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    exactly

    exactly
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    That's fine, I'm not looking to fight over it. ...

    That's fine, I'm not looking to fight over it. It just seems strange that we are so quick to look past the wins and losses to get these other items as if the wins and losses weren't the whole point.
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    Yeah, I want a win, Harooni and the defense was...

    Yeah, I want a win, Harooni and the defense was just as culpable in that failure today as any other unit on the field (with the possible exception of special teams which is more culpable than both...
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    For the record I didn't give a crap about Prince...

    For the record I didn't give a crap about Prince and Donnell's performances last week either. I only want the team to win.
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    Fair enough. Maybe its over-defending then. ...

    Fair enough. Maybe its over-defending then.

    It just seems strange to me that the team lost and people are eager to start threads about how "Eli didn't lose us the game!"

    The team lost,...
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    The D hasn't been great in a decade. They've...

    The D hasn't been great in a decade. They've been good, overall average to a bit better than average. They've gotten hot over periods and played great and have played weakly but benefited from the...
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    I'd be surprised if anyone is defending the...

    I'd be surprised if anyone is defending the defense today. They played an unprepared backup who - when necessary - went through them faster than Grant took Richmond. Plus as has been the disturbing...
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    Fine, but that's hardly cause for celebration...

    Fine, but that's hardly cause for celebration after a loss.

    I thought the idea was to win football games.
  9. I don't think it should be incumbent on the D to...

    I don't think it should be incumbent on the D to create turnovers. It's nice when it happens but frankly, just playing well and getting yourself off the field occasionally on third down is more than...
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    LOL!

    LOL!
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    Anyone that believes that Harooni isn't a...

    Anyone that believes that Harooni isn't a die-hard Giants fan through and through just isn't paying attention.

    And yeah, sadly he is right, there is a faction of fans here who actually seem happy...
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    Dead on, almost. I believe his current...

    Dead on, almost.

    I believe his current contract runs through next year so whatever he's owed next year he'll get under his current deal, which I further believe - that all but the dimmest of bulbs...
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    Agreed, The turnovers did that. The D did their...

    Agreed, The turnovers did that. The D did their damage early but then reverted to average except for the penalties.
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    You're in the right place, my boy; no one here...

    You're in the right place, my boy; no one here knows anything about football either.
  15. Oh good - switching to the CLE/NO game so I can...

    Oh good - switching to the CLE/NO game so I can watch the elite Drew Bree's lead his team to victory after another mediocre performance and a brutal pick 6.

    But we'll only talk about the...
  16. Expect some idiot to use those stats against him...

    Expect some idiot to use those stats against him in the future.

    Meanwhile the doesn't care at all about stats and only cares about winning games. Sure, he often plays poorly and doesn't help...
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    Why is this important? The Giants lost. ...

    Why is this important?

    The Giants lost. Ignore the idiotic haters and focus on your team, brother.
  18. Sorry to disappoint you. This must be very...

    Sorry to disappoint you. This must be very tough for you, huh?
  19. Looked like it.

    Looked like it.
  20. Sorry to disappoint you

    Sorry to disappoint you
  21. Wow, that defender was all over RR. Cromartie...

    Wow, that defender was all over RR. Cromartie sucks and gets away with it
  22. I wish but that will never happen

    I wish but that will never happen
  23. 3rd and 8 c'mon D!

    3rd and 8 c'mon D!
  24. Exactly. That's why this board is so ****ed up.

    Exactly. That's why this board is so ****ed up.
  25. GODAMNIT. This team is cursed

    GODAMNIT.

    This team is cursed
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