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    Mayocks Top 100 Players..

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...module=HP11_cp



    Thought this list was interesting, biggest surprise is Chandler Jones at 9, looks like he will go earlier then 32 when most on these boards were saying he would be a reach at our draft slot.

    what do you guys think?



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    Re: Mayocks Top 100 Players..

    He's got Doug Martin at 17, but many mocks have him falling to the 2nd round. I'd love to have Martin at number 32.

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    no idea who he is.
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    Re: Mayocks Top 100 Players..

    [quote user="DragonSoul"]no idea who he is.[/quote]
    RB out of Boise State.

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    [quote user="Drez"][quote user="DragonSoul"]no idea who he is.[/quote]
    RB out of Boise State.
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    Kinda Surprised how low he has Lamar Miller. I do think Miller should be behind Wilson and Martin,but he has em all the way at 82nd behind Iseah Pead, and LaMichael James. That would put him in the mid/late 3rd round. That's way below where I thought.

    I have always said, I thought Dwayne Allen and Coby Fleener are much closer in rating than their hype levels would indicate. Mayock seems to agree as they are only 5 spots apart. I think both are good in their own way, but that Dwayne Allen is receiving far less media hype than Fleener.

    I also think Chandler Jones rated that high is no fluke. A lot of teams will have him rated there. '

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    [quote user="JJC7301"]He's got Doug Martin at 17, but many mocks have him falling to the 2nd round. I'd love to have Martin at number 32.[/quote] How come a couple months ago when i had said i believe Martin was the 2nd best RB behind Richardson, well before it was seemingly more of a consensus, no one listened to me???lolj/k.. But ya, i also said he would rise into 1st rd considerations, and this was when he was perdicted by some as a 3rd rder... What i'm saying is, the kids mad good, and i'm glad people caught on.. He litteraly can do everything, including KR"s... As i've always said, hes the next in line of MJD/R.RICE, and teams are sick of letting those guys pass em by, only to wonder how they did, a couple yrs later..







    Doug Martin is the guy i'm hoping for at pick 32, outside of Whitney Mercilus, whos another one i said would reach 1st rd months ago.. But, hes rised to far, and very doubtful he gets to us.. Those are my 2guys right there, Martin and Mercilus.. If i was a GM, those would be the 2guys i'd have realistaclly at the top of my board, and then i'd fill it out from there on...


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    [quote user="JJC7301"]He's got Doug Martin at 17, but many mocks have him falling to the 2nd round. I'd love to have Martin at number 32.[/quote] How come a couple months ago when i had said i believe Martin was the 2nd best RB behind Richardson, well before it was seemingly more of a consensus, no one listened to me???lolj/k.. But ya, i also said he would rise into 1st rd considerations, and this was when he was perdicted by some as a 3rd rder... What i'm saying is, the kids mad good, and i'm glad people caught on.. He litteraly can do everything, including KR"s... As i've always said, hes the next in line of MJD/R.RICE, and teams are sick of letting those guys pass em by, only to wonder how they did, a couple yrs later..







    Doug Martin is the guy i'm hoping for at pick 32, outside of Whitney Mercilus, whos another one i said would reach 1st rd months ago.. But, hes rised to far, and very doubtful he gets to us.. Those are my 2guys right there, Martin and Mercilus.. If i was a GM, those would be the 2guys i'd have realistaclly at the top of my board, and then i'd fill it out from there on...

    [/quote]

    You def deserve your due on Doug Martin. You have been screaming him from mountain tops for months now, back when people were saying he is a 3rd rounder. I remember you saying he would rise similar to Ryan Mathews pre-draft rise.

    I think you also got Fletcher Cox right too. He was always a top 5 DT, many are regarding him as the top DT in the draft now.

    I have been saying for some time now that Chandler Jones was undervalued when people were saying he wasnt a 1st round talent. I also said a few months ago, when people thought he would be a top 15 pick, that Andre Branch was being overvalued. I still think he is a good player, but Brandon Thompson deserved more credit for Branch's production than people were recognizing. Another guy you and I both agreed on that analysts now seem to be coming around to our way of thinking is Stephen Gilmore. He might be the fastest riser in the draft of late.

    Im also gonna take claim to 1 last guy who wasnt even on Mayocks top 100 who I said months ago was being greatly overvalued, and that is Markelle Martin. Many analysts in January had him as the top safety in the draft. I never saw it that way and have always said he looks to me like a 3rd round prospect. I have said repeatedly, Mark Barron aside, I do not much care for this safety class, particularly if you are talking about free safeties. It is a terrible FS class. Considering how much and how often teams tried to throw against OSU this year, coupled with just how bad OSU's pass defense was, I do not think Markelle made nearly enough plays.

    Lastly, And I know im not alone on this 1 as many have said it with me, but I have been saying that Zach Brown was highly overrated and that those who want him as our 1st round pick are crazy.

    1 thing that is clear to me seeing Mayock's list is he still values film over combine stars.

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    Re: Mayocks Top 100 Players..

    [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]

    [quote user="JJC7301"]He's got Doug Martin at 17, but many mocks have him falling to the 2nd round. I'd love to have Martin at number 32.[/quote] How come a couple months ago when i had said i believe Martin was the 2nd best RB behind Richardson, well before it was seemingly more of a consensus, no one listened to me???lolj/k.. But ya, i also said he would rise into 1st rd considerations, and this was when he was perdicted by some as a 3rd rder... What i'm saying is, the kids mad good, and i'm glad people caught on.. He litteraly can do everything, including KR"s... As i've always said, hes the next in line of MJD/R.RICE, and teams are sick of letting those guys pass em by, only to wonder how they did, a couple yrs later..







