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    Mel Kiper's take on Giants drafts from 2004-2009

    someone sent this to me earlier today, so i cant take credit for the compilation, but be ready to laugh hard here...


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    2004:
    1- Manning
    2- Snee
    4- Torbor
    5- Gibril Wilson
    6- Jamaar Taylor
    7- Strojny

    Kiper:
    Quote:
    New York Giants: C+
    It all hinges on Eli Manning and how he pans out. The Giants obviously felt he was significantly better than the other top quarterbacks or they would not have given up so much to get him. There will be tremendous pressure on him to make it all worth it, but Ernie Accorsi has a history of being a good judge of young quarterbacks, so it could all work out. Chris Snee was a solid pickup at guard but they did pass on Nat Dorsey, failing to upgrade the left tackle spot. Gibril Wilson was arguably the defensive MVP for Tennessee last season.



    2005:
    2- Webster
    3- Tuck
    4- Jacobs
    6- Eric Moore

    Kiper:

    Quote:
    New York Giants: C
    Cornerback Corey Webster was slowed by nagging injuries last season but is a tremendous cover man when healthy and had a top-10 grade after his junior season. Justin Tuck is an okay end in the third round but should have gone back to Notre Dame, Brandon Jacobs should carve a niche as a power back and end Eric Moore is also an okay pick. The Giants just did not have enough selections to make a big impact on their football team.



    2006:
    1- Kiwanuka
    2- Moss
    3- Wilkinson
    4- Cofield
    4- Whimper
    5- Peprah
    7- Gerrick McPhearson

    Kiper:

    Quote:
    New York Giants: GRADE: C+
    DE Mathias Kiwanuka was a reach late in the first round, but he will get a chance to learn from Michael Strahan and Osi Umenyiora. Getting WR Sinorice Moss in the second round was one of the best picks in the draft; he could be the deep threat the Giants' offense needs. Guy Whimper is a versatile offensive lineman and could have gone higher than the fourth round.



    2007:
    1- Ross
    2- Steve Smith
    3- Alford
    4- DeOssie
    5- Boss
    6- Koets
    7- Michael Johnson
    7- Bradshaw

    Kiper:

    Quote:
    New York Giants: GRADE: C-
    I would have gone differently with the Giants’ draft. Cornerback Aaron Ross has very good ball skills but not great catchup speed. I was surprised they didn’t take left tackle Joe Staley because they need someone who can protect Eli Manning’s blind side. The Giants took offensive tackle Adam Koets in the sixth round and even passed on left tackle Jermon Bushrod. If they had taken Staley, they could have drafted Eric Wright from UNLV instead of WR Steve Smith. I would rather have had Staley and Wright, but Smith is a good receiver and will be someone who holds onto the ball. Zak DeOssie was a really good long snapper in college and, at worst, will be a backup linebacker in the NFL. Kevin Boss (fifth round) is a natural pass-catching tight end with speed and has a chance to make an impact in the passing game. Safety Michael Johnson was a good pick in the seventh round but needs to be more physical.



    2008:
    1- Phillips
    2- T. Thomas
    3- Manningham
    4- Kehl
    5- Goff
    6- Woodson
    6- Robert Henderson

    Kiper:

    Quote:
    New York Giants: GRADE: C+
    I understand taking safety Kenny Phillips with the last pick in the first round. He had a great sophomore season in 2006. Terrell Thomas could be a No. 2 cornerback, but I thought that pick was just OK. Wide receiver Mario Manningham is worth a role of the dice in the third round because he has talent, but his stock dropped in the months leading up to the draft, with some teams viewing him as a late-round pick. Jonathan Goff was a good find in the fifth round, and the same can be said about Andre’ Woodson in Round 6. Defensive end Robert Henderson is just a marginal prospect.



    2009:
    1- Nicks
    2- Stintim
    2- Beatty
    3- Barden
    3- Beckum
    4- Andre Brown
    5- Bomar
    6- Wright
    7- Woodson

    Kiper:

    Quote:
    New York Giants: GRADE: B
    The selection of first-round wide receiver Hakeem Nicks could be a good one, but he really needs to keep his weight up to make an impact in the NFL. I like the selection of offensive tackle William Beatty in the second round and wide receiver Ramses Barden in the third round. They made some good selections late in the draft with running back Andre Brown in the fourth and the two defensive backs in the sixth and seventh rounds: DeAndre Wright and Stoney Woodson.



    Long story is, Kiper's not the draft grader to read..



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    Re: Mel Kiper's take on Giants drafts from 2004-2009

    Honorable Mentions:
    "Justin Tuck is an okay end in the third round but should have gone back to Notre Dame"

    (After getting Webster, Tuck, and Jacobs 2, 3, 4) "The Giants just did not have enough selections to make a big impact on their football team."

    But of course the Grand Prize:

    "Getting WR Sinorice Moss in the second round was one of the best picks in the draft"



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    Re: Mel Kiper's take on Giants drafts from 2004-2009

    That Sinorice Moss statement is classic

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    Re: Mel Kiper's take on Giants drafts from 2004-2009

    [quote user="egyptian420"]That Sinorice Moss statement is classic
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    I think I wet myself a little laughing so hard at that one.

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    Re: Mel Kiper's take on Giants drafts from 2004-2009

    This is awesome! By his constant failing we get 3-4 great players a draft!! This draft should be a good draft for us haha

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    ok.....I'd be the first one to jump on the "question Mel Kiper" bandwagon.....I've always felt he had a job with very little accountability, since you can't truly evaluate a draft until several years down the road.




    But what's the expectation? Perfection? I wouldn't think so. And he was certainly dead wrong with several of his comments (Moss evaluation leading the way).......but if you look at this objectively, there were many evaluations that were pretty spot on. On the other hand, many of the comments can also be read as non-commital......2004 for instance.....graded the draft a C but qualified it saying it all hinged on how things turned out with Eli.


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    Re: Mel Kiper's take on Giants drafts from 2004-2009

    Great post!

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    Re: Mel Kiper's take on Giants drafts from 2004-2009

    His analysis for 2004 and 2008 was fairly accurate even though the grades don't really match what he wrote. Based on what he wrote, both should deserve at least a B+ with the stipulation that the 04 grade changes based on Eli (clearly an A+ now). The rest was just laughable.

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    [quote user="ebick"]

    ok.....I'd be the first one to jump on the "question Mel Kiper" bandwagon.....I've always felt he had a job with very little accountability, since you can't truly evaluate a draft until several years down the road.




    But what's the expectation?* Perfection?* I wouldn't think so.* And he was certainly dead wrong with several of his comments (Moss evaluation leading the way).......but if you look at this objectively, there were many evaluations that were pretty spot on.* On the other hand, many of the comments can also be read as non-commital......2004 for instance.....graded the draft a C but qualified it saying it all hinged on how things turned out with Eli.

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    I hear you, but...........this brings up a great point. You just can't go by his board. Seems the GMs know a thing or two.

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    Re: Mel Kiper's take on Giants drafts from 2004-2009

    Getting WR Sinorice Moss in the second round was one of the best picks in the draft;
    LOL

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