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    Re: Fleener runs a 4.45 at pro day

    [quote user="PIERCEnumber58rules"][quote user="Kruunch"][quote user="PIERCEnumber58rules"]I don't trust any of these pro day numbers. I've heard too many stories about 39.5 yard tracks that are slightly downhill, 44 lb barbells for bench press, etc. That said, I do like Fleener and wouldn't mind picking him at 32. Not sure if he's first round talent; the experts say he is not.[/quote]

    Generally the accepted practice is to average the Combine and Pro Day numbers (is also why a lot of players skip the Combine with "injuries").

    I still don't think Fleener goes in the first (although the Ravens does make a lot of sense).

    Broncos are possibly signing Tamme.[/quote]

    Yea, I go by Combine numbers primarily. If Fleener ran a 4.45 40 at his pro day, he's probably more like a 4.6-4.69 which still isn't bad. Mayock isn't too impressed with any of these TE's, and he doesn't think any are first round talent. He likes Fleener, Allen, and Charles all in the second round. Maybe we can trade our #1 and move back in the second. That way, if we do pick Fleener, the value will match the pick. BPA all the way![/quote]

    The last time we traded out of the first round was in 1975 when we traded our first round pick (2nd overall) for Craig Morton.

    The Cowboys chose Randy White.
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    Re: Fleener runs a 4.45 at pro day

    [quote user="Kruunch"][quote user="PIERCEnumber58rules"][quote user="Kruunch"][quote user="PIERCEnumber58rules"]I don't trust any of these pro day numbers. I've heard too many stories about 39.5 yard tracks that are slightly downhill, 44 lb barbells for bench press, etc. That said, I do like Fleener and wouldn't mind picking him at 32. Not sure if he's first round talent; the experts say he is not.[/quote]

    Generally the accepted practice is to average the Combine and Pro Day numbers (is also why a lot of players skip the Combine with "injuries").

    I still don't think Fleener goes in the first (although the Ravens does make a lot of sense).

    Broncos are possibly signing Tamme.[/quote]

    Yea, I go by Combine numbers primarily. If Fleener ran a 4.45 40 at his pro day, he's probably more like a 4.6-4.69 which still isn't bad. Mayock isn't too impressed with any of these TE's, and he doesn't think any are first round talent. He likes Fleener, Allen, and Charles all in the second round. Maybe we can trade our #1 and move back in the second. That way, if we do pick Fleener, the value will match the pick. BPA all the way![/quote]

    The last time we traded out of the first round was in 1975 when we traded our first round pick (2nd overall) for Craig Morton.

    The Cowboys chose Randy White.[/quote]

    Yea. LOL. I don't see it happening either. It would appear Reese isn't one for moving.

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    Re: Fleener runs a 4.45 at pro day

    I think he's definitely going to go mid first round after his performance today...I would love to have him on the roster.

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    Re: Fleener runs a 4.45 at pro day

    Not surprising, I thought he was a low 4.5 or high 4.4 guy on tape.

    Hes a hell of a talent, certainly has the frame to put on another 15 or so pounds, get himself up to the 260-265 range.

    He has the willingness to be a good blocker, just needs to add strength and a ton of technique work

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    Re: Fleener runs a 4.45 at pro day

    Thought Id just post this quick.

    Manningham vs. Fleener at their pro days

    Manningham 40 - 4.42
    Fleener 40 - 4.45

    Manningham vert - 35"
    Fleener vert - 37"

    And Fleener is 6" taller and 60 pounds heavier

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    Re: Fleener runs a 4.45 at pro day

    Giants TE coach Mike Pope at Stanford Pro Day today to check out TE Coby Fleener

    I don't think we should take a TE in the 1st. But if Pope really likes him maybe we will draft him


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    Re: Fleener runs a 4.45 at pro day

    I've been saying Fleener was going to impress at this pro day for over a month now. people were saying hes a early second round guy. and that at 32 if hes there we should go with a different choiced pick. this kid will instanlty uprgrade at any value what we have at TE and help the run blocking game... sigh* i think hes unattainable at 32 now hes a mid 20's guy now san fran might take him. **** i really wanted this guy even if he would of ran a 4.7 i would of still wanted him. hes pro ready and fits this scheme perfectly

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    Re: Fleener runs a 4.45 at pro day

    [quote user="rainierjef"]I've been saying Fleener was going to impress at this pro day for over a month now. people were saying hes a early second round guy. and that at 32 if hes there we should go with a different choiced pick. this kid will instanlty uprgrade at any value what we have at TE and help the run blocking game... sigh* i think hes unattainable at 32 now hes a mid 20's guy now san fran might take him. **** i really wanted this guy even if he would of ran a 4.7 i would of still wanted him. hes pro ready and fits this scheme perfectly[/quote]

    The thing is, if his stock did go up as you suggest it just means another guy who was likely unattainable before is now within reach. So it helps us even if we cant get him.


    You never know, maybe his moving up bumps a Devon Still down to us, or a Stephen Hill, or a Rueben Randle, or a Stephen Gilmore, Jerel Worthy, Fletcher Cox etc etc.

    If Reese would just email me his big board I would know!




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    [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="rainierjef"]I've been saying Fleener was going to impress at this pro day for over a month now. people were saying hes a early second round guy. and that at 32 if hes there we should go with a different choiced pick. this kid will instanlty uprgrade at any value what we have at TE and help the run blocking game... sigh* i think hes unattainable at 32 now hes a mid 20's guy now san fran might take him. **** i really wanted this guy even if he would of ran a 4.7 i would of still wanted him. hes pro ready and fits this scheme perfectly[/quote]

    The thing is, if his stock did go up as you suggest it just means another guy who was likely unattainable before is now within reach. So it helps us even if we cant get him.


    You never know, maybe his moving up bumps a Devon Still down to us, or a Stephen Hill, or a Rueben Randle, or a Stephen Gilmore, Jerel Worthy, Fletcher Cox etc etc.

    If Reese would just email me his big board I would know!



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    Re: Fleener runs a 4.45 at pro day

    Sadly I think hill goes between 17 and 25. Would love to have him though. One thing is for sure were drafting a wide out in the top three who it is I dunno but with our scouts talking to hill, randle, sanu, quick and child's I deff think were taking one. That tells me the front office doesn't think jerrnigan can cut it as the z and I agree with them. I wanna see jerrnigan as our third down back like the Vikings did with harvin or the chiefs do with mccluster I think he would excel in that role and he played some RB in college just like harvin

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