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    Agreed on this Harooni, garbage TD's count, so do...

    Agreed on this Harooni, garbage TD's count, so do INT's.
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    The unprepared back-up QB only threw for 167yards...

    The unprepared back-up QB only threw for 167yards and completed less than half his passes. Team got most of it's yards on it's one sustained scoring drive on penalties.

    You're acting like he was...
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    Is this an extension of the other Eli thread?...

    Is this an extension of the other Eli thread? Even in that thread, I don't think anyone really blamed Eli for the lost.

    They just think that if he were Rogers or Brees, or really anyone but Eli,...
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    Yeah, that's why those guys are considered great,...

    Yeah, that's why those guys are considered great, HOF QB's. Why is it that if Eli isn't as good as those very Elite QB's it automatically means he's a failure?

    We don't treat any other position...
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    You're exactly right, all those guys that were...

    You're exactly right, all those guys that were here in the past went on afterwards to snag everything thrown to them....oh wait.
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    [QUOTE=TheEnigma;1267742]Maybe celebrating is the...

    [QUOTE=TheEnigma;1267742]Maybe celebrating is the wrong term but people are more willing to separate Eli from the rest of the team when it is convenient to do so and gloss away the fact that this is...
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    I think the D overall played well enough for the...

    I think the D overall played well enough for the team to win. They gave up the early drive (which wasn't that impressive, I think ARZ got most of their yards on penalties), but they helped the team...
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    Not sure how much more Eli could have done to...

    Not sure how much more Eli could have done to help win the game. You're taking a shot at him for making so much money and not winning the game, but what more could he have done?

    His passes were...
  9. lol funny, This just in, AP is reporting that...

    lol funny,

    This just in, AP is reporting that Ms. Skinner allegedly KNEW about her husband having seen the elevator video back in April and is only increasing her penalty out of public reaction....
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    Sigh, you do realize that one of the key...

    Sigh, you do realize that one of the key components of the Tampa 2 zone is that the CB's jam the WRs' at the line right? One of the reasons Megatron had such a good game was b/c DRC whiffed on his...
  11. I don't understand why people are now shocked at...

    I don't understand why people are now shocked at having seen the video. When the report first came out that Rice hit his wife and you saw him dragging her out of the elevator, what did you think the...
  12. That was definitely on Brown, he way over pursued...

    That was definitely on Brown, he way over pursued to the spot b/c he was watching the QB and ended up overrunning Johnson and running into DRC.

    Even if he hadn't run into DRC he would never have...
  13. Brown missed a lot of coverages in 2012 as well,...

    Brown missed a lot of coverages in 2012 as well, but he made up for it with the turnovers. One game isn't enough to say he can't still do that, but he can't be leaving guys that wide open.

    And I...
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    [QUOTE=Roosevelt;1258783]With the way the offense...

    [QUOTE=Roosevelt;1258783]With the way the offense is extremely out of sync in the passing game the only way to salvage the first half of this season is to have the D step up and it needs to be now.
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    Half the team wasn't here in 2013, and neither...

    Half the team wasn't here in 2013, and neither was half the coaching staff. So for those guys it's just been one game.

    Stevie Brown and DRC were aweful last night, did that start in 2013?

    The...
  16. Which proves only one thing. Eli isn't as good as...

    Which proves only one thing. Eli isn't as good as Tom Brady. Is the new standard that if our QB isn't as good as a HOF'er we should dump him?

    Is he playing bad? Yeah. I thought we already...
  17. They ran a couple of pretty successful screens....

    They ran a couple of pretty successful screens. One to JJ got a nice gain on 1st down. Also had a good one to Jennings early in the game. One to Randle basically went for no gain. And I think we had...
  18. Yeah JWill was bad last night. DET made a point...

    Yeah JWill was bad last night. DET made a point to attack him and get their RBs' 1 on 1 with him late in the game and it worked.
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    Name me one QB whose OL played as badly as our...

    Name me one QB whose OL played as badly as our did last night yet won this week?

    Look at what SEA did to Rodgers on Thursday with their DL dominating their OL. And Rogers is one of the best, and...
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    With the way Suh and Fairly were dominating...

    With the way Suh and Fairly were dominating inside there was no way they were able to slide held outside. It's one of the reasons you saw a lot of two backs standing next to Eli in the shotgun.
  21. Dunno why people are killing Eli so much in this....

    Dunno why people are killing Eli so much in this. He wasn't good, but he was far from the problem last night, unless he's just not communicating the signals well with his receivers.

    People are...
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    Yeah, that stuck out to me too, especially since...

    Yeah, that stuck out to me too, especially since those big guys can get winded pretty quickly.

    I guess they feel they can also use Ayers inside to give the other guys breathers.
  23. That and when you've been able to have success...

    That and when you've been able to have success with guys like Boss, Ballard and then MB in consecutive years, it's easy to get the mentality that TE was a plug and play position in the offense.
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    That's not necessarily true. There have been...

    That's not necessarily true. There have been plenty of 4-12 teams that have had talent. They just didn't have a good QB and/or suffered a lot of injuries.
  25. So, what's your solution to the problem of JJ...

    So, what's your solution to the problem of JJ being unable to produce on the outside?

    Do you shift Cruz, one of the best slot WRs' in the NFL to the outside when they're in 3WR sets?

    You can...
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