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  1. +1

    +1
  2. I do know. I do think that there will almost...

    I do know.

    I do think that there will almost never be players that live up to Taylor, Carsons, Banks, and Reasons in many peoples minds - even if they are as good. That is not what is happening in...
  3. All I know is that the least of this team's...

    All I know is that the least of this team's worries is JPP. There are actual problems with this team that are worthy of discussion. The best defensive lineman on the team is as much of a problem as...
  4. Well he is costing the Giants top 3 among QBs...

    Well he is costing the Giants top 3 among QBs this year. To be expected based on his contract being restructured and now in it's final year.

    The way I see it Eli's camp right now want him on a...
  5. Why would I doubt him? I have been reading this...

    Why would I doubt him? I have been reading this board for years and Slip is a known guy that watches a lot of tape. He does it all the time. It's a known thing you can pay for on NFL.com to be able...
  6. ..he is rewatching the games. you can subscribe...

    ..he is rewatching the games. you can subscribe to be able to re-watch any game.

    I think this whole thing of trying to marginalize JPP is nonsense. the point is that if you think that Carl Banks...
  7. you can subscribe to NFL gamecast? (can't...

    you can subscribe to NFL gamecast? (can't remember proper name) and watch any game ever recorded. That is how he is evaluating Banks.

    For the record JPP is an every down player and Banks wasn't...
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    Definitely. I don't care if a guard has the best...

    Definitely. I don't care if a guard has the best season of all time for a guard. The impact that a guard can have on an offence is very limited.
  9. You're either going to pay him Ben's deal or...

    You're either going to pay him Ben's deal or you're gonna get some leverage to offer something else. Worst case scenario is Ben's deal/highest paid QB in the NFL. I don't really see the risk. If he...
  10. That's my feeling too. I don't see the advantage...

    That's my feeling too. I don't see the advantage to resigning now. Wait till mid season and see how things are going. If you're going to have any leverage at all that is where you're going to get it.
  11. He had a good run while he was here. It is a...

    He had a good run while he was here. It is a business as they say. Good job Rolle on not crying about Jerry Reese and respect etc etc. This guy is a classy guy. Emotional about leaving but not a...
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    yeah that was like....i don't even know man

    yeah that was like....i don't even know man
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    Yeah it's brutal. I think Marvin Austin is the...

    Yeah it's brutal.

    I think Marvin Austin is the only player the Giants have ever drafted that appeared to have career ending injuries but has managed to come back and play fairly well somewhere...
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    you obviously didn't read it.

    you obviously didn't read it.
  15. Would not bother me. I think Kelly's system is...

    Would not bother me. I think Kelly's system is stupid and I don't think Mariota is anything special as a prospect.
  16. I agree. I think players are justified in getting...

    I agree. I think players are justified in getting the best contract they can. Some players obviously do consider more than just the money but I don't blame the ones who follow the $$$ and the $$$...
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    +1

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    +1 People seem to think you can isolate...

    +1

    People seem to think you can isolate success and failure and pin one or the other on one person. That's a stupid way to think.
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    player development is probably 50-50 on the...

    player development is probably 50-50 on the talent evaluation and development. The development half is the coaches job. If you want to give Coughlin credit for getting the most out of his players...
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    Spagnuolo coached well with basically nobodies...

    Spagnuolo coached well with basically nobodies playing safety. I'm not worried as long as they go into the season with the right amount on the roster. Which they will.

    I want the young guys to...
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    plus Reese ran Accorsi's drafts. So separating...

    plus Reese ran Accorsi's drafts. So separating the two hardly makes any sense at all.
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    Yes

    Yes
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    Miscommunications and mental stuff. It wasn't...

    Miscommunications and mental stuff. It wasn't guys not making plays. It was guys not being anywhere near in position to make plays. Guys were loose all over the field.
  24. Devin McCourty took less money from NE than he...

    Devin McCourty took less money from NE than he could have gotten on the open market. Definitely.

    So yes there are more factors than just money.
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    I agree but I remember him justifying it at the...

    I agree but I remember him justifying it at the time based on the "need to find out" and Eli's development. That tells me he recognizes there is a time to get guys in the game and get them learning...
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