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    Sounds like there weren't any "steals" at this spot so the pick makes sense. Obviously it would've been nice if somebody was desperate to trade into the spot, but I guess the other GM's saw what Reese saw and weren't willing to give up much.

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    [quote user="Morehead State"]

    [quote user="lawl"][quote user="slipknottin"]Talking to Garafolo a bit, he says he was told Glenn was higher on their draft board, does not know if there were other players higher, Wilson was definately higher than Martin however. He says the giants thought if there was a run on HBs that guys like Pead, Polk, James, etc would all be gone before they picked in the 2nd. They clearly felt the talent drop off after the 2nd round at HB was rather substantial. Thought Wilson was substantially better than the other HBs remaining, so they pulled the trigger now, rather than missing out on a bunch of HBs they liked by the time their 2nd round pick came up. Makes sense from that aspect. So its a bit of a reach, but if there is a run on HBs and a bunch go second round, that may have been really their only choice.[/quote] This makes it much worse. Stick to your big board. We had a Guy rated higher that could potentiallyplay rt. A run on hbs is great for us. A higher rated Guy would most definitely fall to us in the 2nd round if this supposed run on HBs occurs.[/quote]




    You're still mad?

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    Yes. If what garafalo says is true, then I need no more confirmation

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    [quote user="lawl"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="lawl"][quote user="slipknottin"]Talking to Garafolo a bit, he says he was told Glenn was higher on their draft board, does not know if there were other players higher, Wilson was definately higher than Martin however. He says the giants thought if there was a run on HBs that guys like Pead, Polk, James, etc would all be gone before they picked in the 2nd. They clearly felt the talent drop off after the 2nd round at HB was rather substantial. Thought Wilson was substantially better than the other HBs remaining, so they pulled the trigger now, rather than missing out on a bunch of HBs they liked by the time their 2nd round pick came up. Makes sense from that aspect. So its a bit of a reach, but if there is a run on HBs and a bunch go second round, that may have been really their only choice.[/quote] This makes it much worse. Stick to your big board. We had a Guy rated higher that could potentiallyplay rt. A run on hbs is great for us. A higher rated Guy would most definitely fall to us in the 2nd round if this supposed run on HBs occurs.[/quote]




    You're still mad?




    [/quote] Yes. If what garafalo says is true, then I need no more confirmation[/quote]




    You'll get over it when our running attack improves substantially next season. It was our greatest weakness and we have begun the process of addressing it.

    Get well soon 80.

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    [quote user="lawl"][quote user="slipknottin"]Talking to Garafolo a bit, he says he was told Glenn was higher on their draft board, does not know if there were other players higher, Wilson was definately higher than Martin however. He says the giants thought if there was a run on HBs that guys like Pead, Polk, James, etc would all be gone before they picked in the 2nd. They clearly felt the talent drop off after the 2nd round at HB was rather substantial. Thought Wilson was substantially better than the other HBs remaining, so they pulled the trigger now, rather than missing out on a bunch of HBs they liked by the time their 2nd round pick came up. Makes sense from that aspect. So its a bit of a reach, but if there is a run on HBs and a bunch go second round, that may have been really their only choice.[/quote] This makes it much worse. Stick to your big board. We had a Guy rated higher that could potentiallyplay rt. A run on hbs is great for us. A higher rated Guy would most definitely fall to us in the 2nd round if this supposed run on HBs occurs.[/quote]




    We all know that you hate drafting RB's high, but when is the first round that you think that a team should consider drafting a RB?

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    If you have a great qb. You should just put random rbs on the team. More importantly just a Guy that can catch balls.teams with young qbs should be the ones that target rbs early to help his development.


    I wanted Demarco Murray and I wanted Taiwan Jones. Middle round rbs will provide uswith more than enough impact

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    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lawl"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="lawl"][quote user="slipknottin"]Talking to Garafolo a bit, he says he was told Glenn was higher on their draft board, does not know if there were other players higher, Wilson was definately higher than Martin however. He says the giants thought if there was a run on HBs that guys like Pead, Polk, James, etc would all be gone before they picked in the 2nd. They clearly felt the talent drop off after the 2nd round at HB was rather substantial. Thought Wilson was substantially better than the other HBs remaining, so they pulled the trigger now, rather than missing out on a bunch of HBs they liked by the time their 2nd round pick came up. Makes sense from that aspect. So its a bit of a reach, but if there is a run on HBs and a bunch go second round, that may have been really their only choice.[/quote] This makes it much worse. Stick to your big board. We had a Guy rated higher that could potentiallyplay rt. A run on hbs is great for us. A higher rated Guy would most definitely fall to us in the 2nd round if this supposed run on HBs occurs.[/quote]




    You're still mad?




    [/quote] Yes. If what garafalo says is true, then I need no more confirmation[/quote]




    You'll get over it when our running attack improves substantially next season.* It was our greatest weakness and we have begun the process of addressing it.

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    You don't understand. I don't care. He probably will be very good. The point is, its not a percentage pick.

