OFFICAL 2012 NFL COMBINE THREAD (anything and everything combine)

[nycsportzfan]

[quote user="Neverend"]I'd have to respectfully disagree about Allen being more quick off the line than Fleener. I think if Fleener participated more at the combine he would have absolutely had a faster 10-yrd dash than any TE not named Orson Charles. Allen has good quickness off the line but it seems like defenders have success when they hit him at the line and get physical him (for arguments sake, that could be more of a technique thing). If he were so quick I'd like to see him elude press coverage more often.[/quote] Allen has great seperation skills, and ESPN"s Scouts Inc broke down all the TOP players at there positons and Dwayne Allen was 3rd in Seperation Skills, which is instrumental when your qb needs to get rid of the ball quickly...</P>


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<DIV class=post-author><SPAN>By Heather Dinich</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=mod-content>ESPN's Scouts Inc. broke down the top NFL prospects at each offensive position heading into the NFL combine, and it looks like the ACC could have some stars at wide receiver and/or tight end.

When it comes to ball skills, former Virginia Tech receiver <FONT color=#225db7>Danny Coale</FONT> ranked among <FONT color=#225db7>the top five receivers at the combine</FONT>. Scouts Inc. also ranked the receivers by their big-play abilities, and Georgia Tech's <FONT color=#225db7>Stephen Hill</FONT> ranked No. 4, followed by Miami's <FONT color=#225db7>Travis Benjamin</FONT>, who was tied for fifth.

Former Clemson tight end <FONT color=#225db7>Dwayne Allen</FONT> was No. 3 in the "<FONT color=#225db7>separation skills</FONT>" category, while Miami's <FONT color=#225db7>Chase Ford</FONT> was No. 3 in big-play abilities, and NC State's <FONT color=#225db7>George Bryan</FONT> was No. 2 in competitiveness.

Two of the ACC's offensive linemen were also featured, as Florida State's <FONT color=#225db7>Zebrie Sanders</FONT> was <FONT color=#225db7>the No. 3 tackle in run blocking</FONT>, and Wake's <FONT color=#225db7>Joe Looney</FONT> was the No. 2 guard in awareness.</DIV>

[Spizi]

I feel like Allen is definitely the top TE in the class and I hope we can get him.

-solid blocker
-great route running
-gets of jams with ease
-insane acrobatic catches

In my opinion he is definitely better than Fleener.

[nycsportzfan]

Orson Charles tears up the Bench Press with a TE leading 35reps...

[nycsportzfan]

[quote user="Spizi"]I feel like Allen is definitely the top TE in the class and I hope we can get him. -solid blocker -great route running -gets of jams with ease -insane acrobatic catches In my opinion he is definitely better than Fleener.[/quote] Ya, his seperation skills, plus the ability to block, and as u said, the acrobatic catches, where he leaps super high in the air, are just fun to watch.. The dudes got ups! Can't wait to see his vertical..

[nycsportzfan]

Cordy Glenn is a freaking monster! Dude busted out 31reps on the bench with his very long arms(long arms makes it tougher to do many reps obviously, for example David Molk did 41reps with his short arms).. The GA boys are making noise early on with Orson Charles getting most reps outta TE's and Glenn putting up fine performance with his very long arms... Mike Adams had 19reps with a tad shorter arms, to give u guys a idea....

[nycsportzfan]

Heres all the measruables from the listed positons, with analysis... Bench Press results for Oline/TE as well...</P>


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2012 NFL Draft Combine - Offensive Linemen - <FONT color=red>Updated 2/25 (Bench) </FONT>


2012 NFL Draft Combine - Tight Ends - <FONT color=red>Updated 2/25 (Bench) </FONT>


2012 NFL Draft Combine - Wide Receivers - <FONT color=red>Updated 2/25 </FONT>


2012 NFL Combine Weigh-in Analysis: Wide Receivers - <FONT color=red>Updated 2/25 </FONT>


2012 NFL Draft Combine - Running Backs - <FONT color=red>Updated 2/25 </FONT>


2012 NFL Combine Weigh-in Analysis: Running Backs - <FONT color=red>Updated 2/25 </FONT>


2012 NFL Draft Combine - Quarterbacks - <FONT color=red>Updated 2/25 </FONT>


2012 NFL Combine Weigh-in Analysis: Quarterbacks - <FONT color=red>Updated 2/25 </FONT>

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[nycsportzfan]

Please let us get out hands on Doug Martin RB Boise St!! I'm telling ya, this kids next in line of the MJD and Ray Rice type backs.. Hes my 2nd rated RB, in my personal rankings...

[gmen0820]

[quote user="nycsportzfan"]Please let us get out hands on Doug Martin RB Boise St!! I'm telling ya, this kids next in line of the MJD and Ray Rice type backs..* Hes my 2nd rated RB, in my personal rankings...[/quote]Exactly how I'd describe Doug Martin. Kid is just flat out solid at everything he does and has the work ethic to just get better and better.

