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    [quote user="AsianGiant"]On my way to work, I came up with a theory about Tiki.

    Basically, Tiki has always been a goal oriented person, never letting anyone or so it seems,
    get in the way of his goals. He literally did everything he could as a player to put the Giants
    on his shoulders to get them to the promise land. You can't ask for anything more out of a player.
    Strahan essentially has done the samething for the team as a defensive player.

    The way he retired from the team was not what he had in mind, issues with the coach, perhaps
    issues with players and the constant media rumors of his retirement(although that was his fault).

    So now as a commentator(not journalist) he has the opportunity to allow some of his bitterness about
    the ended relationship flow through.

    I admit the early criticism on Eli before season has even started is a bit mind boggling but again that
    is due to the manner in which he left the team.

    In his eyes, he hoped that releasing the "retirement" rumors would allow his team to pick up the
    slack and play hard one last time for that beloved ring. But with an 8-8 record, it was very much
    half ***-ed...

    So in all his glory and hard work, his team did not return the same effort...

    Thoughts?

    [/quote]Well since if I answer back on TAGF I get flamed and it's the big Tiki hate fest over there... I like what I read in Ralphie's blog....</P>


    Barber also seemed surprised by the reaction (or overreaction) to his comments.</P>


    “I just saw it on <SPAN class=caps>ESPN</SPAN> News and I’m like, ‘Are you kidding me?’” Tiki said. “Five sentences on a half-hour halftime show and now all of a sudden I’m going to be back page news? You’ve got to love New York.”</P>


    Which is true, and I read Eli's comments the way Tiki did, in that Eli was saying Tiki quit on the team. I do think Tiki is trying to break from the mold of being a Giant Homer and did it poorly this first outing. He needs to script his words better on how he describes Eli's leadership. Saying "Comical" is unprofessional and he should recant that. To say that Eli was uncomfortable in the leadership role is something all of us have observed. I would bet money, that if this took place in some other city not in the Northeast, nobody would have even noticed....</P>

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    [quote user="AsianGiant"]On my way to work, I came up with a theory about Tiki.

    Basically, Tiki has always been a goal oriented person, never letting anyone or so it seems,
    get in the way of his goals. He literally did everything he could as a player to put the Giants
    on his shoulders to get them to the promise land. You can't ask for anything more out of a player.
    Strahan essentially has done the samething for the team as a defensive player.

    The way he retired from the team was not what he had in mind, issues with the coach, perhaps
    issues with players and the constant media rumors of his retirement(although that was his fault).

    So now as a commentator(not journalist) he has the opportunity to allow some of his bitterness about
    the ended relationship flow through.

    I admit the early criticism on Eli before season has even started is a bit mind boggling but again that
    is due to the manner in which he left the team.

    In his eyes, he hoped that releasing the "retirement" rumors would allow his team to pick up the
    slack and play hard one last time for that beloved ring. But with an 8-8 record, it was very much
    half ***-ed...

    So in all his glory and hard work, his team did not return the same effort...

    Thoughts?

    [/quote]

    If that is the case...it makes me question whether or not Tiki is an adult man in his 30's.........that sounds the like the reasoning of an upset 3 year old boy...................

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    Enough about Tiki and Eli..... cat fight .....</P>


    Let's talk about important stuff like Liho</P>


    Does anyone go to god damn jail in Hollywood? Didn't Britney slam into someones parked car on videotape two weeks ago? No one in law enforcement cares about that? Don't the cops do stuff like this anymore? They still arrest people for committing crimes, right? Jesus, apparently not, because word is Lindsay <NOBR>Lohan</NOBR> will basically not be charged for 2 DUIs, 2 counts of possession of cocaine, transporting a narcotic into a custodial facility, driving on a suspended license, drinking underage and fleeing the scene of an accident. TMZ says: </P>
    <BLOCKQUOTE>...there is a "strong possibility" the Los Angeles County District Attorney's office will NOT file felony charges against Lindsay Lohan in connection with her two DUI arrests.
    ...charges may be filed tomorrow, and the D.A. is leaning toward rejecting three possible felonies. Sources say the D.A. almost certainly will not file cocaine charges in connection with her DUI bust Memorial Day weekend in Beverly <NOBR>Hills</NOBR>.
    As for her July 24 arrest in Santa Monica, the D.A. could charge her with felony cocaine possession, and bringing cocaine into a correctional facility -- also a felony. But we're told that the D.A. is inclined not to file those felony charges either.
    That basically leaves misdemeanor DUI charges for both incidents. If Lohan is found guilty of both, she'd have to serve a minimum of four days in jail.
    ...Lohan's mega-lawyer Blair <NOBR>Berk</NOBR> and prosecutors have been talking a lot and that spells a possible plea bargain.
    </BLOCKQUOTE>


    Keep in mind she had twice the legal limit of booze in her system as she raced down PCH like a T-Rex was chasin her, and her only punishment so far has been a nature hike in Utah. True story - A friend of mine lived in Colorado, and one night he left a bar drunk. He stumbled over to his car to wait for his friends, who were going to drive him home. He sat in the passenger seat for a few minutes, then turned the ignition on to run the heater. A cop in the parking lot saw this and gave him a DUI, even though the car never moved an inch, wasn't even in gear and he wasn't even behind the wheel. He sat in jail for 5 days waiting to see a judge. That's 500 percent more time than Lindsay has done for driving like James <NOBR>Bond</NOBR> while high off her ***, twice. </P>

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    [quote user="mjg407"]

    [quote user="AsianGiant"]On my way to work, I came up with a theory about Tiki.

