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  1. No one can say if we drafted Murray he would have...

    No one can say if we drafted Murray he would have put up nearly the same stats. If we did however you could argue two things: We might not have drafted ODB and we would probably be losing Murray to...
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    I see a 4-3 (but yes I know with JPP standing you...

    I see a 4-3 (but yes I know with JPP standing you could argue its a 3-4...but it isn't :) )

    I think everyone is basically saying the same thing here. The traditional 3-4 is t like today's. There...
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    You need both but...it's very plausible for a...

    You need both but...it's very plausible for a decent back to gain 1500 yards behind a dominant o line, only the best of the best backs can do that with a bad o line. Much easier to plug and play any...
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    I'll say this, I dont see the desean and Beckham...

    I'll say this, I dont see the desean and Beckham similarities at all. There's a line on celebrations and desean many times is on the bad side of that line. When he backpedaed vs us I had no issue...
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    Any ref who throws a flag for a backpedal needs...

    Any ref who throws a flag for a backpedal needs to be removed, that's not taunting nor could it be considered taunting. Now if he's pointing or running his mouth at an opposing player he's doing it...
  6. I have to deal with philly fans daily, I just now...

    I have to deal with philly fans daily, I just now how to deal with them. A simple "you will sitting home watching the playoffs just like us" should do just fine. Until philly get a ring they are so...
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    The problem is they can't fine someone because of...

    The problem is they can't fine someone because of retaliation of others. He should have got 15 yards unsportsmanlike penalty and possible a league fine. The league got it right but not fining him the...
  8. Agree in principle but I'm iffy on JPP. I don't...

    Agree in principle but I'm iffy on JPP. I don't think he's been padding his numbers as he looks like completly different player the past few weeks. I'm not talking about "stats", he seems to have...
  9. Not at all. The stats you posted are a all part...

    Not at all. The stats you posted are a all part of the story, game tape is a different animal all together. Also I'm not sure why adding linebacker total tackles to defensive tackles total means...
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    LT won NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year in 81 (it...

    LT won NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year in 81 (it started in 1967/68 I believe). Strahan didn't break out until like his 4th year (that 97 year)

    Back to topic I think it's a three way race between...
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    He "threw" two picks, but only one was caught lol.

    He "threw" two picks, but only one was caught lol.
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    That sort of helps his point. Yes fans were...

    That sort of helps his point. Yes fans were gunning for phil's head early on. None of us knew at the time but that was the start of the Giants turn around. Phil, as well as many other players looked...
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    Here is the thing. I like both players but, as...

    Here is the thing. I like both players but, as most of us can, see their strengths and flaws. I love that you stand up for jerry and bring up good points but the blind loyalty to him is making most...
  14. Underrated : Tunnell (the average Giant fan I...

    Underrated : Tunnell (the average Giant fan I talk to doesn usually know the name, just like another poster said about Morrison)
    Overrated: Tarkenton : not the player overall but his time with the...
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    I agree with this. Once he turned that should be...

    I agree with this. Once he turned that should be considered the "football move". If he didn't turn this call would be debatable, but he did...bad call.
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    Which pretty much goes against everything the...

    Which pretty much goes against everything the Mara tradition and coughlin goes against. Don't get complacent and strive to be the best. I might have missed it but if your post is regarding the OP he...
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    Well it is correct because it was said In that...

    Well it is correct because it was said In that movie. That's the movie most would say because that's where it was most relevant. I'm guessing you are asking what movie that shaq was In where it was...
  18. I did sense a bit of negativity toward Reese when...

    I did sense a bit of negativity toward Reese when he was talking about the second contracts of players but for the most part the article does ring true.
  19. You can't really call that hate, many people have...

    You can't really call that hate, many people have said the same thing. That's Definatly an objectionable view, not just being a hater.
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    I agree while the draft was going I was...

    I agree while the draft was going I was scratching my head with a few picks but shouldn't we wait and see hoe these players turn out? Lol. How do you know niklas will be a stud? Maybe he's a bust,...
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    I hear what you are saying but he's not a blue...

    I hear what you are saying but he's not a blue chip prospect and thats not what a blue chip prospect is. once again i love the pick but he isn't a blue chip (by definition) prospect, thats determined...
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    I think you are confusing blue collar with blue...

    I think you are confusing blue collar with blue chip. Beckham is not a blue chip prospect, which is no way means he won't be a great player.
  23. So they still can. Like another poster said who...

    So they still can. Like another poster said who did you want to reach for? You hate that they picked the #3 receiver but you would have rather grabbed the #2 TE at #12 instead??? Lol how is that even...
  24. Sooooo College production means nothing to you...

    Sooooo College production means nothing to you but height does?
    And no as much as Ioved Boss he was never a "beast"
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    Negative on the back pylon fade route. Nicks ran...

    Negative on the back pylon fade route. Nicks ran a nice fade but not go alone where it was a jump ball (this was a comment on tall receivers). Where nicks had great body control and used his body...
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