[juice33s]

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[quote user="Neverend"]I'd have to respectfully disagree about Allen being more quick off the line than Fleener. I think if Fleener participated more at the combine he would have absolutely had a faster 10-yrd dash than any TE not named Orson Charles. Allen has good quickness off the line but it seems like defenders have success when they hit him at the line and get physical him (for arguments sake, that could be more of a technique thing). If he were so quick I'd like to see him elude press coverage more often.[/quote] Allen has great seperation skills, and ESPN"s Scouts Inc broke down all the TOP players at there positons and <font size="5">Dwayne Allen was 3rd in Seperation Skills, which is instrumental when your qb needs to get rid of the ball quickly...</font></p>


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<div class="mod-content">ESPN's Scouts Inc. broke down the top NFL prospects at each offensive position heading into the NFL combine, and it looks like the ACC could have some stars at wide receiver and/or tight end.

When it comes to ball skills, former Virginia Tech receiver <font color="#225db7">Danny Coale</font> ranked among <font color="#225db7">the top five receivers at the combine</font>. Scouts Inc. also ranked the receivers by their big-play abilities, and Georgia Tech's <font color="#225db7">Stephen Hill</font> ranked No. 4, followed by Miami's <font color="#225db7">Travis Benjamin</font>, who was tied for fifth.

Former Clemson tight end <font color="#225db7">Dwayne Allen</font> was No. 3 in the "<font color="#225db7">separation skills</font>" category, while Miami's <font color="#225db7">Chase Ford</font> was No. 3 in big-play abilities, and NC State's <font color="#225db7">George Bryan</font> was No. 2 in competitiveness.

Two of the ACC's offensive linemen were also featured, as Florida State's <font color="#225db7">Zebrie Sanders</font> was <font color="#225db7">the No. 3 tackle in run blocking</font>, and Wake's <font color="#225db7">Joe Looney</font> was the No. 2 guard in awareness.</div>[/quote]
You know who was number 1 in separation skills?...Fleener

I personally gauruntee that Allen doesn't go in the first....more like mid 2nd to early 3rd. The guy has below average size and only average athleticism.

[BlueSanta]

[quote user="juice33s"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]

[quote user="Neverend"]I'd have to respectfully disagree about Allen being more quick off the line than Fleener. I think if Fleener participated more at the combine he would have absolutely had a faster 10-yrd dash than any TE not named Orson Charles. Allen has good quickness off the line but it seems like defenders have success when they hit him at the line and get physical him (for arguments sake, that could be more of a technique thing). If he were so quick I'd like to see him elude press coverage more often.[/quote] Allen has great seperation skills, and ESPN"s Scouts Inc broke down all the TOP players at there positons and <font size="5">Dwayne Allen was 3rd in Seperation Skills, which is instrumental when your qb needs to get rid of the ball quickly...</font></p>


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<div class="post-author"><span>By Heather Dinich</span></div></div>
<div class="mod-content">ESPN's Scouts Inc. broke down the top NFL prospects at each offensive position heading into the NFL combine, and it looks like the ACC could have some stars at wide receiver and/or tight end.

When it comes to ball skills, former Virginia Tech receiver <font color="#225db7">Danny Coale</font> ranked among <font color="#225db7">the top five receivers at the combine</font>. Scouts Inc. also ranked the receivers by their big-play abilities, and Georgia Tech's <font color="#225db7">Stephen Hill</font> ranked No. 4, followed by Miami's <font color="#225db7">Travis Benjamin</font>, who was tied for fifth.

Former Clemson tight end <font color="#225db7">Dwayne Allen</font> was No. 3 in the "<font color="#225db7">separation skills</font>" category, while Miami's <font color="#225db7">Chase Ford</font> was No. 3 in big-play abilities, and NC State's <font color="#225db7">George Bryan</font> was No. 2 in competitiveness.

Two of the ACC's offensive linemen were also featured, as Florida State's <font color="#225db7">Zebrie Sanders</font> was <font color="#225db7">the No. 3 tackle in run blocking</font>, and Wake's <font color="#225db7">Joe Looney</font> was the No. 2 guard in awareness.</div>[/quote]
You know who was number 1 in separation skills?...Fleener

I personally gauruntee that Allen doesn't go in the first....more like mid 2nd to early 3rd. The guy has below average size and only average athleticism.


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I do think Fleener has a higher chance of going in the 1st because more of the teams who need a TE are pro style teams. Personally, I think Atlanta might have their sights on him since Gonzales is showing his age and has hinted at this being his last year.

And, if we want a guy to fill just a pro style TE role then I do hope we take Fleener.

But, if we want a guy who can be a tight end and ocassionaly split out or play h-back to help fill the hole that a possibly departing MM would leave, then I think Allen serves that role better.

I would not complain about either player to be honest.