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    PFW Beat Writers Mock (4/24)






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    Interesting, since all of the picks are made by the teams' beat writers . . . . . except that Paul Schwartz made the Giants pick (Fleener), whichprobably assures that we will not take Fleener. The guy is an idiot.


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    Re: PFW Beat Writers Mock (4/24)

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    http://cache.profootballweekly.com/2...nts-mock-draft




    Interesting, since all of the picks are made by the teams' beat writers . . . . . except that Paul Schwartz made the Giants pick (Fleener), whichprobably assures that we will not take Fleener. The guy is an idiot.




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    I just don't get the Fleener love affair. He might be there at 64 for all we know. I would just be so dissappointed if we picked him.

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    Re: PFW Beat Writers Mock (4/24)

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    http://cache.profootballweekly.com/2...nts-mock-draft




    Interesting, since all of the picks are made by the teams' beat writers . . . . . except that Paul Schwartz made the Giants pick (Fleener), which*probably assures that we will not take Fleener.* The guy is an idiot.* *




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    I just don't get the Fleener love affair.* He might be there at 64 for all we know.* I would just be so dissappointed if we picked him.

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    Why? He's the best rated TE in this draft, played in a pro-style offense at Stanford under a coach who just took his NFL team to the NFC Championship, and he'll most likely be BPA on the boards if he drops to us.

    And oh yeah, we need a TE desperately.

    Why on earth would we take him?!
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    Re: PFW Beat Writers Mock (4/24)

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    http://cache.profootballweekly.com/2...nts-mock-draft




    Interesting, since all of the picks are made by the teams' beat writers . . . . . except that Paul Schwartz made the Giants pick (Fleener), whichprobably assures that we will not take Fleener. The guy is an idiot.




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    I just don't get the Fleener love affair. He might be there at 64 for all we know. I would just be so dissappointed if we picked him.




    [/quote] Why? He's the best rated TE in this draft, played in a pro-style offense at Stanford under a coach who just took his NFL team to the NFC Championship, and he'll most likely be BPA on the boards if he drops to us. And oh yeah, we need a TE desperately. Why on earth would we take him?![/quote]




    He's a Travis Beckum wannabe.




    Unless this kid can block (which he can't) he serves no real purpose for our offense. Our problems on offense are in the running game. O line (where it seems there may not be value at 32) or RB (and there should be good value there at 32) would be my preference.




    D line, O line and RB. to me those are our most pressing needs, especially if we deal Osi.




    TE is way down the list....WAY down the list. Don't forget we also signed Bennett.

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    Re: PFW Beat Writers Mock (4/24)

    [quote user="Morehead State"]He's a Travis Beckum wannabe.




    Unless this kid can block (which he can't) he serves no real purpose for our offense.* [/quote]

    You havent actually watched Fleener play at all, have you?

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    Fleener is nothing like Beckum.

    If you are going to make silly comparisons you need to back them up. He isnt a great blocker, but he is better than Beckum ever was and he has the potential to learn, where Beckum never really did.

    He is much taller than Beckum and uses his height and size well to go up and get the ball out of the air with his hands, using his body to shield off defenders. This has made him a good red zone target. Beckum, on the other hand, has never ever been physical enough and has a bad habit of body catching when he shouldn't. He is terrible at using his body and is herefor very bad at being a red zone defender.

    I would not be upset with a Fleener pick, although I do think he might be a bit overhyped right now. As I have said in the past, I think Dwayne Allen is much closer to Fleener in ability than most people. They are different types of players for sure, but comparable and you have heard very little in the media about Allen.

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    Re: PFW Beat Writers Mock (4/24)

    [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Morehead State"]He's a Travis Beckum wannabe.





    Unless this kid can block (which he can't) he serves no real purpose for our offense. [/quote] You havent actually watched Fleener play at all, have you?[/quote]


    Only highlights. I admit that I don't know much about the kid. And its not the point.


    A TE who's not "all world" like Russ Francis, isn't worth our first round pick given our team's situation. Our team has problems in the run game. We threw for 5000 yards and have a great passing attack. I know we need to go BPA. I get that. But a TE just makes no sense to me.


    On our team, with the players we have now, its not an impactful position. Give me a TE who can block, I mean really block, and who can occasionally go get a pass and pick up a big first down. That would help the New York Giants.

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    Re: PFW Beat Writers Mock (4/24)

    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kruunch"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="GMENAGAIN"]


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    http://cache.profootballweekly.com/2...nts-mock-draft




    Interesting, since all of the picks are made by the teams' beat writers . . . . . except that Paul Schwartz made the Giants pick (Fleener), which*probably assures that we will not take Fleener.* The guy is an idiot.* *




    [/quote]




    I just don't get the Fleener love affair.* He might be there at 64 for all we know.* I would just be so dissappointed if we picked him.




