GM Jerry Reese: Giants Will Interview Manti Te’o At NFL Scouting Combine

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12-08-2012, 03:21 PM
Cloud57

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Originally Posted by Redeyejedi

Jones drops 5 yards from the line once or twice a game. I rarely ever see him not on the line when the ball is snapped. His medical will scare the Giants away

yeah no more players with medical issues, not worth it.
12-08-2012, 04:47 PM
Eliscruzzz

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Originally Posted by slipknottin

No. His natural position is pass rusher. He rushes almost every snap.

He's not a linebacker

So what.....I still would take him over Te'O. It's not like he can't learn how to play linebacker. Sorry I don't know as much as you about the college game. I see a great player that can be a hybrid player...better??? In the SEC championship game I didn't see him rushing the passer every snap...
12-08-2012, 04:52 PM
slipknottin

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Originally Posted by Eliscruzzz

So what.....I still would take him over Te'O. It's not like he can't learn how to play linebacker. Sorry I don't know as much as you about the college game. I see a great player that can be a hybrid player...better??? In the SEC championship game I didn't see him with his hand in the dirt every snap...

Right. You see a guy lined up on the line rushing the QB every play. Wether he has his hand off the ground or not is meaningless.

And if you have a guy who is a great pass rusher generally you don't move him to a position where he doesn't rush the passer much.

For instance. Denver which runs a 4-3 drafted Von Miller. Who played a similar position to Jones, but did drop into coverage more often. Denver essentially just plays Miller at DE now. Hand up or hand down. He rushes the passer on every pass play except for the occasional zone drop (not any different than Osi or JPp dropping into coverage).

I don't dislike Jones at all. But saying he's a linebacker is simply untrue. He would have to show the ability to play there. Which he has not done in college. He is a pass rusher. That's where he plays, that's where he excels.
12-08-2012, 04:59 PM
rainierjef

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Originally Posted by Eliscruzzz

So what.....I still would take him over Te'O. It's not like he can't learn how to play linebacker. Sorry I don't know as much as you about the college game. I see a great player that can be a hybrid player...better??? In the SEC championship game I didn't see him rushing the passer every snap...

You would take jones over Te'o? how much college ball do you watch and what special insight do you have to say this? absolutely absurd and If this were to be the case Te'o would have to be suffering from an injury that would keep him off the field for a significant amount of time, talent wise just craziness.
12-08-2012, 05:09 PM
slipknottin

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Originally Posted by rainierjef

You would take jones over Te'o? how much college ball do you watch and what special insight do you have to say this? absolutely absurd and If this were to be the case Te'o would have to be suffering from an injury that would keep him off the field for a significant amount of time, talent wise just craziness.

Different types of players. Assuming the medical on Jones clears (which I doubt) I think Jones is a more valuable player than Teo. Pass rusher > non pass rusher.

And that's coming from a ND fan who loves Teo
12-08-2012, 06:31 PM
GMENAGAIN

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Originally Posted by slipknottin

Right. You see a guy lined up on the line rushing the QB every play. Wether he has his hand off the ground or not is meaningless.

And if you have a guy who is a great pass rusher generally you don't move him to a position where he doesn't rush the passer much.

For instance. Denver which runs a 4-3 drafted Von Miller. Who played a similar position to Jones, but did drop into coverage more often. Denver essentially just plays Miller at DE now. Hand up or hand down. He rushes the passer on every pass play except for the occasional zone drop (not any different than Osi or JPp dropping into coverage).

I don't dislike Jones at all. But saying he's a linebacker is simply untrue. He would have to show the ability to play there. Which he has not done in college. He is a pass rusher. That's where he plays, that's where he excels.

We could use a pass rusher with Tuck on the decline and Osi playing his last games for us . . . . .
12-08-2012, 06:47 PM
slipknottin

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Originally Posted by GMENAGAIN

We could use a pass rusher with Tuck on the decline and Osi playing his last games for us . . . . .

I agree with that. There are quite a few good pass rushers in this draft.
12-08-2012, 08:12 PM
Cloud57

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Originally Posted by slipknottin

I agree with that. There are quite a few good pass rushers in this draft.

A pass rusher who can also stop the run
12-08-2012, 08:46 PM
slipknottin

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Originally Posted by Cloud57

A pass rusher who can also stop the run

Generally, anyone who is talented enough to be a great pass rusher has the skill set to stop the run, its just a matter of technique and being willing.

And of course size is always important. Generally a guy who is under 260 pounds is not going to be great against the run from the DE spot.
12-09-2012, 11:13 AM
Redeyejedi

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Originally Posted by slipknottin

Generally, anyone who is talented enough to be a great pass rusher has the skill set to stop the run, its just a matter of technique and being willing.

And of course size is always important. Generally a guy who is under 260 pounds is not going to be great against the run from the DE spot.

The Giants need to draft lineman on both sides of the ball. Improve the lines everything else will fall into place. I could even see a DT since Marvin Austin is a bust

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