Ziggy Anash

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Originally Posted by TheEnigma

Would depend on the team really. Some 3-4 DEs sit around 300 like the Steelers while others are around the 285-290 range. Don't recall which thread but I mentioned how good of a replacement he could be for Justin Smith of the 49ers once he moves on to retirement. He could play strongside DE in a 4-3 too but I just don't see him being a team's primary pass rusher.

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Yes strongside 4/3 LDE is his most natural position. If anything this guy might want to loose 10 pounds not gain 15-30. He's a natuarl athlete who had the ability to be a sprinter in track and a high level basketball player, not necesarrily a background that suggests he's at his best carrying around 300 lbs, his body would not be used to it

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Originally Posted by juice33s

Yes strongside 4/3 LDE is his most natural position. If anything this guy might want to loose 10 pounds not gain 15-30. He's a natuarl athlete who had the ability to be a sprinter in track and a high level basketball player, not necesarrily a background that suggests he's at his best carrying around 300 lbs, his body would not be used to it

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Yeah 300 would be too much but I think he'd be fine around the 280 range or even losing more weight like you suggest for a 4-3. I think we seem to both agree that he should play on the defensive line as opposed to standing up to rush the passer. That would also bring additional duties while playing in space which usually (does depend on the team) can include more snaps to drop back in coverage. I think BYU did a fine job utilizing the kids abilities myself with the defense they used but others might disagree.

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Originally Posted by Redeyejedi

I really wonder if Walt actually watches the games. I dont get how he could say Ansah was an Outside LB at BYU. If anything he was an end but in reality he didnt really have 1 spot. He lined up everywhere from 9 to 0 across the line.

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Walt Cherpinsky is not a good scout by any stretch. He built a successful website by quantity rich web SEO opposed to quality analysis.

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Originally Posted by TheEnigma

Would depend on the team really. Some 3-4 DEs sit around 300 like the Steelers while others are around the 285-290 range. Don't recall which thread but I mentioned how good of a replacement he could be for Justin Smith of the 49ers once he moves on to retirement. He could play strongside DE in a 4-3 too but I just don't see him being a team's primary pass rusher.

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Ive said this a few times but he reminds me more of Coples than JPP in type of player. Coples played at 285-290 last year about what Ansah is. Now Ansah is a little more fluid in the open field but in terms of flexibility and specific versatility "That might only make sense to me" similar players.

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Originally Posted by Redeyejedi

Ive said this a few times but he reminds me more of Coples than JPP in type of player. Coples played at 285-290 last year about what Ansah is. Now Ansah is a little more fluid in the open field but in terms of flexibility and specific versatility "That might only make sense to me" similar players.

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I think people refer to him like a JPP more so because of his limited time playing the sport and his raw athleticism. Comparing him to couples, I never looked at that comparison, but then again I didn't pay much attention to couples to begin with.

i dont keep up with prospects as well as u guys, how do u guys rank ansah compared to mingo? i been watching some of him since redeye posted some clips. he seems like he'd be the perfect replacement for Osi initially as the pass rush specialist while he's groomed into being a complete DE. I'd almost rather Mingo...is that stupid?

If 18 other GM's let the Giants have this guy, they are digging their own graves. JPP was one of the top 3 most dominant defensive lineman in the league in 2011 and as a result, received double and triple teams all year in 2012. With Ansah playing LE opposite JPP, you take one of the worst defenses in the league and make them easily top 10. Draft a solid MLB and Corner and it's top 5.

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Originally Posted by WiIdcat

If 18 other GM's let the Giants have this guy, they are digging their own graves. JPP was one of the top 3 most dominant defensive lineman in the league in 2011 and as a result, received double and triple teams all year in 2012. With Ansah playing LE opposite JPP, you take one of the worst defenses in the league and make them easily top 10. Draft a solid MLB and Corner and it's top 5.

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I don't think ansah will have that immediate of an impact but I think solidifying the MLB spot and some improved play by web and hosley plus some new blood at corner can be enough.

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Originally Posted by giantsfan420

i dont keep up with prospects as well as u guys, how do u guys rank ansah compared to mingo? i been watching some of him since redeye posted some clips. he seems like he'd be the perfect replacement for Osi initially as the pass rush specialist while he's groomed into being a complete DE. I'd almost rather Mingo...is that stupid?

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Completely different players. I think Mingo needs to be a LB primarily in the.NFL. He has to much speed and agility not to play in space. He could play some end in pass rushing situations. Ansah on the other hand is a Strongside end and more than likely a DT in pass rushing situations . Both have benefits and both have their drawbacks both have lots of untapped physical talent. Mingo is probably a better fit for the Giants simply because Kiwi and Tuck could both play Strongside end. Mingo could move into Kiwi's LB spot and provide a big upgrade in speed and agility.

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Originally Posted by Mlerman17

I don't think ansah will have that immediate of an impact but I think solidifying the MLB spot and some improved play by web and hosley plus some new blood at corner can be enough.

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He definitely won't have an immediate impact with the Giants, see the Wilson experiment, but I'm starting to like him more and more after watching the JPP highlights of 2011. HE SEEMS LIKE AN EXACT CLONE! Other posters have made the point that Van Noy had 13 sacks and Ziggy lead the team with 8 QB pressures so although he hasn't had the hard stats, he definitely made a presence. Too bad he won't be there anymore.