo23:

lawl:

they were even less experienced in 2009 and he had a much better year in 2009 when compared to 2010

So much for that theory

Respond to hdkamin's youtube comment.

bottom line is, eli manning is elite and half these passes were dropped because of the inexperience of the receivers. now the receivers have gained their experience and learned, and we have the best triple threat in all of football. there's no other qb in the nfl that id rather have than eli.

hdkamin

I just did....

Our WRs had less experience in 09 than they did in '10 yet Eli played better in the 2009 season.

The guy is an idiot.

I can find a bunch of random folks to say Eli sucks if you'd like? It'd be just as dumb.

How about you try and maintain your own argument instead of having some random person try and make one for you?

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Steve Smith, Giants DROPPED Too Many Balls in 2010.....

http://www.bigblueview.com/2011/5/23/2185781/steve-smith-giants-dropped-too-many-balls-in-2010-mario-manningham-kevin-boss

"They dropped 32 balls, or 7.6 percent of what was thrown at them. No stats on how many of those were catchable overall. That indicates that one of every 13 balls Manning threw to a wide receiver or tight end was dropped. That seems like too many. Add the 42 turnovers to the 32 drops and it's easy to see where the Giant offense came up short a season ago."

Giants had a case of stone hands in 2010.... The article is just about the drops and not the tipped interceptions. Lawl will put the blame on Eli of course.

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bflo23:

Steve Smith, Giants DROPPED Too Many Balls in 2010.....

http://www.bigblueview.com/2011/5/23/2185781/steve-smith-giants-dropped-too-many-balls-in-2010-mario-manningham-kevin-boss

"They dropped 32 balls, or 7.6 percent of what was thrown at them. No stats on how many of those were catchable overall. That indicates that one of every 13 balls Manning threw to a wide receiver or tight end was dropped. That seems like too many. Add the 42 turnovers to the 32 drops and it's easy to see where the Giant offense came up short a season ago."

Giants had a case of stone hands in 2010.... The article is just about the drops and not the tipped interceptions. Lawl will put the blame on Eli of course.

I have never blamed Eli for anything.

Why is so hard for you to understand that both a WR and a QB can make a mistake on the same play?

Its like talking to a *** wall. I've said this 4 *** times now.

Read. Just READ what I say. Don't infer anything, dont assume anything. JUST READ.

So much for no child left behind.

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lawl:

I just did....

Our WRs had less experience in 09 than they did in '10 yet Eli played better in the 2009 season.

The guy is an idiot.

I can find a bunch of random folks to say Eli sucks if you'd like? It'd be just as dumb.

How about you try and maintain your own argument instead of having some random person try and make one for you?

All defensive now because Giants fans here, Warner, Dilfer, plenty of youtube accts and EVEN AN ARTICLE talks about Giants stone hands in 2010? Don't be getting mad because they all disagree with you.... I am sure you can tell Warner he is wrong because you play flag football.

Now you are backpedaling. Go back to talking about YAC.

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lawl:

bflo23:

lawl:

they were even less experienced in 2009 and he had a much better year in 2009 when compared to 2010

So much for that theory

Respond to hdkamin's youtube comment.

bottom line is, eli manning is elite and half these passes were dropped because of the inexperience of the receivers. now the receivers have gained their experience and learned, and we have the best triple threat in all of football. there's no other qb in the nfl that id rather have than eli.

hdkamin

I just did....

Our WRs had less experience in 09 than they did in '10 yet Eli played better in the 2009 season.

The guy is an idiot.

I can find a bunch of random folks to say Eli sucks if you'd like? It'd be just as dumb.

How about you try and maintain your own argument instead of having some random person try and make one for you?

um thats arguable lawl. are u seriously gonna not mention steve smith and the 109 receptions? it wasnt a coincidence they both made the probowl that year.

i think the fact smith wasnt as good a YAC guy as cruz actually almost padded eli's stats bc when we'd score it was usually a multiple 3rd down conversion drive to 3rd and smith as opposed to the big play tds we've grown accustomed to.

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Anything JR puts together. UNREAL how amazing he is at drafts. First 3 picks all 1rst round talent.

i dont think it was coincidence that eli's best statistical year occurred when he had a wr who was on the exact same page as the qb.

we had a young nicks, and a younger mm who i def. don't think he had near as good a grasp on the playbook as he does now.

this season is the result when u have THREE wr's grasp the playbook as well as smith did in 09, imho.

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dream offseason:
Anything JR puts together. UNREAL how amazing he is at drafts. First 3 picks all 1rst round talent.

bflo23:

lawl:

I just did....

Our WRs had less experience in 09 than they did in '10 yet Eli played better in the 2009 season.

The guy is an idiot.

I can find a bunch of random folks to say Eli sucks if you'd like? It'd be just as dumb.

How about you try and maintain your own argument instead of having some random person try and make one for you?

All defensive now because Giants fans here, Warner, Dilfer, plenty of youtube accts and EVEN AN ARTICLE talks about Giants stone hands in 2010? Don't be getting mad because they all disagree with you.... I am sure you can tell Warner he is wrong because you play flag football.

Now you are backpedaling. Go back to talking about YAC.

I'm not backpedaling at all.

You're the one that asked me to respond to it and I did. Very directly and succinctly. You on the other hand, deflected and didn't respond. Hmmm, wonder why?