    Basically, Tiki has always been a goal oriented person, never letting anyone or so it seems,
    get in the way of his goals. He literally did everything he could as a player to put the Giants
    on his shoulders to get them to the promise land. You can't ask for anything more out of a player.
    Strahan essentially has done the samething for the team as a defensive player.

    The way he retired from the team was not what he had in mind, issues with the coach, perhaps
    issues with players and the constant media rumors of his retirement(although that was his fault).

    So now as a commentator(not journalist) he has the opportunity to allow some of his bitterness about
    the ended relationship flow through.

    I admit the early criticism on Eli before season has even started is a bit mind boggling but again that
    is due to the manner in which he left the team.

    In his eyes, he hoped that releasing the "retirement" rumors would allow his team to pick up the
    slack and play hard one last time for that beloved ring. But with an 8-8 record, it was very much
    half ***-ed...

    So in all his glory and hard work, his team did not return the same effort...

    Thoughts?

    [/quote]Well since if I answer back on TAGF I get flamed and it's the big Tiki hate fest over there... I like what I read in Ralphie's blog....</p>


    Barber also seemed surprised by the reaction (or overreaction) to his comments.</p>


    “I just saw it on <span class="caps">ESPN</span> News and I’m like, ‘Are you kidding me?’” Tiki said. “Five sentences on a half-hour halftime show and now all of a sudden I’m going to be back page news? You’ve got to love New York.”</p>


    Which is true, and I read Eli's comments the way Tiki did, in that Eli was saying Tiki quit on the team. I do think Tiki is trying to break from the mold of being a Giant Homer and did it poorly this first outing. He needs to script his words better on how he describes Eli's leadership. Saying "Comical" is unprofessional and he should recant that. To say that Eli was uncomfortable in the leadership role is something all of us have observed. I would bet money, that if this took place in some other city not in the Northeast, nobody would have even noticed....</p>[/quote]

    more from Ralphie......



    <div class="entry" id="entry-15041">

    <h3 class="entry-header">Tiki: Don't Question My Heart</h3></div>While I was dining at one of greater Albany's finest eateries last
    night (no, not T. G. I. Fridays … a real, honest-to-goodness Italian
    restaurant), Tiki Barber did have more to say (surprise) about his war
    of words with Eli Manning long after I stopped listening to his Sirius <span class="caps">NFL</span> Radio show.



    Tiki seemed particularly bothered that Manning allegedly questioned his heart.</p>



    “He also said that I didn’t have any heart and he could see it on
    the field,” Tiki said on The Barber Shop. “I guess I really would have
    been a Hall of Famer if I had played with heart instead of rushing for
    1,650 yards with no heart. Who knows?</p>



    “(One) thing that I think every Giants fan knows and why, in some
    ways, some things ring hollow that Eli said, is I have never, ever,
    ever not left 100% of myself on the football field. And you can say
    whatever you want but don’t say that because that’s offensive.”</p>



    Actually, though I hate to quibble with a fellow media member --
    especially one who makes considerably more than I do -- that’s not
    exactly what Eli said. He never said Tiki played with no heart. He was
    criticizing Tiki for saying Tiki lost the heart to play last year.
    </p>



    “I guess I could have questioned his leadership skills last year
    with calling out the coach and having articles about him retiring in
    the middle of the season, and (how) he’s lost the heart (to play),”
    Manning said yesterday. “As a quarterback you’re reading that your
    running back has lost the heart to play the game and it’s about the
    10th week. I can see that a little bit at times.”</p>



    That last line (“I can see that a little bit at times”) is certainly
    debatable, but I don’t see Eli saying anywhere in that statement that
    Tiki didn’t have any heart.
    </p>



    It’s just another example of a reporter taking an athlete’s words out of context, I guess.</p>

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    <FONT color=#ff0000>I think Eli and Tiki need to go see some counseling</FONT>. Sounds like Tiki may need a hug....[:'(][:'(]

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    Veteran funnyman Bill Murray was arrested in Sweden earlier this week on suspicion of drunk driving.</p>


    Murray was stopped by police in Stockholm as he was driving a golf cart in the center of the city at 3:29 am on Monday morning. </p>


