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  1. LOL, didn't mean for this to become a personal...

    LOL, didn't mean for this to become a personal debate. Yes, I do recall them adjusting the routes later in the season, and if I recall, we saw some improvement once they started doing that.

    Yes,...
  2. I concede, you are right... adjusting the system...

    I concede, you are right... adjusting the system is too hard. If a team is struggling due to lack of talent they should just keep struggling rather than find a way to win. Thank you for that...
  3. I would suggest that they should have done it the...

    I would suggest that they should have done it the minute they realized they didn't have a true X receiver healthy enough to keep the offense going. With Nicks playing injured (2013?) it should have...
  4. I root for Eli and company every week, but...

    I root for Eli and company every week, but looking at it as if he played for another team, I wonder if Giants fans would hold him in such high regard. Sure, he would be respected, but would any say...
  5. ... and decent pass protection. But the question...

    ... and decent pass protection. But the question is, should they have changed the system to accommodate the fact that they did not have a true X?
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    Agreed, the offense was good at times last year,...

    Agreed, the offense was good at times last year, enough to be ranked top 10 overall, what it lacked was consistency. Improving the line and in particular the run game, would make this a very...
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    The title of the discussion says rookies

    The title of the discussion says rookies
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    Please provide a link to the things you say, I...

    Please provide a link to the things you say, I don't recall Cruz ever being benched. Since this is a discussion about rookies... I must assume you are referring to 2010 as a record breaking season?...
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    Nicks was involved in the offense from game one,...

    Nicks was involved in the offense from game one, and finished out the season as the #2, just like you would expect from a rookie.

    Rookies do have to earn their role into the Giants starting...
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    For the most part, I agree with your assessment,...

    For the most part, I agree with your assessment, but I am not as concerned as you seem to be about the deep pass. It is the run and short passes that keep drives going that concern me. That's what...
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    The offense was ranked #10 overall last year,...

    The offense was ranked #10 overall last year, even with all the problems... top 10 is easily achievable IMO. However, consistency is the key, they need to be able to run the clock out at time and at...
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    Looks like a good draft on paper, guys with a lot...

    Looks like a good draft on paper, guys with a lot of upside, but it will be a while before we really know. They certainly addressed need though.
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    I am not going to be so quick, we had a lot of...

    I am not going to be so quick, we had a lot of injuries to key players... again... last year. But, they still managed to have a top 10 offense, even if it was inconsistent. The defense should...
  14. So... no QB the Giants could ever get would be...

    So... no QB the Giants could ever get would be good enough to win with? Eli is the only QB that could ever win for the Giants? Seems to me that getting a player that could win if Eli went down would...
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    Agreed, a passing threat out of the backfield is...

    Agreed, a passing threat out of the backfield is an integral part of the WC offense. Not just someone that can catch, but someone that is a threat to gain yards after the catch. Vareen brings that...
  16. The same could have been said of Cruz early in...

    The same could have been said of Cruz early in his career, who only got an opportunity because of injury. Not to say that Washington is the next Cruz, but dismissing him simply because he hasn't been...
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    Clearly, a bad RB can make a good OL look bad,...

    Clearly, a bad RB can make a good OL look bad, but the reverse is also true. Is it the OL that makes AW look bad? I don't think so, but to say that he is the reason the OL is bad is a bit of an...
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    Oh good, so we just need to trade for Adrian...

    Oh good, so we just need to trade for Adrian Peterson and our line will be the best in the league
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    A true fan isn't a robot fitting a specific mold....

    A true fan isn't a robot fitting a specific mold. A true fan sticks with the TEAM through good and bad, they may like or dislike certain players, but they always root for the team.

    We don't...
  20. While technically true, what goes into good QB...

    While technically true, what goes into good QB play? Can a good QB be bad with a bad O-line? What if they have no running game or receivers?

    Can a top 10 offense still lead to a 6-10 record if...
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    IMO, not extending Eli's contract has nothing to...

    IMO, not extending Eli's contract has nothing to do with the teams belief in his ability, it has to do with their belief in the near future of the team. Many on here have said the talent level is...
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    The names on the jerseys aren't as important to...

    The names on the jerseys aren't as important to me as the success of the team. That being said, I don't think there will be a whole lot of interest in Cruz until he proves he can come back from the...
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    Clearly the Giants agree that Selvie is not the...

    Clearly the Giants agree that Selvie is not the answer, they only signed him to a one year deal.
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    The offense, even with all their injuries and...

    The offense, even with all their injuries and inconsistencies, was a top 10 offense last year. Adding players might help, but the bigger issue is staying healthy to get more consistent. The run game...
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    Didn't see anyone mention Pepper

    Didn't see anyone mention Pepper
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