Phil Simms: "No, Eli Is Not One Of The Elites....."

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Originally Posted by Rat_bastich

All of Simm's receivers are by what today's standards would be possession receivers. They caught the ball but usually didn't do a whole lot with it afterwards. They were not YAC guys for sure. I agree with you.

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However his TE was. Mark Bavarro was a big YAC guy. If Eli were on that team as QB instead of Phil, Mark Bavarro might have had Gronkowski type of numbers.

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Originally Posted by BuffyBlueII

During the 2007 season, Eli Manning had a shoulder injury and they wanted him to sit 3-4 games to rest it and he refused.

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Who is "they".
The only thing that happened there is that the injury was misreported by Mortenson.

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Originally Posted by Morehead State

Who is "they".
The only thing that happened there is that the injury was misreported by Mortenson.

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The injury wasnt misreported... the time away he would need was.

Eli is an Elite pocket passer but all qbs need talent around them so Simms is wrong to me.

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Originally Posted by Ruttiger711

The injury wasnt misreported... the time away he would need was.

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I disagree. They reported that he couldn't throw the ball with that injury. It wasn't a serious injury at all. I', not taking anything away from Eli because I'm sure it was something he had to deal with. But if he could throw the ball (which he could) I expect our QB to play.
Do you disagree?

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Originally Posted by Morehead State

I disagree. They reported that he couldn't throw the ball with that injury. It wasn't a serious injury at all. I', not taking anything away from Eli because I'm sure it was something he had to deal with. But if he could throw the ball (which he could) I expect our QB to play.
Do you disagree?

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oh definitely I would expect the same... Its not like he broke his pinky.

I dont remember the report of him not being able to throw, just that Mortensen said he could be out 4 even 6 weeks before actually even knowing the extent of the injury. I think he was reporting this the next day.

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Originally Posted by Ruttiger711

oh definitely I would expect the same... Its not like he broke his pinky.

I dont remember the report of him not being able to throw, just that Mortensen said he could be out 4 even 6 weeks before actually even knowing the extent of the injury. I think he was reporting this the next day.

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Again...it was bad reporting. Forgetting Mortenson, the injury wasn't serious if he could throw the ball normally which he could. No it wasn't a pinky, but it also wasn't a Jack Youngblood broken leg either.

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Originally Posted by Morehead State

Again...it was bad reporting. Forgetting Mortenson, the injury wasn't serious if he could throw the ball normally which he could. No it wasn't a pinky, but it also wasn't a Jack Youngblood broken leg either.

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BTW...a broken pinky on his passing hand would have probably kept him out.

So is it official?

Simms will hopefully no longer be announcing Giant games? If he does I dont' want to hear him say a single good thing about Eli.


OMFG you know what my reply just reminded me about... I had a dream last night. And I think it was Lincoln from Prison Break I somehow met...but the guy kept telling me he was Kerry Collins. He wouldn't give it up. I was like are you a drunk? Wheres the 5 o clock shadow? Are you really Kerry Collins, gtfo. THERES NO WAY YOU'RE KERRY COLLINS! And he was just like...yes man, yes I'm Kerry Collins whats the big deal? It was the strangest thing ever. hahaha

People shouldn't hate on Sims cause what he said about Eli. Simms was a former retired qb and Eli is the current qb. He hasn't retired and what if he went to another team and said somthing you didn't like about Simms?