    Doug Martin is the guy i'm hoping for at pick 32, outside of Whitney Mercilus, whos another one i said would reach 1st rd months ago.. But, hes rised to far, and very doubtful he gets to us.. Those are my 2guys right there, Martin and Mercilus.. If i was a GM, those would be the 2guys i'd have realistaclly at the top of my board, and then i'd fill it out from there on...

    [/quote]

    You def deserve your due on Doug Martin. You have been screaming him from mountain tops for months now, back when people were saying he is a 3rd rounder. I remember you saying he would rise similar to Ryan Mathews pre-draft rise.

    I think you also got Fletcher Cox right too. He was always a top 5 DT, many are regarding him as the top DT in the draft now.

    I have been saying for some time now that Chandler Jones was undervalued when people were saying he wasnt a 1st round talent. I also said a few months ago, when people thought he would be a top 15 pick, that Andre Branch was being overvalued. I still think he is a good player, but Brandon Thompson deserved more credit for Branch's production than people were recognizing. Another guy you and I both agreed on that analysts now seem to be coming around to our way of thinking is Stephen Gilmore. He might be the fastest riser in the draft of late.

    Im also gonna take claim to 1 last guy who wasnt even on Mayocks top 100 who I said months ago was being greatly overvalued, and that is Markelle Martin. Many analysts in January had him as the top safety in the draft. I never saw it that way and have always said he looks to me like a 3rd round prospect. I have said repeatedly, Mark Barron aside, I do not much care for this safety class, particularly if you are talking about free safeties. It is a terrible FS class. Considering how much and how often teams tried to throw against OSU this year, coupled with just how bad OSU's pass defense was, I do not think Markelle made nearly enough plays.

    Lastly, And I know im not alone on this 1 as many have said it with me, but I have been saying that Zach Brown was highly overrated and that those who want him as our 1st round pick are crazy.

    1 thing that is clear to me seeing Mayock's list is he still values film over combine stars.
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    Who said Martin was the top safety in this draft? So I know who to ignore. I have never heard anyone suggest anyone other than Mark Barron was the top safety in this draft. I agree though, down year for safeties.

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    Re: Mayocks Top 100 Players..

    [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]


    [quote user="JJC7301"]He's got Doug Martin at 17, but many mocks have him falling to the 2nd round. I'd love to have Martin at number 32.[/quote] How come a couple months ago when i had said i believe Martin was the 2nd best RB behind Richardson, well before it was seemingly more of a consensus, no one listened to me???lolj/k.. But ya, i also said he would rise into 1st rd considerations, and this was when he was perdicted by some as a 3rd rder... What i'm saying is, the kids mad good, and i'm glad people caught on.. He litteraly can do everything, including KR"s... As i've always said, hes the next in line of MJD/R.RICE, and teams are sick of letting those guys pass em by, only to wonder how they did, a couple yrs later..







    Doug Martin is the guy i'm hoping for at pick 32, outside of Whitney Mercilus, whos another one i said would reach 1st rd months ago.. But, hes rised to far, and very doubtful he gets to us.. Those are my 2guys right there, Martin and Mercilus.. If i was a GM, those would be the 2guys i'd have realistaclly at the top of my board, and then i'd fill it out from there on...




    [/quote]

    You def deserve your due on Doug Martin. You have been screaming him from mountain tops for months now, back when people were saying he is a 3rd rounder. I remember you saying he would rise similar to Ryan Mathews pre-draft rise.

    I think you also got Fletcher Cox right too. He was always a top 5 DT, many are regarding him as the top DT in the draft now.

    I have been saying for some time now that Chandler Jones was undervalued when people were saying he wasnt a 1st round talent. I also said a few months ago, when people thought he would be a top 15 pick, that Andre Branch was being overvalued. I still think he is a good player, but Brandon Thompson deserved more credit for Branch's production than people were recognizing. Another guy you and I both agreed on that analysts now seem to be coming around to our way of thinking is Stephen Gilmore. He might be the fastest riser in the draft of late.

    Im also gonna take claim to 1 last guy who wasnt even on Mayocks top 100 who I said months ago was being greatly overvalued, and that is Markelle Martin. Many analysts in January had him as the top safety in the draft. I never saw it that way and have always said he looks to me like a 3rd round prospect. I have said repeatedly, Mark Barron aside, I do not much care for this safety class, particularly if you are talking about free safeties. It is a terrible FS class. Considering how much and how often teams tried to throw against OSU this year, coupled with just how bad OSU's pass defense was, I do not think Markelle made nearly enough plays.

    Lastly, And I know im not alone on this 1 as many have said it with me, but I have been saying that Zach Brown was highly overrated and that those who want him as our 1st round pick are crazy.

    1 thing that is clear to me seeing Mayock's list is he still values film over combine stars.
    [/quote] ya, you definetly were on chandler jones before most, as far as thinking he'd rise.. I'll take claim to Whitney Mercilus on the DE note.. I actually like Markelle Martin.. I like his speed/ability to lay the wood.. I could see him turning momentum with monster hits on sundays.. I like em more then i do Brandon Taylor... I would probably put martin 2nd, behind Harrison Smith in my S rankings..




    As far as Zach Brown, i agree.. I've kinda always been Ho-Hum on him.. I like playmakers, and guys who have football instincts more then anything else, and also smarts... Zach Brown has one thing going for him, and thats elite athletic ability.. I didn't like the ILLINOIS LB last yr, that many on here did, and i spoke adamently about that before the draft, and i feel like Brown is similar, as hes kinda making his move based on Athletic Ability and Potential, and not enough on field plays...


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