THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

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[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
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I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
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WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
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Maybe #10. At best.</p>


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stop it

Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

Eli - Rivers - Ben

nobody else even in the conversation

i'll give u 8 at worst
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Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</p>


Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</p>


Stop being so "Matt-like".</p>


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GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

ur on crack
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Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</p>


9 + 6 + 5= 20</p>


Eli = 25</p>


Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was unacceptable.</p>


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your strengeth of schedule was a brutal point...

ELi had 25 and how many were off of WRs hands and how many were due to wrong routes being run by young receivers

understand the offense and what its asking our QBs and WRs to do...

Then couple in the loss of WRs and having guys in the street come out and play

but besides all of that, if u think qouting Eli taking the blame some how reaffirms your point then not only do u apparently know less about our offense than i thought but Eli in general
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What I think is that 25 picks sucks. Every QB has guys deflect balls that get picked. Ryan threw 9 picks. Freeman threw 6. Its not like its close. Even if I give you the point (which I don't) that 7 or 8 balls deflected and were not on Eli, thats still 3 times as many picks as Freeman and twice as many as Ryan.</p>


Turnovers kill a teams chances of winning. Protecting the ball is one of the most important thing a QB <u>must do</u>.</p>


<font size="4">Eli failed.</font></p>


Lets hope he refocuses his efforts this season and places a higher priority on ball protection. He was reckless with it last year.</p>


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i agree turnovers kill

nobody has nearly as many or blatant tips as eli last year. Not many teams run these stupid option read offense to the degrees we do

You failed
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Did Mark Brunnell ever throw 25 picks in Gilbride's system? How about Warren Moon?</p>


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oh, how lovely that u would even bring that up

90 - Moon 13 INTs
91 - Moon 21 INTs
92 - Moon 12 INTs
93 - Moon 21 INTs
95 - Brunell/Beaurline 14 INTs
96- Brunell 20 INTs

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[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
[/quote]
I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
[/quote]

WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
[/quote]</p>


Maybe #10. At best.</p>


[/quote]

stop it

Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

Eli - Rivers - Ben

nobody else even in the conversation

i'll give u 8 at worst
[/quote]</p>


Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</p>


Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</p>


Stop being so "Matt-like".</p>


[/quote]

GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

ur on crack
[/quote]</p>


Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</p>


9 + 6 + 5= 20</p>


Eli = 25</p>


Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was <font color="#0000ff">unacceptable</font>.</p>


[/quote] sure it is but areyou judging him on one stat one year? I like Davens list but I would put rogers at 2the guy can make something out of nothing[/quote]</p>


I'm not judging him on that by itself. I saw the old Eli last season. I saw a reckless Eli. I saw a guy who threw the ball up for grabs when he was under pressure.</p>


Its not just the stats. Its the lack of judgement. Its the bad decision making.</p>


<font size="4">Throw the friggin ball away once in a while for God's sake.</font></p>


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that taking the sack thing isn't what playmakers do

and u laugh when I say hes a gunslinger

more farvish than anyone in the league. Hes a ballsy guy

i wish we can throw u away every once in a while
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You are confusing "gunslinger" with "stupid".</p>


"Ballsy" is standing in the pocket and taking the hit to wait for a guy to break open. "Ballsy" is taking the sack in order to prevent a turnover.</p>


"Ballsy" is not chucking it into coverage and ducking out of the way in the face of pressure.</p>[/quote]

sure i am -- just like u are confusing Moons And Brunells performances under Gilbride as the OC

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I have to go and mow my lawn.</p>


All you "its never Eli's fault" types think hard about what you've done.</p>[/quote]

i'd run and hide after u gave me ammo with Warrne Moon and Mark Brunell as well

destroying these eli sucks points are too easy

they really have run out of arguments that make sense

Warren Moon and Brunell both threw for 20+ ints under Gilbride LMAO

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[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
[/quote]
I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
[/quote]

WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
[/quote]</p>


Maybe #10. At best.</p>


[/quote]

stop it

Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

Eli - Rivers - Ben

nobody else even in the conversation

i'll give u 8 at worst
[/quote]</p>


Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</p>


Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</p>


Stop being so "Matt-like".</p>


[/quote]

GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

ur on crack
[/quote]</p>


Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</p>


9 + 6 + 5= 20</p>


Eli = 25</p>


Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was <font color="#0000ff">unacceptable</font>.</p>


[/quote] sure it is but areyou judging him on one stat one year? I like Davens list but I would put rogers at 2the guy can make something out of nothing[/quote]</p>


I'm not judging him on that by itself. I saw the old Eli last season. I saw a reckless Eli. I saw a guy who threw the ball up for grabs when he was under pressure.</p>


Its not just the stats. Its the lack of judgement. Its the bad decision making.</p>


<font size="4">Throw the friggin ball away once in a while for God's sake.</font></p>


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that taking the sack thing isn't what playmakers do

and u laugh when I say hes a gunslinger

more farvish than anyone in the league. Hes a ballsy guy

i wish we can throw u away every once in a while
[/quote]</p>


<u>You are confusing "gunslinger" with "stupid".</u></p>


"Ballsy" is standing in the pocket and taking the hit to wait for a guy to break open. "Ballsy" is taking the sack in order to prevent a turnover.</p>


<u>"Ballsy" is not chucking it into coverage and ducking out of the way in the face of pressure.</u></p>[/quote]lol youre so damn negative today. ITS UNBECOMING OF YOU!!
i disagree. it does take a sack to try and thread the needle in tight coverage. its not "stupid", if he completes it, hes a hero. if he doesnt hes on goes on mhs **** list.

and smart is to always throw the ball away if nothings there, which he does for the most part.

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[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
[/quote]
I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
[/quote]

WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
[/quote]</P>


Maybe #10. At best.</P>


[/quote]

stop it

Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

Eli - Rivers - Ben

nobody else even in the conversation

i'll give u 8 at worst
[/quote]</P>


Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</P>


Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</P>


Stop being so "Matt-like".</P>


[/quote]

GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

ur on crack
[/quote]</P>


Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</P>


9 + 6 + 5= 20</P>


Eli = 25</P>


Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was <FONT color=#0000ff>unacceptable</FONT>.</P>


[/quote] sure it is but areyou judging him on one stat one year? I like Davens list but I would put rogers at 2the guy can make something out of nothing[/quote]</P>


I'm not judging him on that by itself. I saw the old Eli last season. I saw a reckless Eli. I saw a guy who threw the ball up for grabs when he was under pressure.</P>


Its not just the stats. Its the lack of judgement. Its the bad decision making.</P>


<FONT size=4>Throw the friggin ball away once in a while for God's sake.</FONT></P>[/quote] Sure and maybe he will in the future I would hope he learned something from last year the whole team for that matter...I'm letting last year go in hopes of a better year this year...Seems to me part of Eli's problem with fans, is his demeanor/personality hence thename calling and what not of him.those people will never like Eli... imo

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I have to go and mow my lawn.</p>


All you "its never Eli's fault" types think hard about what you've done.</p>[/quote]is that why youre so angry today? mrs mh making you do your chores?

its true B

they say hes so lax and not fired up

then he finally says something full of confidence and he can get no credit for it...

hes always in a lose/lose situation

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I have to go and mow my lawn.</p>


All you "its never Eli's fault" types think hard about what you've done.</p>[/quote]is that why youre so angry today? mrs mh making you do your chores?
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LMAO

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I have to go and mow my lawn.</P>


All you "its never Eli's fault" types think hard about what you've done.</P>[/quote]is that why youre so angry today? mrs mh making you do your chores?
[/quote]Hahahaha