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  1. 2011 was even worse. Everyone including most...

    2011 was even worse. Everyone including most Giants fans thought they were going to be in last place and especially after rex freaking grossman beat us in week 1 of 2011. People perception change...
  2. Man I hope you're wrong about that but it sure...

    Man I hope you're wrong about that but it sure has that feel to it.
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    I didn't think they had the players in 2011...

    I didn't think they had the players in 2011 either. We lost our best defensive playmaker, starting mlb, and on and on. But yes it's still wishful thinking.
  4. Nothing but the game was over so who cares. It...

    Nothing but the game was over so who cares. It was meaningless.
  5. You guys do realize that the game was pretty much...

    You guys do realize that the game was pretty much over when he threw that pick?? Wrong example to use here. And yes he's thrown some meaningful bone headed picks however last year he cleaned that...
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    Honestly I said the same thing before the 2011...

    Honestly I said the same thing before the 2011 season started. That year I thought we would have the worst team under TC with the exception of his first year. Hey this might be one of those years...
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    Boston every franchise QB is overpaid. It is what...

    Boston every franchise QB is overpaid. It is what it is unfortunately. This is the new NFL
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    That's the problem DarkSaint, we can't remove the...

    That's the problem DarkSaint, we can't remove the 5 ints. Eli just didn't have it that day. Plus the playcalling at the end of the 49er games was terrible. I for one am not worried about Eli. I'm...
  9. Where can you get those types of stats?? I could...

    Where can you get those types of stats?? I could have sworn we were at the bottom of the league in terms of injuries in 2007.
  10. True I wasnt comparing those years to the last...

    True I wasnt comparing those years to the last couple years. Bottomline is we have had injuries to key skilled players for over a decade and it's usually at the wrong time. 2005 truly stood out to me...
  11. Yea but there were other key starters that missed...

    Yea but there were other key starters that missed games that season as well. Gibril Wilson miss some games, Brandon Jacobs, James Butler missed some games. The 2007 squad throughout the year had...
  12. 2008 yes but 2007 we lost some key players....

    2008 yes but 2007 we lost some key players. Shockey, Ward, Kiwi, Madison, Steve smith barely played during the regular season. If I'm not mistaken Jacobs missed a good amount of games in 07. It was...
  13. Never said it was. lol. But facts are facts

    Never said it was. lol. But facts are facts
  14. Not really because every year since TC has been...

    Not really because every year since TC has been the coach we've had myriads of injuries. Even in both Superbowl runs we've lost some key important players at skilled positions. Nothing new here. It...
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    You thought Eli was a game manager during the...

    You thought Eli was a game manager during the 2007 playoffs?? I guess game manager means different things to different people.

    Also lets not prop up the defense that much. You just typed that...
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    You mean that defense that gave up 80 points the...

    You mean that defense that gave up 80 points the first 2 weeks of the season and ranked in the bottom half in points given up?? Exaggeration much?? Just sayin..........
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    Relax bro. Its just a pre-season game. I would...

    Relax bro. Its just a pre-season game. I would start worrying if he looks like this against the Cowboys week 1 which I highly doubt.
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    Truthfully we probably wouldn't have looked odb's...

    Truthfully we probably wouldn't have looked odb's direction because of the development of RR and a lower first round draft. I think we would have made the playoffs in 2012 if Nicks was 100 percent...
  19. LOL how soon we forget!! Now ODB makes Eli...

    LOL how soon we forget!! Now ODB makes Eli better. The bs never ends here.
  20. His shorter throws are horrific. I never...

    His shorter throws are horrific. I never understood how he could never master that down. And all I hear from people is that his poor decision making has to do with miscommunication with him and the...
  21. The main knock on Eli has been that he's not as...

    The main knock on Eli has been that he's not as accurate as the top elite Qb's and he played in a very complicated and unfriendly offensive scheme under KG. Now most of the Eli supporters got their...
  22. And the Giants still wouldn't have made the...

    And the Giants still wouldn't have made the playoffs. Brady wouldn't have made a difference with that Giants o-line in 2013. Shoot Eli played out of his mind with a bad 2011 o-line and thru 14 games...
  23. And that's all that matters. Only the homers...

    And that's all that matters. Only the homers think Eli is better or at the same level of Brady or Rodgers which is just flat out stupid if you ask me.
  24. 100%percent truth but its not just on the QB....

    100%percent truth but its not just on the QB. It's a team game. Stats are for losers. Facts are facts Eli has 2 rings while only one active QB has more rings than him to date.
  25. When it comes to Brady the team figured out how...

    When it comes to Brady the team figured out how to fix the o-line. Brady has never had o-line issues the way Eli and the Giants had. Put Brady on this Giants team in 2013 and no way we make the...
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