    Drunk golf cart driving? LOVE it!</p>


    Bill refused to take a breathalizer test and was taken to the police station for blood testing and processing.</p>


    Don’t drink and golf!</p>
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    Veteran funnyman Bill Murray was arrested in Sweden earlier this week on suspicion of drunk driving.</P>


    Murray was stopped by police in Stockholm as he was driving a golf cart in the center of the city at 3:29 am on Monday morning. </P>


    Drunk golf cart driving? LOVE it!</P>


    Bill refused to take a breathalizer test and was taken to the police station for blood testing and processing.</P>


    Don’t drink and golf!</P>



    http://perezhilton.com/
    [/quote]Carl Spackler arrested..... well at least he will gain eternal conciousness on his deathbed....</P>


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViiB_dE3Lhs</P>

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    Man, I want to go to rehab... it's much better than work....</P>


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    Barbie-Porn...</P>


    NEW YORK— Toy maker Mattel Inc. went to court Tuesday to declare that the name of its clean-cut Barbie dolls doesn't belong on a model's pornographic Web site.</P>


    In a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, Mattel said the Web site for an adult entertainer named China Barbie has tried to benefit from Mattel's success with the 48-year-old line of dolls, which includes Barbie's sister, Skipper, her best friend, Midge, and Skipper's boyfriend, Kevin.</P>


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    The lawsuit said Mattel had registered its trademarks to protect the Barbie line of dolls and the $1.6 billion in sales that it generates. Mattel said it has sold more than a billion Barbie dolls worldwide and a typical American girl owns eight of them.</P>

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    [quote user="AsianGiant"]On my way to work, I came up with a theory about Tiki.

    Basically, Tiki has always been a goal oriented person, never letting anyone or so it seems,
    get in the way of his goals. He literally did everything he could as a player to put the Giants
    on his shoulders to get them to the promise land. You can't ask for anything more out of a player.
    Strahan essentially has done the samething for the team as a defensive player.

    The way he retired from the team was not what he had in mind, issues with the coach, perhaps
    issues with players and the constant media rumors of his retirement(although that was his fault).

    So now as a commentator(not journalist) he has the opportunity to allow some of his bitterness about
    the ended relationship flow through.

    I admit the early criticism on Eli before season has even started is a bit mind boggling but again that
    is due to the manner in which he left the team.

    In his eyes, he hoped that releasing the "retirement" rumors would allow his team to pick up the
    slack and play hard one last time for that beloved ring. But with an 8-8 record, it was very much
    half ***-ed...

    So in all his glory and hard work, his team did not return the same effort...

    Thoughts?

    [/quote]</P>


    I agree and that has been my sentiment with Tiki from day 1.WE (fans &amp; players)all know how hard he worked to get the Giants to the SB and possibly a victory andWE all know that w/o him we would not have gotten to the playoffs for the past 2yrs. BUT and this is where I find fault with him... Tiki was apart of theTEAM and when the team failed regardless of whatHE did, he should have gone out likea team player and not a sole participant that didn't have anything to do with the loss(es) or lack of success in the playoffs.</P>


    This seperation from the Giants (i.e. players &amp; coaches) is what is pissing us "real fans" off about the situation, b/c it seems that he has no problem making it known that he did his part and that everyone else let him down. And that, IMO is bad business and is what wore out his welcome with alot of ppl in NY, which I don't condone, BUT I understand. Don't get me wrong, should he feel like that, of course, but when you sign on to be apart of this you take all of it, not just your share or what you contributed to it good or bad, you're a team player and that's that. I think Coughlin, Eli, and various other players on this team wanted Tiki to leave with a ring to reward him for what he did for this team and what he meant to this organization, but every story doesn't end with that fairy tale setting and unfortuntely he didn't go out like that. But EVERYONE wanted it for him and he knows that deep inside...b/call those ppl didn't just itfor him theyalso wanted it for the Giants! And as a former player he shouldn't be taking stabs like that atANYONE on this team, especially now as a broadcaster or whatever, as if theGiants don't have enough drama. And especially since it seems that he's doing this just so he can air out his frustrations on what he couldn't get. </P>


    How quickly he forgot just how hard these same people were on him for announcing hisretirement plans mid-season, and WE (fans, his fellow teammates, &amp; coaches) were all here supporting him and backing his decision and wishing him luck, hoping to send him out in the manner in which he deserved. So yeah people are pissed, and yeah we're sick of his mouth, b/c he's not being considerate of just how far these things can go when people carelessly put each other out there in the media! </P>


    *Calming down now* I'm a principles kinda girl and Tiki broke an honor code IMO with this one...BUT...</P>


    This doesn't change my opinion of him what-so-ever as a player,or as a former leader for this team. And outside of this setting I wouldn't dog him out or say anything negative about him. But that's my honest opinion on the situation and I felt towards the end, he handled things wrong. </P>

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