Better off without Manningham?

[Giants10Joe]

Let me just preface this by saying I like Manningham and hope he stays, but part of me wonders if we would be better off without him. With Nicks and Cruz drawing the other team's top 2 cornerbacks and frequently double coverage, Manningham only had to beat the number 3 (sometimes even number 4 or 5) cornerback and he couldn't always do that. Maybe Jerrigan or someone else will be a able to get open more often.

[giantman8493]

lol good.

[miken609]

[quote user="giantman8493"]lol good.[/quote]

What kind of response is that? Do you agree or disagree? Why?

[ny06]

I don't agree we will be better without Manningham. </P>


Not saying we still won't be lethal in the passing game. </P>


But Manningham was a legitimate #2 receiver in this league. </P>


His knock was he was not on the same page with Eli on numerous occasions. </P>


That is what kept him at best on the #3 wr on the depth chart. </P>


And the resurgence of Cruz made it near imposible for Manningham to move up on the depth chart. </P>


Manningham did alot for us, he gave us a deep threat, and like Nicks and Cruz, was dangerous once he got the ball in his hands. </P>


I think the Giants would love to keep him, but that is just near imposible with the salary cap issues. </P>


I hope nothing but the best for Mario Manningham. </P>

[egyptian420]

[quote user="ny06"]

I don't agree we will be better without Manningham. </p>


Not saying we still won't be lethal in the passing game. </p>


But Manningham was a legitimate #2 receiver in this league. </p>


His knock was he was not on the same page with Eli on numerous occasions. </p>


That is what kept him at best on the #3 wr on the depth chart. </p>


And the resurgence of Cruz made it near imposible for Manningham to move up on the depth chart. </p>


Manningham did alot for us, he gave us a deep threat, and like Nicks and Cruz, was dangerous once he got the ball in his hands. </p>


I think the Giants would love to keep him, but that is just near imposible with the salary cap issues. </p>


I hope nothing but the best for Mario Manningham. </p>[/quote]
Agreed, I can't imagine this passing game possibly getting any better, much less without Manningham. I hope the OP proves me wrong though.

[myles2424]

Dude HAM is easily one of the best #3s in the league......let's not start getting bitter because he's leaving.....

[miken609]

I would never say that a team is better off without a particular player because said player could always serve as a back up.

That said, I do agree with you. Manningham should have been open more often.

However, we must consider that when either Nicks or Cruz was doubled, the other team was probably not using their #1 and #2 CBs on the same WR on the same play. If Nicks was doubled he was probably doubled with the other teams #3 and #4 CBs while Cruz would be left matched up with the #1 and Manningham, the #2. Thus Manningham probably face better CBs than we may have thought.

All things considered, Manningham should have been able to get open more frequently considering how much he faced single coverage on the other teams #2, #3, or #4 CB.

In conclusion, while we wouldn't be a better team without Manningham he most definitely is replaceable for someone who can be paid less, someone who is better, or any combination of the 2.

[nygsb42champs]

Yes he was against a weaker DB than Nicks or Cruz but we will not be better without him. He developed nicely with Eli and it will take time for another WR to develop that same type of chemistry.

[Kruunch]

[quote user="Giants10Joe"]Let me just preface this by saying I like Manningham and hope he stays, but part of me wonders if we would be better off without him. With Nicks and Cruz drawing the other team's top 2 cornerbacks and frequently double coverage, Manningham only had to beat the number 3 (sometimes even number 4 or 5) cornerback and he couldn't always do that. Maybe Jerrigan or someone else will be a able to get open more often.
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MM usually had to beat a Safety over the top (or to the inside).

As a #3, with money not coming into the picture, MM was great in that position.

I don't consider us better off without him unless we can replace his talent (not as easily done as said).

[Morehead State]

[quote user="Giants10Joe"]Let me just preface this by saying I like Manningham and hope he stays, but part of me wonders if we would be better off without him. With Nicks and Cruz drawing the other team's top 2 cornerbacks and frequently double coverage, Manningham only had to beat the number 3 (sometimes even number 4 or 5) cornerback and he couldn't always do that. Maybe Jerrigan or someone else will be a able to get open more often.
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What about 2010 when Nicks and Smith were both out andManningham averaged well over 100 yards for those 4 games.</P>