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  1. i know. he lost two because he got hit as soon...

    i know. he lost two because he got hit as soon as he was handed the ball.

    Williams is what he is at this point, if one of our linemen has been pushed back into the backfield 4 feet from...
  2. interesting game of chess. if i were the giants...

    interesting game of chess. if i were the giants i'd want the contract done before the season begins.

    if the defense looks awful, and the offense looks great, it only hardens Cordon's position. ...
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    Better than Expected

    Lots of stuff we don't like, but i wanted to discuss a few things that are exceeding expectations, or positive surprises you didn't anticipate.

    Preston Parker:
    i was sure with OBJ, Cruz,...
  4. PS: if Andre Williams can show that kind of...

    PS: if Andre Williams can show that kind of vision only half as much as he did last year, he could be a very very valuable RB.

    You can see he runs with so much power and more speed that someone...
  5. left side: solid right side: oie vey

    left side: solid

    right side: oie vey
  6. absolutely, but the question next year (assuming...

    absolutely, but the question next year (assuming he signs the tag at some point in time) will be do you sign JPP or let him walk?

    i know what i would do but i have no idea what the Giants will do.
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    Right? We lost our best run stopper, in...

    Right?

    We lost our best run stopper, in preseason so far teams have had a better than good running game against us, coupled with not alot of pressure on the QB.

    We were all excited to see...
  8. Meh. Every draft gets second guessed, almost...

    Meh.

    Every draft gets second guessed, almost without exception.

    This year we needed o line, we took a guy with our 1st round pick, and half the league (and fanbase) screamed out that taking...
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    Great call. Absolutely agree. I'm more...

    Great call.

    Absolutely agree.

    I'm more concerned that our 1st team defensive line doesn't seem to get much pressure.

    That will be a much bigger problem than whatever we put on the field...
  10. The tag on JPP is the non-discussed interesting...

    The tag on JPP is the non-discussed interesting point about this Eli contract.

    if the season starts, the Giants can't withdraw the tag on JPP, which means the cap hit is pro-rated based on the...
  11. Again, guys that love TC, this is why. Guys...

    Again, guys that love TC, this is why.

    Guys that don't, won't be convinced otherwise.

    But any of us with fathers around the same age as Coughlin will know this next statement to be true: he is...
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    +1 That's fair criticism i think. I don't...

    +1

    That's fair criticism i think.

    I don't think it was a stupid strategy. It was relatively intelligent: draft athletes who by nature have a higher ceiling, for those that reach that...
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    i don't think the playoffs is really the measure....

    i don't think the playoffs is really the measure. We could have another weird year where we make it at 8-8. That would be an improvement but not really something to hang your hat on.

    to me its...
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    Some guy is going to ring his bell. Hard. Some...

    Some guy is going to ring his bell. Hard. Some safety is gonna lose his cool, not care about the 15 yards, not care about the suspension, and OBJ is going to get maliciously freight trained at some...
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    The glitzy part is the returns right? The...

    The glitzy part is the returns right?

    The thing i'm hoping to see is that the punt and kick coverage are much improved, Davis and Harris sound like really solid coverage guys.

    For our punt...
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    Exactly. It amazes me we even have this...

    Exactly.

    It amazes me we even have this conversation as much as we do. It's like some fans are the mother of the brat kid who gets into the face of other kids and when the other parents try and...
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    +1 when fans say he's targeted because he's...

    +1

    when fans say he's targeted because he's awesome, they're basically saying its not his fault. its a character flaw in everyone else.

    but from team to team, and game to game (we all watch...
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    add Miami, Washington, Cleveland, Jets,...

    add Miami, Washington, Cleveland, Jets, Jacksonville, TB (up until this year's draft), Texans, Titans, Vikings, Raiders, Rams.

    Think about the last franchise QB you can name for each of those...
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    LOL Fassels might take their call.

    LOL

    Fassels might take their call.
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    Really? i'm the exact opposite right now. ...

    Really?

    i'm the exact opposite right now.

    I think they're gonna suck early in the season but there's pieces here that i don't think they've had for years. I don't mind sacrificing half a...
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    they 'might', but that's improbable. Most...

    they 'might', but that's improbable.

    Most likely they'd rather see if they can be the coach that "turned Eli into a new QB".

    the Giants could hire a guy that wants to take the organization in a...
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    that's a 3 hour discussion that could go on. ...

    that's a 3 hour discussion that could go on.

    its going to get much much worse before it gets better, and i don't think the only pressure is the CBA. the NFL is legitimately concerned about how it...
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    Meh. i don't think if Coughlin is moved out its...

    Meh. i don't think if Coughlin is moved out its because of the injury issue. Coughlin will bang that drum (injuries holding us back) in his meetings with Mara (i would).

    Ultimately, your...
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    that's really well said, as usual. i think...

    that's really well said, as usual.

    i think there's alot of future potential on this team right now, more so than i can remember in the last 3 years, and it'll be unfortunate if Coughlin et al get...
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    2-3 will be great frankly. We had alot of...

    2-3 will be great frankly.

    We had alot of "ifs" going into this season, in order to play like a playoff team, or even an above average team.

    and i've maintained that's alot of 'ifs' that need...
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