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    Not a muff, he was stripped.

    Not a muff, he was stripped.
  2. Poll: Plus why would we think that coaches who have...

    Plus why would we think that coaches who have been out of the game for this long can recapture that success? The games changed. Tom couldn't keep up and he was still in the game.
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    Just because someone may not agree with you does...

    Just because someone may not agree with you does not mean they are not smart or true fans.
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    Smart Giants fans care more about a season that...

    Smart Giants fans care more about a season that matters.....next season.
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    I"m not rooting against them but any realistic...

    I"m not rooting against them but any realistic fan should see the bigger picture. What means more, meaningless wins at the end of a season or getting a higher draft pick? Its a lost season so at...
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    This is embarassing

    Thats it. Is this really an NFL team right now?
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    Going to screw this up also?

    Leave it to the Giants to win these last 2 games after being eliminated and cost themselves a better pick in the draft next year.
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    This has to be the worst Giants D i remember...

    This has to be the worst Giants D i remember seeing in a LONG time.
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    Exactly. This isn't a train wreck of a team,...

    Exactly. This isn't a train wreck of a team, just a train wreck in the clutch. The team is much better than their record, of course the record is all that matters. In a few years we can easily...
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    I think the reason most people pick the Giants is...

    I think the reason most people pick the Giants is due to how they got to 5-7. The Giants have only been a wreck in crunch time. For 3+ quarters of most games the Giants have looked like an above...
  11. Thread: Tiebreakers

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    The division winner will end up 7-9

    The division winner will end up 7-9
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    I favor Payton once the Saints dump him this...

    I favor Payton once the Saints dump him this offseason.
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    Get Payton after the Saints fire him.

    Get Payton after the Saints fire him.
  14. My argument against this point is the fact that...

    My argument against this point is the fact that proper play calling and clock management and this team is realistically at worst 9-3. The talent was good enough to have the lead in the last 2:00 of...
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    Time to accept reality, if not done yet

    The terrible division kept hope alive for a long time but it is time to see things how they really are. While this will be the could have been season, the truth is we are exactly what our record...
  16. We are in the exact same boat. I'm sure many...

    We are in the exact same boat. I'm sure many Giants fans are. 5 blown games in similar fashion and i'm numb to this. See ya Tom. Game management has been a nightmare this season.
  17. You're kidding right. When its 4th and goal you...

    You're kidding right. When its 4th and goal you force the ball and hope for a miracle. There's no difference between an incomplete pass and a pick. Go up 13 and force them to score 2 tds. What a...
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    Thats what a decent team does. Play great for 3...

    Thats what a decent team does. Play great for 3 quarters then lay an egg and lose or lay an egg for 3 quarters then play a great 4th. Just imagine if we put together 4 quarters. Of course, only...
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    Great point.

    Great point.
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    Who are you, the Giants fan police? LOL. ...

    Who are you, the Giants fan police? LOL. Playing poorly isn't called adversity, it's called not being a good team. Deal with that.
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    So that'll be the difference between having the...

    So that'll be the difference between having the 4th pick and the 12th pick. Bottom line is no post-season. That's not yellow, that's accepting reality.
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    We can only play well during finishing time after...

    We can only play well during finishing time after laying an egg for 45+ minutes first. Of course when we play a good first 3 quarters we'll chock the end away. Such a frustrating team this season.
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    You're right, calm down and accept the fact we'll...

    You're right, calm down and accept the fact we'll be preparing for the draft in January instead of playing.
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    Solid 4th quarter

    I guess it takes playing terrible the first 3 quarters to finally play a good 4th quarter.
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    Remember all those that said "calm down"?

    Where are all those people after the Pats game that were telling us all to calm down, we're ok, we just almost beat the best team in the league and we control our own fate? This is what most of us...
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