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  1. as a few mentioned on here, he is a great gunner...

    as a few mentioned on here, he is a great gunner and tackler on special teams too. i find it funny that all these "expert" websites who say its a really bad move (lets be honest we did overpay, but...
  2. basically this. he's not even in my top 5 of guys...

    basically this. he's not even in my top 5 of guys id want at 9 but if the giants take him its not like im going to be breaking ****. i dont think the value is there, but it will instantly solidify...
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    and when people really like a player, they really...

    and when people really like a player, they really like a player haha. and its its interesting because the conversation we are having here is probably fairly similar to those the teams are having....
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    and if the value to trade down is worse?

    and if the value to trade down is worse?
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    Yeah I agree. I think he's a super under the...

    Yeah I agree. I think he's a super under the radar kind of guy who I feel is the exact player the Giants would like. Wouldn't be shocked if we took him to be honest. If cooper and white are off the...
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    agree 100%

    agree 100%
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    You prefer scherff? Or do you hope we dont go o...

    You prefer scherff? Or do you hope we dont go o line in the first? I agree with the latter
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    if we're going to take an offensive lineman in...

    if we're going to take an offensive lineman in the first, yes
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    yeah i realized that after i did it haha

    yeah i realized that after i did it haha
  10. Thread: Bud Dupree

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    It definitely depends on who is available, ill...

    It definitely depends on who is available, ill give you that
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    Need Based Mock

    Figured this would be something interesting to do. This isn't necessarily a mock of who I want, or who I think we'll take, but its a mock of guys I like filling needs I feel we have.

    1) La'El...
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    Yeah hes right in that in between spot, which...

    Yeah hes right in that in between spot, which drives me nuts. I find myself liking more and more late first early 2nd guys who we wont be able to get, more so than top 10 guys
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    I'm surprised. I thought his tape was pretty...

    I'm surprised. I thought his tape was pretty good. Oh well
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    No love for Jake Fisher?

    I don't know if I have even heard his name on the boards. Is it just because he is a late first round prospect and our odds of getting him aren't good? I would love if we traded back to nab him. ...
  15. Thread: Bud Dupree

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    hes just so damn raw. idk. i mean if they feel...

    hes just so damn raw. idk. i mean if they feel they can fix him and take him thats fine. im just commenting on what i know (which is only film)
  16. Thread: Bud Dupree

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    i see him get locked up one on one with HB and TE...

    i see him get locked up one on one with HB and TE WAY too much. if you are a top 10 pick, you need to blow that guy up 95% of the time
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    preston smith, owa odighizuwa and arik armstead...

    preston smith, owa odighizuwa and arik armstead are really the only guys i like as DE prospects for us
  18. Thread: Bud Dupree

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    i agree with all of this. watching him on tape...

    i agree with all of this. watching him on tape drives me nuts. if you draft him top 10, you are drafting him specifically for potential based on his athleticism and his body type. that scares the...
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    exactly. its not an ethics or a legality thing....

    exactly. its not an ethics or a legality thing. its more of a character test to me than a drug test
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    except rob rang totally has a personal vendetta...

    except rob rang totally has a personal vendetta and agenda to ruin Gregory's draft stock...
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    i was talking with another poster. i wasnt...

    i was talking with another poster. i wasnt talking about gregory
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    you totally missed my point. i was talking about...

    you totally missed my point. i was talking about how prototypical players are necessary, not guys based off production
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    I personally agree with you about gregory's pass...

    I personally agree with you about gregory's pass rushing. My problem is I don't want the giants to draft a specialist in the top 10. If you are going to draft a DE, IMO they need to be able to at...
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    so would you have drafted michael sam before the...

    so would you have drafted michael sam before the 7th round? ton of production, high character and motor guy, not prototypical at all though?
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    its not saying he may not be a good player, im...

    its not saying he may not be a good player, im sure hell do well in a 34. but in our defense his value just isnt maximized
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