Eli goes from $9.6M in 2012 to $20.85M in 2013 against cap

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Originally Posted by AllHailEli

Then maybe the Giants can get as lucky as the Colts once he's gone, become bad and get a high pick. If not and they stay in the middle of the pack, then that would be a problem. An 8-8 or 9-7 record even if you get to the playoffs will not get you deep if you don't have a legit QB. Now we are full circle. :)

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Or we could get a really good defense and sign the next Trent Dilfer

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Originally Posted by brad

Or we could get a really good defense and sign the next Trent Dilfer

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Yeah, you will have to win 12 games though with that defense, so you really have to be an extremely good defense. That's the number of wins that Ravens team had. If you win 9-7 without a legit QB, then you are not that good of a defense to overcome the next Trent Dilfer.

And THIS is a perfect example of why I HATE restructuring/back loading contracts like this. You're going to pay the piper eventually.

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Originally Posted by RoanokeFan

But you still have to pay him a salary for those extended years. Eli is not going to agree to spreading his existing negotiated contract over more years for the same original contract amount. Suppose he's hit his prime and starts to decline?

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This is actually not true. Base salary is mostly meaningless to a player. Eli could get cut tomorrow and get nothing.

A new contract would convert his base salary into a signing bonus which is guaranteed.

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Originally Posted by JJC7301

And THIS is a perfect example of why I HATE restructuring/back loading contracts like this. You're going to pay the piper eventually.

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Yeah, but it was mostly money he was going to get anyway. The cap hit seems so meteoric because instead of being $16m or $17m in 2012 it was only just a hair under $10m.

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Originally Posted by slipknottin

This is actually not true. Base salary is mostly meaningless to a player. Eli could get cut tomorrow and get nothing.

A new contract would convert his base salary into a signing bonus which is guaranteed.

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The chances of them releasing Eli or extending him for two or three years and not giving him one more dime seem pretty remote to me. I also think Reese would be cutting his professional throat to guarantee that kind of money for any player. He will figure it out.

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Originally Posted by TheAnalyst

	Base Salary	S. Bonus	Misc. Bonus	Cap Hit
2009	7,500,000	3,100,000	3,100,000	13,700,000
2010	6,500,000	2,600,000	3,000,000	12,100,000
2011	8,500,000	2,600,000	3,000,000	14,100,000
2012	1,750,000	2,600,000	5,250,000	9,600,000
2013	13,000,000	2,600,000	5,250,000	20,850,000
2014	15,150,000	-	5,250,000	20,400,000
2015	17,000,000	-	2,750,000	19,750,000
2016	UFA

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/eli-manning/

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Major adjustments are needed if this team plans on doing anything in the next couple of seasons.

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Thats meaningless as the Giants will almost certainly ask him to restructure it to give them more cap space..... as they've done every season since he signed the deal.. Much ado about nothing.

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Originally Posted by RoanokeFan

The chances of them releasing Eli or extending him for two or three years and not giving him one more dime seem pretty remote to me. I also think Reese would be cutting his professional throat to guarantee that kind of money for any player. He will figure it out.

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But it would be adding actual money. Those are Eli's cap hit. His actual salary is far less because he took a lot of it up front and in restructures.

An extension would solve all those problems. Lower cap hit, add actual money for Eli, and keep him on the giants longer.

That's really the only option they have. Even if Eli said he would take less money that wouldn't lower the cap hit

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Originally Posted by bigblue58

Thats meaningless as the Giants will almost certainly ask him to restructure it to give them more cap space..... as they've done every season since he signed the deal.. Much ado about nothing.

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Eli only restructured once on 2012 I believe.

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Originally Posted by slipknottin

But it would be adding actual money. Those are Eli's cap hit. His actual salary is far less because he took a lot of it up front and in restructures. An extension would solve all those problems. Lower cap hit, add actual money for Eli, and keep him on the giants longer. That's really the only option they have. Even if Eli said he would take less money that wouldn't lower the cap hit

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I don't see how he'd agree to work two more years for the same amount of money but that's what I get for riding the short school bus all those years.


Some other team would gladly take on his contract and Peyton is proof you change teams and thrive.