    A rb in the first rd takes away an asset that could have been invested in a valuable position

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    [quote user="lawl"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lawl"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="lawl"][quote user="slipknottin"]Talking to Garafolo a bit, he says he was told Glenn was higher on their draft board, does not know if there were other players higher, Wilson was definately higher than Martin however. He says the giants thought if there was a run on HBs that guys like Pead, Polk, James, etc would all be gone before they picked in the 2nd. They clearly felt the talent drop off after the 2nd round at HB was rather substantial. Thought Wilson was substantially better than the other HBs remaining, so they pulled the trigger now, rather than missing out on a bunch of HBs they liked by the time their 2nd round pick came up. Makes sense from that aspect. So its a bit of a reach, but if there is a run on HBs and a bunch go second round, that may have been really their only choice.[/quote] This makes it much worse. Stick to your big board. We had a Guy rated higher that could potentiallyplay rt. A run on hbs is great for us. A higher rated Guy would most definitely fall to us in the 2nd round if this supposed run on HBs occurs.[/quote]




    You're still mad?




    [/quote] Yes. If what garafalo says is true, then I need no more confirmation[/quote]




    You'll get over it when our running attack improves substantially next season. It was our greatest weakness and we have begun the process of addressing it.




    [/quote] You don't understand. I don't care. He probably will be very good. The point is, its not a percentage pick. A rb in the first rd takes away an asset that could have been invested in a valuable position[/quote]




    All this whining of yours is because you don't think its a "percentage pick"?




    Thats a lot of hysterics over a benign point Lawl. Now go ahead and cancel that order you put in forthe JR Vodoo doll.

    Get well soon 80.

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    Re: DAVID WILSON THE PICK

    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lawl"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lawl"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="lawl"][quote user="slipknottin"]Talking to Garafolo a bit, he says he was told Glenn was higher on their draft board, does not know if there were other players higher, Wilson was definately higher than Martin however. He says the giants thought if there was a run on HBs that guys like Pead, Polk, James, etc would all be gone before they picked in the 2nd. They clearly felt the talent drop off after the 2nd round at HB was rather substantial. Thought Wilson was substantially better than the other HBs remaining, so they pulled the trigger now, rather than missing out on a bunch of HBs they liked by the time their 2nd round pick came up. Makes sense from that aspect. So its a bit of a reach, but if there is a run on HBs and a bunch go second round, that may have been really their only choice.[/quote] This makes it much worse. Stick to your big board. We had a Guy rated higher that could potentiallyplay rt. A run on hbs is great for us. A higher rated Guy would most definitely fall to us in the 2nd round if this supposed run on HBs occurs.[/quote]




    You're still mad?




    [/quote] Yes. If what garafalo says is true, then I need no more confirmation[/quote]




    You'll get over it when our running attack improves substantially next season.* It was our greatest weakness and we have begun the process of addressing it.




    [/quote] You don't understand. I don't care. He probably will be very good. The point is, its not a percentage pick. A rb in the first rd takes away an asset that could have been invested in a valuable position[/quote]




    All this whining of yours is because you don't think its a "percentage pick"?




    Thats a lot of hysterics over a benign point Lawl.* Now go ahead and cancel that order you put in for*the JR Vodoo doll.

    [/quote]

    Its the wrong thing to do.

  8. #198

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    [quote user="lawl"][quote user="slipknottin"]Talking to Garafolo a bit, he says he was told Glenn was higher on their draft board, does not know if there were other players higher, Wilson was definately higher than Martin however.

    He says the giants thought if there was a run on HBs that guys like Pead, Polk, James, etc would all be gone before they picked in the 2nd. They clearly felt the talent drop off after the 2nd round at HB was rather substantial.

    Thought Wilson was substantially better than the other HBs remaining, so they pulled the trigger now, rather than missing out on a bunch of HBs they liked by the time their 2nd round pick came up.

    Makes sense from that aspect. So its a bit of a reach, but if there is a run on HBs and a bunch go second round, that may have been really their only choice.[/quote]

    This makes it much worse.

    Stick to your big board. We had a Guy rated higher that could potentiallyplay rt.

    A run on hbs is great for us. A higher rated Guy would most definitely fall to us in the 2nd round if this supposed run on HBs occurs.[/quote]

    I'm a little surprised they let Cordy Glenn get by them as well, but considering that our worst first round pick under Reese was Aaron Ross, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

    We also have our starting offensive line on our team so chances are whoever we picked at OG/OT wouldn't play this year and we got a running back who doesn't necessarily need a lot of blocking in front of him.
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    I have said this all week and I'll repeat it again.**




    This entire "BPA" theory is myth.* GM's all claim that they go BPA, all of them.* Its a crock.* JR and every other GM consider need very heavily in the draft.* Especially early in the draft.




    This is JR's 6th draft.* In 4 of those drafts he addressed needs in the first round.* Only JPP and Prince were truly PBA picks.* Plaxico shoots himself and what do you know...., our "BPA" turned out to be Hakeem Nicks.* We desperately needed a safety in 2008 and like nagic or "BPA" just happened to be Kenny Phillips.* Same was true with Ross and now Wilson.




    These guys (and many of you posters) can thump your chests about being "BPA Purists", but its all nonsense.* Yes we in ideal situations will go BPA, but football teams have needs, and its a "win now" league.* Don't kid yourselves, need is always a consideration.

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    +1

    When someone says BPA it's usually because they're too lazy/stupid to form an educated opinion.
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    If you have a great qb. You should just put random rbs on the team. More importantly just a Guy that can catch balls.teams with young qbs should be the ones that target rbs early to help his development.[/quote]

    Obviously the professionals disagree with you (thank god).
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