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    He is a good QB same way Chad Pennington was a...

    He is a good QB same way Chad Pennington was a good QB. He's just not a 15 million dollar QB. That being said, what choice do the Chiefs have? If they let him walk, they can set the organisation...
  2. Here you go. To be fair i threw out Eli's 2013...

    Here you go. To be fair i threw out Eli's 2013 season and Ben's worst season post 2007. I ignored everything 2004-2007 since you already acknowledge that Ben was more consistent. And also to be...
  3. Do it week by week. Not year by year.

    Do it week by week. Not year by year.
  4. Personally, I think mook is awesome. He at least...

    Personally, I think mook is awesome. He at least has the balls to come out say "eff you guys. Eli is my boy and i'm going to defend him to my very last dying breath no matter what numbers or proof...
  5. All you have to do is look at QB rating their...

    All you have to do is look at QB rating their entire careers on a WEEK by WEEK basis. And also keep in mind that Rivers and Ben the same TDs and Yards with a season (and in the case of Rivers more)...
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    Who cares. The guy helped us win to 2 SBs. I'm...

    Who cares. The guy helped us win to 2 SBs. I'm not going to say he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I'm glad we have him.
  7. His overall game. Die-Hard scoffs at QB Rating,...

    His overall game. Die-Hard scoffs at QB Rating, but i don't. It's not the end all and be all, but it's the only metric that we have and a fairly good indicative at that. A QB rating difference of...
  8. Fine. Compare him to Ben. I'd say Rivers, but...

    Fine. Compare him to Ben. I'd say Rivers, but you would all say that he plays in nice weather so it's not fair. If I mentioned Romo, you'd say he plays in a dome.

    And who needs to "devalue" him...
  9. Since we all seem to agree that Eli and Ben are...

    Since we all seem to agree that Eli and Ben are on the same tier, compare their week to week numbers. Compare how many back to back good games they've had. Compare how many back to back to back...
  10. And here's the heart of the Eli debate. Talent...

    And here's the heart of the Eli debate. Talent wise, he CAN be a brilliant passer. Has has done it. He just isn't consistent. IMO, Eli is better than Kurt Warner ever was. Kurt made a living off...
  11. All those tipped INTs he had a couple years ago? ...

    All those tipped INTs he had a couple years ago? Most of them were on short patterns that were thrown either too high or behind. It's not once in a while for Eli. The dude just isn't accurate. ...
  12. Eli also is inaccurate. The WRs should have...

    Eli also is inaccurate. The WRs should have caught them, but Eli can throw some terrible balls on easy passes. You don't see that out of Rodgers and Peyton.
  13. That's actually pretty funny. Plax only played...

    That's actually pretty funny. Plax only played 10 games that year? I thought it was more.
  14. i know you're going to defend Eli to the bitter...

    i know you're going to defend Eli to the bitter end, but let's not make stuff up.

    And really, a lot of people are saying, "when Eli gets a running", or "when Eli gets an OL" he's going to tear it...
  15. In 2008, Eli had 2 1k yard rushers and Plax. How...

    In 2008, Eli had 2 1k yard rushers and Plax. How did he do?

    Then you can say in 2011, he was awesome.

    Eli's one big enigma.
  16. Eli's the only clutch QB that is merely a "good"...

    Eli's the only clutch QB that is merely a "good" QB. His entire career is an exception.
  17. that's a little nuts (Eli not being on the list)...

    that's a little nuts (Eli not being on the list) , but to be fair not all of romo's meltdowns are his fault. If a QB throws a game ending INT but your defense gives up 34 points while you pass for 4...
  18. who?

    who?
  19. do you think Eli would have any scrutiny if he...

    do you think Eli would have any scrutiny if he performed like a top QB of his era? say, Aaron Rodgers? Eli brought it upon himself with his play.
  20. Absolutely. Last year was on him. To however,...

    Absolutely. Last year was on him. To however, discredit him for everything else he's done in the past (as some have done), is stretching it.
  21. Outside of obvious trolls, i doubt any Giants fan...

    Outside of obvious trolls, i doubt any Giants fan wants anyone else. There will always be better QBs, but Eli helped our team win 2 SBs. Can't argue with that.
  22. I'd imagine he'd be along the lines of the Boley...

    I'd imagine he'd be along the lines of the Boley signing. Overpaid for sure, but so are other free agents. But he'll be solid for us. Not spectacular. Not worth this money. But he'll make our...
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    The guy was hilarious. Remember a while back...

    The guy was hilarious. Remember a while back when all the Mods had names like Mod N, Mod C, etc? Giggles made a name called Mod G. Him and his one liners were classic.
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    Anything Giggles. He was awesome.

    Anything Giggles. He was awesome.
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    I found the 250 page Ben is better than Eli...

    I found the 250 page Ben is better than Eli thread that Giggles created a while back. That guy was a legend.
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