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  1. I hope his D can stop the read/option and cover...

    I hope his D can stop the read/option and cover the TE. That would be nice.
  2. So to recap the last bunch of pages on this...

    So to recap the last bunch of pages on this thread, now we are not only making the mistake of comparing excellent players from different eras, we are comparing excellent players who play very...
  3. Slip Are you a hockey guy? If you are, the...

    Slip

    Are you a hockey guy? If you are, the best way to describe Banks is a "stay at home" LB.
  4. +1

    +1
  5. That's exactly why I've wanted the Giants to...

    That's exactly why I've wanted the Giants to prioritize OLB in the draft.
  6. Banks was great in the role he was asked to play....

    Banks was great in the role he was asked to play. He wasn't really expected to rush the passer. They had LT. And I know how simplistic that sounds, but it really was true. They didn't need Banks...
  7. I never saw Tunnell play so I can't say but he's...

    I never saw Tunnell play so I can't say but he's a hall of famer so I'm sure you're right. But Collins was a terrific all around corner. Very physical in run support. Like a strong safety.
  8. That's probably what you're seeing. Pepper was...

    That's probably what you're seeing. Pepper was coming into his own around then, was a better pass rusher than Banks at that point and Belichick probably wanted to keep both players fresh after a...
  9. I think JPP is terrific. Thrilled they...

    I think JPP is terrific. Thrilled they franchised him. He's definitely an effort guy. And as good against the run as any DE in the league.
  10. But you're comparing A DE to a 3-4 strong side...

    But you're comparing A DE to a 3-4 strong side LB. His job was never to rush. He would've never gotten there before LT or Marshall anyway. He used to spy on Cunningham, cover the TE, he would tie...
  11. You might be surprised when I tell you this but a...

    You might be surprised when I tell you this but a lot of Giant fans were worried about the outcome of that game beforehand. The Bears kinda had our number in those years. The Giants were the better...
  12. That's probably it. I remember(? Lol) Pepper...

    That's probably it. I remember(? Lol) Pepper being a better pass rusher than Banks.
  13. As you know, the board is made up of the old...

    As you know, the board is made up of the old guard and the young guard. The old guard bristles when the young guard speaks definitively about players that they didn't see week in and week out. It's...
  14. Ahhhh. The glory days... On CBS if I'm not...

    Ahhhh. The glory days... On CBS if I'm not mistaken. Maybe after Carson retired, they started taking Banks out in obvious passing situations. Maybe Banks was nicked up at the end of the year. ...
  15. Shouldn't we be comparing apples to apples? ...

    Shouldn't we be comparing apples to apples? Maybe JPP to Big Leonard? That's a pretty fair discussion.
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    Let's just bring back Joe Morris and call it a...

    Let's just bring back Joe Morris and call it a day.
  17. Done.

    Done.
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    Giants have their TEs. They need an impact LB or...

    Giants have their TEs. They need an impact LB or a safety in round 2.
  19. I could be wrong, but I think Carson used to come...

    I could be wrong, but I think Carson used to come off the field in obvious passing situations near the end of his career. Banks was on the field, covering the tight end, sometimes, not even letting...
  20. For all we know he was hurt at the end of the...

    For all we know he was hurt at the end of the year. Banks was a three down LB. And as sure a tackler and as good in run support as there was at his position during his era.

    Really don't...
  21. Slip I do have a unrelated question that I...

    Slip

    I do have a unrelated question that I want to ask you because I do respect your knowledge of X's and O's.

    Wouldn't a team defending the read option benefit tremendously from placing a high...
  22. Yes I know. So you've watched a large percentage...

    Yes I know. So you've watched a large percentage of his games on tape? And you kept track of his snap count? And you saw him play as a situational LB?

    Look. I'm not trying to pick on you,...
  23. Carl Banks finished his Giant career in 1992. ...

    Carl Banks finished his Giant career in 1992. Twenty three years ago. For someone to comment on his snap count and to have watched him week in and week out they would have to be a minimum of 37. ...
  24. I ask this question with no offense intended. ...

    I ask this question with no offense intended.

    Were you alive and aware of the strategies employed in football when Banks played for the Giants?
  25. I had a similar discussion on the board once...

    I had a similar discussion on the board once before. You're absolutely correct. Athletic performance, healing and recovery can all be influenced by diet. It's actually silly to think that diet...
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