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    This guy has Osi part II written all over him........

    We need to use one of our 4th round picks for Jonathan Massaquoi. This guy is from Troy college, and looks like he has very simliar traits to Osi. Read this article:

    We begin this year's series with a player who stands a bit under the radar -- Troy defensive end Jonathan Massaquoi. The native of Monrovia Liberia, West Africa, started for two seasons at Troy after playing one season at Butler Community College in Kansas. After redshirting in 2009, Massaquoi broke out with an impressive first season in the Sun Belt with 13.5 sacks (11 solo) and 17 solo tackles for loss. In 2011, he built on that early success by increasing his quarterback hurry total (from four to eight) as his sack total went down to six (five solo). The cousin of Cleveland Browns receiver Mohamed Massaquoi and Minnesota Vikings tight end Visanthe Shiancoe, Massaquoi now looks to expand the Troy tradition of NFL pass-rushers, with DeMarcus Ware as the obvious gold standard.

    Pros: Ridiculous burst and very fast first step off the ball; Massaquoi will be a nightmare at any level for offensive tackles who don't get into their stances quickly. Displays impressive short-area agility and upper body strength to get past first blocks at the line of scrimmage; will flash past tackles unless they re-set quickly. Can slant inside out of a "wide-nine" formation and pursue. Lateral agility applies to his ability to peel off blocks in the pocket and pursue running backs. Agile enough to roll into intermediate coverage; he'd be a long-term asset to any heavy zone-blitz team. Has a decent bull-rush for his size, especially considering his tendency to come off the snap high. Will go sideline-to-sideline with great effort to stop the play and has tremendous open-field speed. Teams that leave Massaquoi unblocked at the line do so at their own peril.

    Cons: Doesn't always win the leverage battle, and he'll need some adjustment in that regard when going up against NFL blockers. Needs to get lower at first contact in a general sense. Can be negated by blocking backs as the outside guy in a five-man line. Gets blocked out fairly easily by tackles with good low base and quick setup. Still getting the hang of twists and stunts; seems especially prone to missing the gap when stunting inside on running plays. Occasionally gets stopped up when trying to read the action at the line; play diagnosis seems to be a work in progress. While his drops into coverage are athletically impressive, he runs all over the place at times and will need work locking on to zones and assignments. A bit of a one-trick pony from a gap perspective -- he needs to be outside the tackle to make a real impact at a time when many teams want their defensive ends to rotate inside in different schemes. Got most of his sacks against less than ideal competition for NFL analysis.

    Conclusion: Massaquoi is an interesting "tweener" for his size and position. He'll most likely be asked to switch to outside linebacker at the NFL level, but he plays well with his hand down and seems to have a good grasp of the fundamentals. He doesn't play with the core strength of a James Harrison or LaMarr Woodley, but I wouldn't be quick to make the obvious DeMarcus Ware comparison either, because Massaquoi is the better player (at least in a raw sense) dropping into coverage and Ware again plays with more core strength. He's quick, but not quite as explosive as Von Miller.


    Basically, Massaquoi does everything decent-to-well you'd want a man playing his position to do. If his skills were more refined, he'd be a first-round lock. As it is, the team willing to put in the finishing work (starting with the weight room) could have a Pro Bowler and quarterback sack leader on their hands sooner than later.


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    Re: This guy has Osi part II written all over him........

    On film he does remind a bit of Osi. His burst and flexibility will translate well at the next level.

    He could be a useful situational pass rusher, but I fear his frame is mostly maxed out already. At exactly 6'2 and 264 pounds I dont think he can put on much if any weight.

    He does have pretty exceptional arm length too. Just half inch shoter than JPP, despite being 3" shorter. He has a lot of technique stuff to learn as well, doesnt consistently use his hands.

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    Re: This guy has Osi part II written all over him........

    [quote user="slipknottin"]On film he does remind a bit of Osi. His burst and flexibility will translate well at the next level.

    He could be a useful situational pass rusher, but I fear his frame is mostly maxed out already. At exactly 6'2 and 264 pounds I dont think he can put on much if any weight.

    He does have pretty exceptional arm length too. Just half inch shoter than JPP, despite being 3" shorter. He has a lot of technique stuff to learn as well, doesnt consistently use his hands.[/quote]Physically he has some skill but the guy cant find the ball. He just doesnt seem to have any kind of instincts whatsoever. He can beat a tackle off the edge though and those guys are worth a shot on

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    Re: This guy has Osi part II written all over him........

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="slipknottin"]On film he does remind a bit of Osi. His burst and flexibility will translate well at the next level.

    He could be a useful situational pass rusher, but I fear his frame is mostly maxed out already. At exactly 6'2 and 264 pounds I dont think he can put on much if any weight.

    He does have pretty exceptional arm length too. Just half inch shoter than JPP, despite being 3" shorter. He has a lot of technique stuff to learn as well, doesnt consistently use his hands.[/quote]Physically he has some skill but the guy cant find the ball. He just doesnt seem to have any kind of instincts whatsoever. He can beat a tackle off the edge though and those guys are worth a shot on[/quote]

    Giants have arguably the best coaching staff in the league and a core group of veteran DE's that can develop this kid's ability to locate the ball. JPP might be the most "raw" talent that I've seen in a number of years and look at what he has become. If the kid is willing to learn and absorb the information, he will be successful.
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    Re: This guy has Osi part II written all over him........



    Some people have him at OLB for a 3-4 scheme, not sure he has the size...




    CBS: "Was productive in his two seasons on the field at Troy, collecting a combined 31.0 tackles for loss and 19.5 sacks - led the team in both categories each of last two seasons. Shorter than ideal and lacks the ideal size to keep his hand on the ground. Played mostly in three-point stance as an end in Troy's three-man front and lacks a natural position for the next level. Has been known to take a few plays off and will disappear for stretches. Coming off a pedestrian season compared to his 2010 production."


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    Re: This guy has Osi part II written all over him........

    I have him going to us in the 3rd round in my mock draft.

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    Re: This guy has Osi part II written all over him........

    To me, if you are going to be compared to Osi, you need a great initial burst and an amazing ability to get the strip sack. Osi is the strip sack king in the NFL.

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    Re: This guy has Osi part II written all over him........

    Good find! I go to 3 Troy University games a year. I have been watching him a while now. He played LB and DE at Troy. He has a lot of athleticism and a great burst. He is a bit more mean spirited than Osi.. I don't remember him being that dominant against the ACC and SEC teams and he was even almost invisible against some Sun Belt teams. Guys like Jernigan and this years OG Brown ( who we should consider) played well no matter who they were playing. 4th round sounds like a value for Massaquoi but I am not sold on him.

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    Re: This guy has Osi part II written all over him........

    Since this could be the last year for both Osi and Kiwi, we could use him going forward. That is, if the scouts are as high on him as some of y'all are.
    We need our coaches to assign playing time based on something other than player salary.

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    Re: This guy has Osi part II written all over him........

    Sounds like he's a non factor against the run, with Reese making some noise about extending Osi, can we really afford another pass rush specialist?

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