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  1. They keep drafting these athletic technique savvy...

    They keep drafting these athletic technique savvy type of OL, but never any talent with good to great power. Geoff is a mauler. We need more like him.
  2. We won't be near the top of the draft. This...

    We won't be near the top of the draft. This offense will begin to click by mid-season. This is a thread of the faithless. TC, Reese, and Eli will all be here next year. Put that in your pipe and...
  3. One of the best first posts ever!

    One of the best first posts ever!
  4. I trust my eyes and they are dropping the ball,...

    I trust my eyes and they are dropping the ball, but a lot of what you said is also going on. I feel good about this offense. I can see how it can be effective if properly executed, even with our...
  5. No it won't, not even close. The season in it's...

    No it won't, not even close. The season in it's entirety will determine if TC is coach next year.
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    Giants win, bump this thread!!!

    Giants win, bump this thread!!!
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    We will win this effing game no matter who the QB...

    We will win this effing game no matter who the QB is for Zona.
  8. Not only that, but Detroit boasts maybe the best...

    Not only that, but Detroit boasts maybe the best DT tandem in the league for clogging up the middle.
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    His talent was unquestioned. We couldn't trust...

    His talent was unquestioned. We couldn't trust him to be a starter. We drafted him knowing his drug issues and those same issues recurred in the NFL. His talent doesn't add value when he's on the...
  10. People are already questioning whether OBJ was a...

    People are already questioning whether OBJ was a wasted pick. I saw another thread where TC was described as a coach that "just doesn't get it". Of course the anti-Reese clan is loud and...
  11. It goes without saying that we will play to win,...

    It goes without saying that we will play to win, but TC's disposition due to his age and this stage of his career are not factored in to having patience for me. I don't see a team that looks like...
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    I like the comparison. I hope he has the...

    I like the comparison. I hope he has the separation skills of SS. Yes, I think it will be a season long process an not instant success.
  13. All fans are afforded the luxury of patience. As...

    All fans are afforded the luxury of patience. As a fan I have a lifetime contract, so I tend to assess the Giants with long term goals in mind. I want them to be the best they can be year in and...
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    His hands were inconsistent. He made amazing...

    His hands were inconsistent. He made amazing catches and he also was bound to drop several easy ones every year.
  15. The Name of the Game is Patience..for Some!

    If you're a Giants fan then from what I've seen in the preseason we need to hold strong because we aren't SB contenders just yet. This team is a work in progress.

    The O-line will need time to...
  16. I think the difference was clearly the number of...

    I think the difference was clearly the number of injuries the OL sustained in 2013.
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    I thought you were speaking about the entirety of...

    I thought you were speaking about the entirety of Reese's tenure not just this year. His rookie year growth will definitely be stunted, but I don't think he would have made as big a splash as most...
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    When Black Madden (what I call myself) says it,...

    When Black Madden (what I call myself) says it, it becomes reality.
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    Who would ever say Boss was better than Shockey...

    Who would ever say Boss was better than Shockey or AB and BJ were better than Tiki? I've never heard one Giants fan make that claim.
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    It doesn't matter. If you are going to point out...

    It doesn't matter. If you are going to point out that he makes less then other QB's it would be incomplete analysis to not mention the date of the contracts relative to Eli's in the same breath.
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  21. He's there for his knowledge of the game not for...

    He's there for his knowledge of the game not for his ability to articulate, much in the same way almost all ex-players are. The more he does it the more he will improve. Magic Johnson has become a...
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    I think some fans expect this guy to have a Randy...

    I think some fans expect this guy to have a Randy Moss like rookie season, but it wasn't going to happen with or without the hammy injury. I think we will be a good player but it won't happen...
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    ODB will add value before the season is over. ...

    ODB will add value before the season is over. Randle will be better than last year and we should see that from game 1. The offense won't run smooth until the midpoint of the season. Hopefully, by...
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    Yeah Nicks, Toomer, Plax, SS, and MM blew... ...

    Yeah Nicks, Toomer, Plax, SS, and MM blew...

    How can the year be wasted before it even starts?
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    You can't blame OBJ. He tweaked the injury by...

    You can't blame OBJ. He tweaked the injury by trying to come back too early. There is no point in him coming back until the injury is fully healed. He will just reinjure himself. The hammy may be...
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