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  1. Patience was required in 2007, but by mid 2009 it...

    Patience was required in 2007, but by mid 2009 it was clear what teams would look like under this regime. The fact that we are even discussing this in 2014 says it all....
  2. Kiwi should have been fazed out 5 years ago, I...

    Kiwi should have been fazed out 5 years ago, I cannot see any reason he has stayed on the field so long.
  3. It is not bipolar to recognize obvious trends...

    It is not bipolar to recognize obvious trends that date back to 2007 (and some trends like poor ST's and LB development which date back over 2 decades). I am saying the homers are blinded by 2 SB...
  4. Unintentional comedy at its finest. This thread...

    Unintentional comedy at its finest. This thread is Groundhog Day for the homers.
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    Don't tell the homers, they are clouded by the "2...

    Don't tell the homers, they are clouded by the "2 SB's" argument as to why these guys are all Hall of Famers.
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    I agree, I have no idea why he was signed. It...

    I agree, I have no idea why he was signed. It seems Reese woke up and realized 4 years too late that the line stunk and he went fishing...
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    At Redskins and home vs. Cowboys are winnable,...

    At Redskins and home vs. Cowboys are winnable, plus one more miracle so I'll say 3-6.
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    What are the chances the Giants would hire a...

    What are the chances the Giants would hire a progressive coach like that?
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    He deserved to be fired after the 2009 debacle. ...

    He deserved to be fired after the 2009 debacle. 3-4 more years? Can we finally discuss that not all the injuries can be attributed to "bad luck". The history of some of these players (ie...
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    You are really fishing, what have either of these...

    You are really fishing, what have either of these guys done here? One is injured and the other should be replaced by a rookie.
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    This was a dumb signing from the get go, despite...

    This was a dumb signing from the get go, despite the brevity of its length. Why are we continually taking flyers on players with injury histories? This goes far beyond mere "bad luck".
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    Sure, and we are all thankful for the 2 amazing...

    Sure, and we are all thankful for the 2 amazing runs but awaiting miracles within mediocre fits and starts is not much of an organizational strategy.
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    Exactly

    Exactly
  14. At what point should TC be on the hot seat? Mid...

    At what point should TC be on the hot seat? Mid 2009.
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    There are reasons why receivers don't want to go...

    There are reasons why receivers don't want to go all out for this team...it has been obvious for many years.
  16. Don't forget traveling across country and after...

    Don't forget traveling across country and after playing on Mon night.
  17. "Aggressive and creative" are among the last...

    "Aggressive and creative" are among the last words I would use to describe PF or TC. The players drafted by Reese do not remotely fit the schemes which does not help. This schism has been there...
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    What a shocker, when TC is forced to play a...

    What a shocker, when TC is forced to play a younger player because there isn't a longstanding incompetent veteran on the roster positive things happen at the position.
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    Tom Coughlin is the epitome of vanilla, stubborn...

    Tom Coughlin is the epitome of vanilla, stubborn and mediocre.
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    Eli has been winning games in the 4th to cover up...

    Eli has been winning games in the 4th to cover up for this incompetent GM/coach tandem all along. Now that he isn't doing it the slew of people who know nothing about football are searching for...
  21. The hot seat should have erupted after the 2009...

    The hot seat should have erupted after the 2009 season, regardless of the 2nd SB. TC is has he has always been, a mediocre coach who "led" 2 mediocre teams to the SB thanks to a handful of other...
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    The Giants have been terrible at 3rd and long for...

    The Giants have been terrible at 3rd and long for a LONG time.
  23. That would be the best thing that could happen. ...

    That would be the best thing that could happen. Another 7-9 season and Coughlin and Reese will expect their jobs back.
  24. David Shaw or Kevin Sumlin. The Giants need to...

    David Shaw or Kevin Sumlin. The Giants need to fast forward 40 years from the Coughlin era to the present.
  25. Jesse Armstead was the last competent LB drafted...

    Jesse Armstead was the last competent LB drafted by the Giants. Need I say more?
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