    [/quote] Why? He's the best rated TE in this draft, played in a pro-style offense at Stanford under a coach who just took his NFL team to the NFC Championship, and he'll most likely be BPA on the boards if he drops to us. And oh yeah, we need a TE desperately. Why on earth would we take him?![/quote]




    He's a Travis Beckum wannabe.




    Unless this kid can block (which he can't) he serves no real purpose for our offense.* Our problems on offense are in the running game.* O line (where it seems there may not be value at 32) or RB (and there should be good value there at 32) would be my preference.




    D line, O line and RB.* to me those are our most pressing needs, especially if we deal Osi.




    TE is way down the list....WAY down the list.* Don't forget we also signed Bennett.

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    I think you have that reversed.

    Beckum was a Fleener (of the future) wannabe.

    Fleener is much more polished and accomplished then Beckum was coming out of college.

    Also Fleener is taller, faster and has better hands. He's the only high rated receiving TE in this draft that actually plays tight into the tackle (how we run our TEs).

    The knocks on his blocking are that he doesn't *standout* as a blocker, which isn't to say that he's bad at it (he also wasn't asked to block a ton either). It's brought up because it's the only possible knock people can find on his game. The idiot talk about "elite" burst is ridiculous ... name a TE in the NFL who has "elite" acceleration. And he runs a 40 as fast as any TE in the league.

    I don't think he'll be Jimmy Graham or Antonio Gates (he doesn't have that level of athleticism imo) but he could very well turn out to be a Rob Gronkowski.
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    Re: PFW Beat Writers Mock (4/24)

    [quote user="Kruunch"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kruunch"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="GMENAGAIN"]





    http://cache.profootballweekly.com/2...nts-mock-draft




    Interesting, since all of the picks are made by the teams' beat writers . . . . . except that Paul Schwartz made the Giants pick (Fleener), whichprobably assures that we will not take Fleener. The guy is an idiot.




    [/quote]




    I just don't get the Fleener love affair. He might be there at 64 for all we know. I would just be so dissappointed if we picked him.




    [/quote] Why? He's the best rated TE in this draft, played in a pro-style offense at Stanford under a coach who just took his NFL team to the NFC Championship, and he'll most likely be BPA on the boards if he drops to us. And oh yeah, we need a TE desperately. Why on earth would we take him?![/quote]




    He's a Travis Beckum wannabe.




    Unless this kid can block (which he can't) he serves no real purpose for our offense. Our problems on offense are in the running game. O line (where it seems there may not be value at 32) or RB (and there should be good value there at 32) would be my preference.




    D line, O line and RB. to me those are our most pressing needs, especially if we deal Osi.




    TE is way down the list....WAY down the list. Don't forget we also signed Bennett.




    [/quote] I think you have that reversed. Beckum was a Fleener (of the future) wannabe. Fleener is much more polished and accomplished then Beckum was coming out of college. Also Fleener is taller, faster and has better hands. He's the only high rated receiving TE in this draft that actually plays tight into the tackle (how we run our TEs). The knocks on his blocking are that he doesn't *standout* as a blocker, which isn't to say that he's bad at it (he also wasn't asked to block a ton either). It's brought up because it's the only possible knock people can find on his game. The idiot talk about "elite" burst is ridiculous ... name a TE in the NFL who has "elite" acceleration. And he runs a 40 as fast as any TE in the league. I don't think he'll be Jimmy Graham or Antonio Gates (he doesn't have that level of athleticism imo) but he could very well turn out to be a Rob Gronkowski.[/quote]




    I think the kind of TE we need can be had in later rounds. It seems a reach in the context of our tendancies and our needs on the field. For another team, maybe not.




    We had pretty average at best TE play (in the pass catching side) and moved the ball well. I just think our running game is a huge problem. O line and RB seem to me to be great needs.




    Not saying that it's essential we address that in rounds one or two. Depends on value. But a TE there seems a poor decision.




    It could very well be that D line or RB may be the best value at 32. I still think thats where we are going.

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    Re: PFW Beat Writers Mock (4/24)

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    http://cache.profootballweekly.com/2...nts-mock-draft




    Interesting, since all of the picks are made by the teams' beat writers . . . . . except that Paul Schwartz made the Giants pick (Fleener), which*probably assures that we will not take Fleener.* The guy is an idiot.* *

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