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  1. If feel that they maybe cheap due to there track...

    If feel that they maybe cheap due to there track record recently of paying or not paying players, but I respect your argument. Alittle off topic, but do you think this is also there reasoning behind...
  2. Like I said by definition the cap is being...

    Like I said by definition the cap is being circumvented anytime a team, extends a contract, restructure, move salary to bonus, etc. To circumvent means to go around or bypass, to avoid. Every team...
  3. This is getting off topic. Anytime a team,...

    This is getting off topic. Anytime a team, extends a contract, restruture, move salary to bonus, etc. by definition they are circumventing the cap. You are right about when the money hits the cap....
  4. There is a big difference between bonus,...

    There is a big difference between bonus, guaranteed money, salary and dead money. If there wasn't a difference teams wouldnt redo deals or cut players based solely on there cap number.They do spend...
  5. Base salary only counts if the player is on the...

    Base salary only counts if the player is on the roster. Signing bonus and guaranteed money count irregardless. hence the term "dead money"
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    I really don't get what the Giants are doing. Eli...

    I really don't get what the Giants are doing. Eli will make about 20 mill this upcoming season. If he has a typical Eli season 25-30 TD's 4000 yards, they will be forced to franchise him which will...
  7. There is a cap ceiling and a cap floor (90% of...

    There is a cap ceiling and a cap floor (90% of ceiling). I believe If a team doesn't hit that 90% average over a 3 year period they have to write a check for he difference directly to the NFLPA....
  8. I dont think JPP will be a Giant if he doesnt...

    I dont think JPP will be a Giant if he doesnt sign a long term deal this off season. He wont be franchised cuz they will have to do something w Prince and Eli, plus he'll get the 14 mill and change x...
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    I see Eli w/ the Giants signed to a...

    I see Eli w/ the Giants signed to a Roethlesberger type contract. The Giants are cheap IMO, but they are not stupid. Unlike most on these threads they realize that good QB's don't grow on trees and...
  10. I'll be content with 9 or 10 wins. I don't see...

    I'll be content with 9 or 10 wins. I don't see how we make the playoffs w essentially the same type of roster as last season. They haven't added any known defensive difference makers. They added a...
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    We have 2 guys that play the same position in the...

    We have 2 guys that play the same position in the same conference. 1 guys numbers are double the other guys numbers. If I needed to draft a player to fill that position i'd pick the guy that's twice...
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    Which NFL team do you work for? I know the guy is...

    Which NFL team do you work for? I know the guy is a run stopper/space eater. I can see that he's not a penetrator, he gets sacks thru push up the middle. We don't need a Warren Sapp, we need a...
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    Making multiple points to multiple responses, but...

    Making multiple points to multiple responses, but like I said they are basically the same guy, minus the cap hit. Kiwi is no longer on this team, nor should he be. But Selvie isn't the answer either...
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    First off this is about Selvie. Someone responded...

    First off this is about Selvie. Someone responded that he is noted as a good run player. I didn't say every player on there team was bad. But about Ware and Lee. IMO they are very over rated. Lee...
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    Kiwi missed games in 2010 season, Selvie was...

    Kiwi missed games in 2010 season, Selvie was barely on a roster until last season. Giants are his 5th team in 7 years..... JOURNEYMAN!!!

    http://www.nfl.com/player/georgeselvie/496853/profile...
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    He's a upgrade over Kiwi only because his cap...

    He's a upgrade over Kiwi only because his cap number is lower, as a player they are basically the same dude...

    This past season Dallas' best defender was Demarco Murray because he chewed up clock....
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    Solid? He's a journeyman... to be polite. Theres...

    Solid? He's a journeyman... to be polite. Theres nothing you can say.... This doesn't help us, other then filling a roster spot and providing "competition" or "depth". This move doesn't make us...
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    I mean do we really expect them to resign JPP. If...

    I mean do we really expect them to resign JPP. If he goes and duplicates what he did this past season he will price himself off the Giants. And if he gets injured or doesn't put up numbers they will...
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    This sickens me. We were a 6-10 team w/ the 30th...

    This sickens me. We were a 6-10 team w/ the 30th ranked defense and we continue to sign role players and backups. Then we resign our scrubs....I don't expect them to just spend money just to spend...
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    Why?

    Why?
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    I won't claim to watch pac10 games, but i'll take...

    I won't claim to watch pac10 games, but i'll take the guy that got 10 sacks, coverage sacks or otherwise over the guy that got 2.When I watched the video I saw him control his man an push him back a...
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    Come on man, really!?!?!? NO THANKS

    Come on man, really!?!?!? NO THANKS
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    This will get us in the playoffs.... after our...

    This will get us in the playoffs.... after our 6-10 season, lets just bring the whole band back. Why make changes. Just Lather, Rinse, Repeat.....
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    For those sleeping on Shelton. Coming out of...

    For those sleeping on Shelton. Coming out of college, Hankins wasn't viewed as much more then a space eater. Not a pass rusher and he was able to muster 7 sacks last season. Atleast Shelton has...
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    I know we probably have no shot at Williams out...

    I know we probably have no shot at Williams out of USC but weren't his numbers and Sheltons numbers like night and day better then Armsteads. They all played in the same conference so similar...
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