The importance of YAC is why Eli's throws should have been better on those tipped balls as Bill Walsh would attest to. You should really just read.

Read. Read.

Read, Read. and Read again.

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lawl:

I'm not backpedaling at all.

You're the one that asked me to respond to it and I did. Very directly and succinctly. You on the other hand, deflected and didn't respond. Hmmm, wonder why?

The importance of YAC is why Eli's throws should have been better on those tipped balls as Bill Walsh would attest to. You should really just read.

Read. Read.

Read, Read. and Read again.

You are stumbling back after you saw the responses, Warner, Dilfer and the DROPPED PASSES article. Don't get mad. I understand that there will always be a Gumby and Lawl type of poster in every forum.

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Eli realists criticize. Eli homers turn it into hate.
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giantsfan420:

lawl:

bflo23:

lawl:

they were even less experienced in 2009 and he had a much better year in 2009 when compared to 2010

So much for that theory

Respond to hdkamin's youtube comment.

bottom line is, eli manning is elite and half these passes were dropped because of the inexperience of the receivers. now the receivers have gained their experience and learned, and we have the best triple threat in all of football. there's no other qb in the nfl that id rather have than eli.

hdkamin

I just did....

Our WRs had less experience in 09 than they did in '10 yet Eli played better in the 2009 season.

The guy is an idiot.

I can find a bunch of random folks to say Eli sucks if you'd like? It'd be just as dumb.

How about you try and maintain your own argument instead of having some random person try and make one for you?

um thats arguable lawl. are u seriously gonna not mention steve smith and the 109 receptions? it wasnt a coincidence they both made the probowl that year. i think the fact smith wasnt as good a YAC guy as cruz actually almost padded eli's stats bc when we'd score it was usually a multiple 3rd down conversion drive to 3rd and smith as opposed to the big play tds we've grown accustomed to.

It's not arguable. Experience in the league is absolutely not arguable. It is what it is.

In 09 our  WRs were going into their 3rd year, 2nd year and rookie year.

in '10 our WRs were going into their 4th year, 3rd year and 2nd year.

They were an absolutely more experienced group in '10 when compared to '09.

No subjectivity in the matter at all.

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bflo23:

lawl:

I'm not backpedaling at all.

You're the one that asked me to respond to it and I did. Very directly and succinctly. You on the other hand, deflected and didn't respond. Hmmm, wonder why?

The importance of YAC is why Eli's throws should have been better on those tipped balls as Bill Walsh would attest to. You should really just read.

Read. Read.

Read, Read. and Read again.

You are stumbling back after you saw the responses, Warner, Dilfer and the DROPPED PASSES article. Don't get mad. I understand that there will always be a Gumby and Lawl type of poster in every forum.

Ah, yes. Continue to deflect.

You refuse to respond simply because you have no response.

I have never stumbled or changed my thought process.

Continue to deflect. There isn't now, never has been nor will there ever be any real substance in any of your posts. And thats ok, I understand that there will always be a bflo23 type of poster in every forum.

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bflo23:

Lawl said 24 of the 25 interceptions were Eli's fault. What do you think? Check out the link. #1 Eli hater's (you all know who he is) response doesn't count.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tUsUoMIHZc

I blame every Pick he threw on Erni Accorsi..If he would have just kept Rivers none of those turnovers would have occured.

lawl:

Ah, yes. Continue to deflect.

You refuse to respond simply because you have no response.

I have never stumbled or changed my thought process.

Continue to deflect. There isn't now, never has been nor will there ever be any real substance in any of your posts. And thats ok, I understand that there will always be a bflo23 type of poster in every forum.

Deflect what? I was just joking about YAC. In case you didn't know, the thread is about interceptions. There is only one clown talking about 1 interception that was the receivers fault. Go listen to Warner, go read many posts, go read the article. Stop crying that there aren't many people saying it was 24 interceptions were Eli's fault..... If it makes you feel better, there was that one poster who said 27 interceptions. I will listen to tons of other people and more importantly Warner more than a flag football know it all "QB".

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allentown PA:

 I blame every Pick he threw on Erni Accorsi..If he would have just kept Rivers none of those turnovers would have occured.

Giants robbed the Chargers with that trade.

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Eli realists criticize. Eli homers turn it into hate.
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bflo23:

lawl:

Ah, yes. Continue to deflect.

You refuse to respond simply because you have no response.

I have never stumbled or changed my thought process.

Continue to deflect. There isn't now, never has been nor will there ever be any real substance in any of your posts. And thats ok, I understand that there will always be a bflo23 type of poster in every forum.

Deflect what? I was just joking about YAC. In case you didn't know, the thread is about interceptions. There is only one clown talking about 1 interception that was the receivers fault. Go listen to Warner, go read many posts, go read the article. Stop crying that there aren't many people saying it was 24 interceptions were Eli's fault..... If it makes you feel better, there was that one poster who said 27 interceptions. I will listen to tons of other people and more importantly Warner more than a flag football know it all "QB".

Jesus *** Christ.

I'm going to say it one final time. For the FIFTH *** TIME

I never said the interceptions were Eli's fault, I said he made a bad pass on those plays. I also have said many many many times that the WRs also made a bad play on those interceptions because they didnt catch it when they should have.

TWO players can make a mistake on the same play.

 

 

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