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  1. I am a Giants fan. I am 49 years old. I have...

    I am a Giants fan. I am 49 years old. I have watched a lot of football. I used to believe in and defend the players on my favorite teams, like a typical homer. I grew up. I only allow evidence to...
  2. Indy>Giants. Luck>Eli. A healthy Nicks should...

    Indy>Giants. Luck>Eli. A healthy Nicks should have a very nice year with a top 10 QB (who may be top 10 all time in terms of talent). Beckham will have to learn to play like he's 7'2" to catch Eli's...
  3. His 171 ints and career passer rating of 81.2...

    His 171 ints and career passer rating of 81.2 agree with me. Twice he led the league in ints. His lack of ability in the red zone is laughable. I just form my opinions based on the evidence. Reality...
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    Beckham is going to look awesome when he has to...

    Beckham is going to look awesome when he has to use all of his vertical ability to barely get a finger tip on Eli's overthrows. Were there not any 7'2" WR's? No?
  5. You forgot to put the original post in red. Y.A....

    You forgot to put the original post in red. Y.A. Tittle, Fran Tarkenton, Phil Simms, Kurt Warner were all much better than Eli. Of course Tarkenton & Warner had their best moments in other uni's. The...
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    Where did I say, or even imply that I would have...

    Where did I say, or even imply that I would have wanted the Giants to crap the bed? I always want the Giants to win. This team needs smart leadership. I don't feel that they have that right now. Eli...
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    PUTRID!!!

    PUTRID!!!
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    How that Kool-Aid taste. This team is horrible....

    How that Kool-Aid taste. This team is horrible. Bill Parcells is a very wise man, but his "you are what your record says you are", does not apply here. This team has deep systemic problems. A little...
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    So, he has turned into one of the best...

    So, he has turned into one of the best statistical QB's in the history of the NFL? Awesome, I'll take it!
  10. It would be insane. The Giants are stuck with...

    It would be insane. The Giants are stuck with him. I mean stuck in the worst possible way. His luck has run out, we are left with Eli as he really is, a bottom 8 QB.
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    There is no way any of those three QB's would...

    There is no way any of those three QB's would have the weakness of personality to just go along with Gilbrides schemes and play calling. They would all step up and truly lead. Eli should have total...
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    Most of what you said is true. That aside, Eli...

    Most of what you said is true. That aside, Eli throws a "loose" spiral that doesn't cut through the wind. His passes, when he is not under ridiculous pressure, have been off target far too often for...
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    Is that 7 points per quarter? Not favoring...

    Is that 7 points per quarter? Not favoring Seattle by 17 or more is an insult. Seattle is great, the Giants are putrid.
  14. Because Eli won those SB's all by himself! He hit...

    Because Eli won those SB's all by himself! He hit Tom Brady 20 something times to keep NE 30 points under their scoring average! HE won those SB's! When the Giants lose it's somebody else's fault,...
  15. Let's face it, this game started with the Skins...

    Let's face it, this game started with the Skins looking like a 9-2 team. They sliced up the Giants to a 14-0 lead. These guys are salesman. They have to sell the audience on the notion that they are...
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    The 70's called...

    ...it wants it's pathetic, non-competitive, Giants back. This is a historically bad team.
  17. I agree with leaving Eli out of the top 5. I'd...

    I agree with leaving Eli out of the top 5. I'd put Webster, Cruz, O'Hara, Burress, Steve Smith, and Bradshaw ahead of Eli as well.
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    Seriously, why would the Giants even consider...

    Seriously, why would the Giants even consider replacing one of the 8 worst QB's in the league? He shares the same last name as one of the greatest QB's in NFL history. Don't you know that? Have you...
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    He is as bad as he has ever been in his career....

    He is as bad as he has ever been in his career. He is a bottom 8 QB.
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    Because he is a bottom 3 QB right now. You are...

    Because he is a bottom 3 QB right now. You are nuts.
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    Using always or never when countering someones...

    Using always or never when countering someones contention is a logical breach. Stop that. Sports discussions that don't allow the "what if's" are not worth having. Sports are trivial entertainment....
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    His last name carries a lot of weight. Because of...

    His last name carries a lot of weight. Because of Peyton, the Mannings are NFL royalty. Eli has been an overall mediocre QB throughout his career. The '07 MVP was a gift. The D put Brady on his ***...
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    Telling stat of the 1st half Giants 18 yds,...

    Telling stat of the 1st half Giants 18 yds, Panthers 17 pts.
  24. Well, now that Peyton has "solved" the Giants D,...

    Well, now that Peyton has "solved" the Giants D, I'm going to do some work around the house. Enjoy the misery.
  25. Final score prediction 31-9.

    Final score prediction 31-9.
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