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  1. And you know this...how? Because one scout said...

    And you know this...how? Because one scout said something? Im not saying he definately was a top 10 pick, but saying something is definative based on something one scout on one team said is...
  2. So your saying because it's not a crime that it's...

    So your saying because it's not a crime that it's okay? That this behavior shouldn't be considered when a team drafts him? The guy made up a girl, then killed her. Then played it up in the media...
  3. Kiper still had him at 8 yesterday IIRC. Not to...

    Kiper still had him at 8 yesterday IIRC. Not to say Kiper would be right, but I've seen other mocks with him in the top 10 as well. Obviously this is not an exact science. Ray Lewis wasn't Ray...
  4. Normally stupid behavior from a college student...

    Normally stupid behavior from a college student comes in the form of smoking pot, or getting drunk in public or getting in a fight. This is beyond that stuff IMO. A MLB is typically the QB for the...
  5. Oh I think there was very real possibility he...

    Oh I think there was very real possibility he would go top 10 prior to all this. Of course we haven't had the combine yet and if he runs a 4.8/40 then he was never going to be drafted that high. ...
  6. He is either extremely guilty or the stupidest...

    He is either extremely guilty or the stupidest person alive. Either way it's not looking good for him.
  7. I think he drops lower. It's possible he gets...

    I think he drops lower. It's possible he gets snapped up mid to late first, but I think this story is going to get much worse for him.
  8. He was a fringe top 12 pick before this happened....

    He was a fringe top 12 pick before this happened. People were talking top 10 for him at one point, but he was exposed a bit in the national championship game. If this story is true he will drop...
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    Football is a macho culture. He proclaimed that...

    Football is a macho culture. He proclaimed that this girl was the "love of his life". So in the future when he is a famous football player but not linked to any wife/girlfriend he can claim "I did...
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    This goes beyond being stupid. This is insidious.

    This goes beyond being stupid. This is insidious.
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    Theory #1: He did it for sympathy. In the days...

    Theory #1: He did it for sympathy. In the days leading up to the Heisman, all you would hear about is the incredible story of him playing after the death of his grandmother and girlfriend.
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  12. LOL. If he is involved in any way, the Giants...

    LOL.

    If he is involved in any way, the Giants won't touch him.
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    This Manti Te'o story

    You often hear that the coverup is worse than the crime, and I think that's what we got going on here. It's funny, yesterday I was hoping the Giants would have a chance to draft him. IF he was in...
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    Right. Like we have run all over them for the...

    Right. Like we have run all over them for the past 10 years, even when they were bad...
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    Yeah, I didn't even think of the high draft pick...

    Yeah, I didn't even think of the high draft pick either. They could probably snag Geno Smith in the 2nd round.
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    Plus it's not like Oregon is a talent factory. ...

    Plus it's not like Oregon is a talent factory. It's not like he's got 1st round talent every year. Oregon is not USC or Alabama. But he knows what guys fit his system well. McCoy will be the best...
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    But, see, he's already got many of the offensive...

    But, see, he's already got many of the offensive pieces in place.
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    "Why are they snapping the ball so fast?" ...

    "Why are they snapping the ball so fast?"

    "Hey, wait, our guys weren't set, thats not fair!"

    "I'll just have Blackburn shadow the QB, that'll prevent him from leaving the pocket!"
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    Kelly likes to run run run. That means lot's of...

    Kelly likes to run run run. That means lot's of McCoy and Brown. That's bad news for us. Andy Reid did everybody a favor the last couple of years by keeping McCoy under wraps. Kelly is going to...
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    It's bad. The guy is an innovator on offense. ...

    It's bad. The guy is an innovator on offense. Plus ownership is going to get him whatever he needs. Of course nothing is guaranteed, but I think it's a great hire for the Eagles.
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    He needs to get the right QB, but he's got the...

    He needs to get the right QB, but he's got the quickest RBs and WRs in the league. And he may already have the QB who can run the system (Vick). It's not that far away.
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    We now have two teams in our own division who are...

    We now have two teams in our own division who are (probably) going to have some sort of fast break offense with a mobile QB. Obviously it will take some time to get everything in place but we...
  23. The game is changing with these mobile QBs. ...

    The game is changing with these mobile QBs. Unless the Giants plan on employing a 4 DE, 7DB scheme we need to upgrade the speed in our LB core. The days of the lumbering Kiwi or Chase are...
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    I think we need to trade Eli for Andrew Luck and...

    I think we need to trade Eli for Andrew Luck and Jadeveon Clowney. Both would be under their rookie contracts and provide big savings. Problem solved!
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    The Giants are in a no lose situation next year. ...

    The Giants are in a no lose situation next year. If we go to the playoffs, great! If not, there WILL be changes, which will also be great.
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