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  1. Just to continue to beat the dead horse.... ...

    Just to continue to beat the dead horse....

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/8/21/9186845/eli-manning-giants-contract-extension-highest-paid-player
  2. I see your opinions on the players I...

    I see your opinions on the players I mentioned.... mostly positive comment. I think its fair to say that Beckam, Kennard and Wynn exceeded expectations... Beckham is a probowler, Hankins and Kennard...
  3. After watching the team last year. I don't see us...

    After watching the team last year. I don't see us needed to rebuild. With Beckam, Pugh, Prince, Kennard, Hankins, Moore, Wynn, etc. You throw in Flowers, Collins, etc. If these guys cont on the...
  4. I have a diff spin on all of this.....Maybe Eli...

    I have a diff spin on all of this.....Maybe Eli feels he's better then Rodgers. I mean he won 2 super bowl MVPs, made pro bowls and led several top 10 offenses in a polar opposite system then him ....
  5. If so my bad. My take from what he was saying is...

    If so my bad. My take from what he was saying is that Eli has hamstrung this team either by his play or his contract....
  6. I'll split the baby with you. If we win 5 games...

    I'll split the baby with you. If we win 5 games with Eli starting every game. Things should be evaluated. But as I see it most teams try to acquire talent, especially at key positions... QB, DE, OL,...
  7. No its not the same because Aaron Rogers or nor...

    No its not the same because Aaron Rogers or nor any other players name or contract was mentioned by the player or his agent.... Theres a big difference between asking for 3ys/ 75MM = 25/yr or...
  8. Actually makes for a great headline, lol. Look...

    Actually makes for a great headline, lol. Look how many threads are on this topic alone. Sparks some interesting debates and comments...
  9. I doubt that Eli or his agent went and said "Eli...

    I doubt that Eli or his agent went and said "Eli has to be the top paid player or QB in football". What may have been said was Eli wants 23,24,25MM or whatever number that is higher then Rodgers,...
  10. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyg/...

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyg/

    I wish there was a way to condense passing vs. rushing offense rankings year to year. Im sure with all the Giants top 10 offense from 2005 to date...
  11. No player wins games all by himself.... You...

    No player wins games all by himself.... You usually need guys on the other side of the ball to make stops and guys up front to give you time to do what you do and most importantly guys on the other...
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    Im sure Mara, Reese and TC beg to differ as far...

    Im sure Mara, Reese and TC beg to differ as far as whether this is a make a break year. They wont retag him, I'm pretty sure he'll be do 120% of the tag. He'll play this year, whether is 2, 10 or 16...
  13. The value is... you have a chance with Eli. With...

    The value is... you have a chance with Eli. With 99.9% of the rookies, basically any rookie not name Luck or Peyton you have no shot for several years. Especially looking at the rest of this roster....
  14. I don't have a problem with this. Especially JPP,...

    I don't have a problem with this. Especially JPP, he needs to prove himself. I don't think in the case of Eli that the record of the team dictates what you do with him. Eli may never win a passing...
  15. Half the fan base will be happy because "Eli is...

    Half the fan base will be happy because "Eli is the problem", then when we have a stretch like we had w Dave Brown, Kent Graham, Kanell, etc. Literally now chance at anything....100% of the fan base...
  16. Maybe I'm looking thru Giants blue colored...

    Maybe I'm looking thru Giants blue colored glasses, but I felt like 2013 was the train-wreck, not 2014. I actually feel like although they were worse record wise, going into this year the offense...
  17. Any QB that produces, whether it be stats Ryan,...

    Any QB that produces, whether it be stats Ryan, Stafford, etc. or wins Flaccco, Wilson... they get paid. Unless you are willing to gamble that you are going to draft a quality QB ever 3 or 4 years...
  18. You would have more of an argument if this was a...

    You would have more of an argument if this was a team that drafted well, had really good players that they couldn't hold onto for cap reasons. I cant think of any players that were worth keeping that...
  19. Franchise tag is top 5 at the position or 120% of...

    Franchise tag is top 5 at the position or 120% of your cap hit, which ever is higher. So if Eli's cap hit is 19+ mill, His tag will be 22.8, then 27+, the next
  20. They would have interest in Eli the talent, him...

    They would have interest in Eli the talent, him making them better, but signing him wouldn't make sense, for either side, especially at the dollars he is looking for. So this is is basically my...
  21. Teams that don't have that franchise QB box X'd...

    Teams that don't have that franchise QB box X'd off are looking at Eli as the guy that makes them better. If your Jville, Oakland, teams like that he makes you better, but you don't have any other...
  22. If he's signed to the highest contract in the NFL...

    If he's signed to the highest contract in the NFL I wouldn't call it panic. Nearly every year QB's are draft number 1, and they aren't always the best players. and there are only 32 starting jobs at...
  23. Everything being equal, Eli IMO easily upgrades...

    Everything being equal, Eli IMO easily upgrades about 15 teams. He's shown what he can do in the playoffs. More importantly he doesn't need a line around the block for his services, just one team....
  24. I said that. But Peyton was coming back from...

    I said that. But Peyton was coming back from major neck surgery, where there was questions about his arm strength, Eli has never missed a game due to injury. My point was if Eli is playing well in 2...
  25. Eli's 34, in 2 more years, he'll be 36. Eli's not...

    Eli's 34, in 2 more years, he'll be 36. Eli's not Peyton, but Peyton signed a 5 yr/96 MM deal around the same age.
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