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    Draft Game



    OK fellas. The boards are friggin dead. Its the curse of being SB champs. not much to whine about.




    Maybe we can play "Should draft, will draft".




    Started this in our thread.







    Giants first round pick.




    Should draft: David Wilson




    Will draft: Chandler Jones







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    Let's argue about Osi. I could go all day with that one. Unfortunately I know nothing about college ball so really can't comment about whom the Giants should draft.

    I will say this, some folks have us drafting Dont'a Hightower but I just don't see it. The days of Levon Kirkland and Jeremiah Trotter manning the middle are long gone, it isn't a running league anymore. No need for a stand-up nose guard at MLB.

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    [quote user="Coach Carter"]Let's argue about Osi. I could go all day with that one. Unfortunately I know nothing about college ball so really can't comment about whom the Giants should draft. I will say this, some folks have us drafting Dont'a Hightower but I just don't see it. The days of Levon Kirkland and Jeremiah Trotter manning the middle are long gone, it isn't a running league anymore. No need for a stand-up nose guard at MLB.[/quote]




    You may not NEED to run the ball, but it helps a lot. Our running game is very shaky right now. Last year we struggled there and Eli almost got killed a couple times. (good thing he is made of synthetic soft tissue and has no skeleton)




    My hope BTW is that Osi is traded on draft day. Thats why i think we might lean to Jones.




    I think though that the running game should be addressed both with O line help and RB help in the draft.

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    Re: Draft Game

    Should draft (or at least who I HOPE we draft): Doug Martin
    Will draft: Jonathan Martin

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    [quote user="egyptian420"]Should draft (or at least who I HOPE we draft): Doug Martin
    Will draft: Jonathan Martin[/quote]

    I will not be a happy camper if Big Blue draft Jonathan Martin but I get it , the value at the end of the 1st is great if Martin or Adams still available.

    So, I hope they draft Devon Still.
    And will draft, Coby Fleener.
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    Should draft: Levonte David, Brockers




    Will draft: Mike "Legalize it" Adams




    I think Brockers could fall with his lack of sacks and pass rush skills, if not I think at pick 32 Levonte David will be the best player available. He's not a need as he's not a MLB and we already have Boley, J Will,and Kiwi. I think he has potential to be a star at WLB. He's a 3 down LB and a true football. player. I don't have a problem with drafting greatness to replace something good.

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    So you are willing to trade the best pass-rushing end on the Giants and draft another defensive end? that would make us the Bills not the Giants - look at what they have been doing the past few years with running backs.

    Osi is a stud, give the man a bump in contract and see what he can do fully healthy. The guy has been playing on one leg, knee and hip for the past couple of years and have been very productive. You just don't find guys like that in the draft.

    I want a guard, tackle or center/guard with our first or second round pick. We need help on the inside.

    And I want a bruising running back.

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    [quote user="Coach Carter"]So you are willing to trade the best pass-rushing end on the Giants and draft another defensive end? that would make us the Bills not the Giants - look at what they have been doing the past few years with running backs. Osi is a stud, give the man a bump in contract and see what he can do fully healthy. The guy has been playing on one leg, knee and hip for the past couple of years and have been very productive. You just don't find guys like that in the draft. I want a guard, tackle or center/guard with our first or second round pick. We need help on the inside. And I want a bruising running back.[/quote]




    In a heartbeat.




    Osi is a part time player for us. He's the third best DE on the team. It isn't a trade of Osi for a rookie. (by the way I said that I want a RB). Its an opportunity to free up almost $5MM in cap space. Money that could be used to sign Victor Cruz and also help with room to sign the draftees and other FA's.




    And we don't have the cap room to resign Osi. I don't think (despite what the team line may be) its even a possibility. I think its either trade Osi now, or keep him for the last year of his deal and then let him go. Its not the end of the world if he stays and plays out his contract. But I'd prefer he be traded now.




    And you mention that he's been playing hurt. Well he's hurt a lot and now he's passed 30. Do you think an older version of Osi will be healthier than the younger version was?

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    [quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="Coach Carter"]So you are willing to trade the best pass-rushing end on the Giants and draft another defensive end? that would make us the Bills not the Giants - look at what they have been doing the past few years with running backs. Osi is a stud, give the man a bump in contract and see what he can do fully healthy. The guy has been playing on one leg, knee and hip for the past couple of years and have been very productive. You just don't find guys like that in the draft. I want a guard, tackle or center/guard with our first or second round pick. We need help on the inside. And I want a bruising running back.[/quote]




    In a heartbeat.




    Osi is a part time player for us. He's the third best DE on the team. It isn't a trade of Osi for a rookie. (by the way I said that I want a RB). Its an opportunity to free up almost $5MM in cap space. Money that could be used to sign Victor Cruz and also help with room to sign the draftees and other FA's.




    And we don't have the cap room to resign Osi. I don't think (despite what the team line may be) its even a possibility. I think its either trade Osi now, or keep him for the last year of his deal and then let him go. Its not the end of the world if he stays and plays out his contract. But I'd prefer he be traded now.




    And you mention that he's been playing hurt. Well he's hurt a lot and now he's passed 30. Do you think an older version of Osi will be healthier than the younger version was?




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    Osi the third best DE on this team and still a top DE in the NFL. He's a starter on almost any other team than the Giants. He's easily our best edge rusher and a game changer with the way he can cause FFs.




    Osi wants to start more than anything else. I think that will be what stops him from resigning with the Giants. MM was a third round pick. If we can get a an MM type of player for Osi then I'm for a trade. It's not like we don't have Kiwi, which is not much of a drop off versus the pass and an improvement in run defense.

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    [quote user="Morehead State"]

    [quote user="Coach Carter"]So you are willing to trade the best pass-rushing end on the Giants and draft another defensive end? that would make us the Bills not the Giants - look at what they have been doing the past few years with running backs. Osi is a stud, give the man a bump in contract and see what he can do fully healthy. The guy has been playing on one leg, knee and hip for the past couple of years and have been very productive. You just don't find guys like that in the draft. I want a guard, tackle or center/guard with our first or second round pick. We need help on the inside. And I want a bruising running back.[/quote]




    In a heartbeat.




    Osi is a part time player for us.* He's the third best DE on the team.* It isn't a trade of Osi for a rookie.* (by the way I said that I want a RB).* Its an opportunity to free up almost $5MM in cap space.* Money that could be used to sign Victor Cruz and also help with room to sign the draftees and other FA's.




    And we don't have the cap room to resign Osi.* I don't think (despite what the team line may be) its even a possibility.* I think its either trade Osi now, or keep him for the last year of his deal and then let him go.* Its not the end of the world if he stays and plays out his contract.* But I'd prefer he be traded now.




    And you mention that he's been playing hurt.* Well he's hurt a lot and now he's passed 30.* Do you think an older version of Osi will be healthier than the younger version was?

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    Yes I do. Osi had the hip procedure one year and the knee the next. Those were his two major ailments. With that resolved, you will see an element he did not have the last two years - the chase. Osi could not run after he did his initial burst up-field.

    Also, you have to stop with this "third best defensive end" nonsense. Osi is being compared to Tuck and JPP, these guys are (all around) all-pro and possibly future hall of fame defensive ends. Yet Osi is still the best PASS RUSHER on the Giants. It isn't like being third best overall defensive end is an insult, it is all relative.

    Unless you work for the Giants, I don't want to hear anything about cap space, where there is a will, there is a way.

    The Giants got to and won the superbowl because of their pass rush and it will remain that way.

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