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[quote user="AsianGiant"]On my way to work, I came up with a theory about Tiki.
Basically, Tiki has always been a goal oriented person, never letting anyone or so it seems,
get in the way of his goals. He literally did everything he could as a player to put the Giants
on his shoulders to get them to the promise land. You can't ask for anything more out of a player.
Strahan essentially has done the samething for the team as a defensive player.
The way he retired from the team was not what he had in mind, issues with the coach, perhaps
issues with players and the constant media rumors of his retirement(although that was his fault).
So now as a commentator(not journalist) he has the opportunity to allow some of his bitterness about
the ended relationship flow through.
I admit the early criticism on Eli before season has even started is a bit mind boggling but again that
is due to the manner in which he left the team.
In his eyes, he hoped that releasing the "retirement" rumors would allow his team to pick up the
slack and play hard one last time for that beloved ring. But with an 8-8 record, it was very much
So in all his glory and hard work, his team did not return the same effort...
[/quote]Well since if I answer back on TAGF I get flamed and it's the big Tiki hate fest over there... I like what I read in Ralphie's blog....</P>
Barber also seemed surprised by the reaction (or overreaction) to his comments.</P>
“I just saw it on <SPAN class=caps>ESPN</SPAN> News and I’m like, ‘Are you kidding me?’” Tiki said. “Five sentences on a half-hour halftime show and now all of a sudden I’m going to be back page news? You’ve got to love New York.”</P>
Which is true, and I read Eli's comments the way Tiki did, in that Eli was saying Tiki quit on the team. I do think Tiki is trying to break from the mold of being a Giant Homer and did it poorly this first outing. He needs to script his words better on how he describes Eli's leadership. Saying "Comical" is unprofessional and he should recant that. To say that Eli was uncomfortable in the leadership role is something all of us have observed. I would bet money, that if this took place in some other city not in the Northeast, nobody would have even noticed....</P>[/quote]
more from Ralphie......
<DIV class=entry id=entry-15041>
<H3 class=entry-header>Tiki: Don't Question My Heart</H3></DIV>While I was dining at one of greater Albany's finest eateries last night (no, not T. G. I. Fridays … a real, honest-to-goodness Italian restaurant), Tiki Barber did have more to say (surprise) about his war of words with Eli Manning long after I stopped listening to his Sirius <SPAN class=caps>NFL</SPAN> Radio show.
Tiki seemed particularly bothered that Manning allegedly questioned his heart.</P>
“He also said that I didn’t have any heart and he could see it on the field,” Tiki said on The Barber Shop. “I guess I really would have been a Hall of Famer if I had played with heart instead of rushing for 1,650 yards with no heart. Who knows?</P>
“(One) thing that I think every Giants fan knows and why, in some ways, some things ring hollow that Eli said, is I have never, ever, ever not left 100% of myself on the football field. And you can say whatever you want but don’t say that because that’s offensive.”</P>
Actually, though I hate to quibble with a fellow media member -- especially one who makes considerably more than I do -- that’s not exactly what Eli said. He never said Tiki played with no heart. He was criticizing Tiki for saying Tiki lost the heart to play last year.</P>
“I guess I could have questioned his leadership skills last year with calling out the coach and having articles about him retiring in the middle of the season, and (how) he’s lost the heart (to play),” Manning said yesterday. “As a quarterback you’re reading that your running back has lost the heart to play the game and it’s about the 10th week. I can see that a little bit at times.”</P>
That last line (“I can see that a little bit at times”) is certainly debatable, but I don’t see Eli saying anywhere in that statement that Tiki didn’t have any heart.</P>
It’s just another example of a reporter taking an athlete’s words out of context, I guess.</P>
And this is WHY I feel the way that I do...when ppl open their mouths, they open up so much and for what, what is all of this about really? NOTHING! And Tiki is wrong...the article says that Eli states he didn't say anything when he READ (another media thing) after he announced his retirement that he lost his heart to play last year. </P>
But you see Tiki, this is why ppl are angry, b/c now we have to read about our former star RB and our QB's war of words. When all he had to do was leave the personal stuff out of the interview and just talk football...</P>