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    NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: TUESDAY, JUNE 5, 2012 - 6:07 P.M.

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    NEWARK STAR LEDGER

    OSI UMENYIORA'S REWORKED CONTRACT WITH GIANTS: THE REAL NUMBERS

    "Before I get into this, I want to correct one thing about the value of Osi
    Umenyiora's new deal
    as I had reported it.



    I had previously mentioned the Giants
    had offered Umenyiora $7 million to $7.5 million over one year, per someone
    familiar with previous talks. I've since learned that's incorrect and that I
    misunderstood.








    What that person was trying to tell me was that, one, the total I just
    mentioned was over two years (the second year being easily voidable) and, two,
    perhaps the Giants would give Umenyiora a bump to make this thing happen. In
    other words, the person was suggesting the offer could have been increased from
    the one-year proposal that was previously $6.5 million.




    That's a long way of explaining my previous estimate was incorrect. I'm
    rereading the texts and seeing where the miscommunication occurred. Sorry about
    that, folks.




    Anyway, the point of this entry is to let you know I finally have the real
    numbers on Umenyiora's new deal, which ESPN's Andrew Brandt reported on Monday
    was worth $6.5 million. The "base" numbers I have add up to $6 million. Take a
    look:




    2012
    Signing bonus: $2 million
    Base salary: $2.5 million
    Reporting
    bonus: $250,000
    Roster bonus: $750,000 ($46,875 per game on the 46-man active
    list) Roster bonus: $500,000 ($31,250 per game on the 53-man roster)




    2013
    Base salary: $1 million
    Note: This is a voidable year. What makes
    it void was not included in the breakdown I received, but trust me when I say
    it'll void extremely easily. Umenyiora won't be playing under this deal next
    year.




    Now, as I mentioned, Brandt had this deal at $6.5 million. He didn't provide
    a breakdown of how he got to that number, so I can't tell you how he got there.
    I do know, as I've previously reported, the Giants were offering a sack bonus if
    Umenyiora reached 10 sacks. Perhaps that's where the extra $500,000 lies.




    In any event, this is all finally behind us. All of us."


    OSI UMENYIORA RETURNS TO PRACTICE WITH GIANTS WITH NO CLOUDS HANGING OVER HIS HEAD

    "Osi Umenyiora returned to his locker to find garbage and random pieces of
    mail. It was a bit of traditional ribbing from his teammates, who were glad to
    see the formerly disgruntled defensive end back for organized team
    activities.


    The
    two-time Pro Bowl selection was on the field
    with the rest of the Giants today, three days after reaching
    agreement on a restructured final year of his contract.




    “I am playing for fun, honestly, because I love to play,” Umenyiora, who had
    been absent all spring, said after the session. “If you go out there thinking
    about playing for a contract, the contract will never come, that is for sure. I
    have made money and I am happy to be here with my teammates.




    “I don’t know what is going to happen next year. I might have a great year
    and decide to stay.“




    Let’s not get crazy here. Umenyiora is relieved and content, but by no means
    is he ecstatic with a one-year restructure instead of a long-term deal.
    Meanwhile, the agreement doesn’t change the fact the Giants still have to
    allocate money to extend the contracts of Justin Tuck and Jason Pierre-Paul,
    which expire after the 2013 and 2014 seasons, respectively.




    In fact, even Umenyiora admitted redoing the contracts of Tuck (“the face of
    the franchise”) and Pierre-Paul (“a young phenom”) before his would be the
    priority if he was in GM Jerry Reese’s role. So while he was looking for a
    long-term contract last offseason — and resisted the team’s offers for a raise
    but not an extension — he realized a multiyear deal at what he sees as market
    value wasn’t doable.




    Hence the one-year restructure, which ESPN reported bumped Umenyiora’s 2012
    total compensation from $4.7 million to $6.5 million, and a relieved Tom
    Coughlin.




    “Right now, with three OTAs and a minicamp to go, (having Umenyiora back is)
    the most important thing,” the Giants coach said. “There’s never any question
    about Osi’s preparation. He’s a tremendous studier of the opponent, he knows
    exactly what his thoughts are going into the game and how the game plan fits
    him, so on and so forth. He will always do that.




    “But to get back into a football frame of mind, and a positive one at that,
    it’s a very good thing.”




    Because, frankly, it could’ve been a lot uglier.

    Had Umenyiora heeded the advice of his agent, Tony Agnone, this battle would’ve
    continued for a while, perhaps into a training-camp holdout. But Umenyiora
    claimed the situation was draining him and keeping him up at night, so he fired
    Agnone and took the best short-term deal he could get.



    Umenyiora is now scheduled to be a free agent next spring (even he knows the
    Giants wouldn’t give him roughly $11 million via the franchise tag) and says
    he’ll soon rehire Agnone to conduct all future contract negotiations.




    “He felt like it was a substandard deal. He felt like I was worth more than
    that,” Umenyiora said of Agnone. “He wasn’t going to allow me to sign something
    that was substandard in his opinion. ... At the end of the day, man, I just want
    to come in and play and get it over with.”



    In a statement, Agnone said, “Osi’s a fabulous player and person. I look forward
    to continuing our professional and personal relationships.”




    And Umenyiora is looking forward to improving on last season, in which he
    recorded nine sacks in nine regular-season games and another 3½ in the playoffs.
    At 30 years old, he has the chance to set himself up for a big payday next year,
    even if he admits he probably has only two seasons left before being merely a
    pass-rush specialist.




    For now, he’s focused and saying all the right things — he doesn’t care if
    he’s not technically the starter, he wouldn’t change a thing about how he
    handled his contract situation, and he’s relieved today’s session figures to be
    the last one about financial gripes.




    “For the first time in a while,” he said, “I don’t really have any
    issues.”

    GIANTS;' MARKUS KUHN CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN OTAS UNTIL HE RECEIVES WORK VISA

    "Markus Kuhn was in uniform for yesterday's organized team activity, but he
    didn't participate. And it wasn't because he's injured, though he was held out
    of rookie minicamp a couple weeks ago because of a leg laceration.


    It was because he's not allowed to.




    Kuhn, a native of Germany, isn't an American citizen. As a result, he needs a
    work visa, which takes anywhere between a couple weeks and six months to
    receive. And he's still waiting for it.




    "This just takes a little bit with bureaucracy," the 26-year-old rookie
    defensive tackle said yesterday. "It just takes a second. But it's nothing
    crazy. It should come in any day, but until then we have to wait because I can't
    work."




    Kuhn said the Giants were aware of the situation when they drafted him in the
    seventh round out of North Carolina State and he applied for a work visa that
    will be valid for five years, though he could get one that lasts ten years. He
    isn't allowed to participate in any on-field activity as an employee, but can
    and has taken part in the classroom portion of OTAs.




    "It's so strange. It never happens, but it is what is," Kuhn said. "I can get
    it any day now."

    GIANTS' WILL BEATTY SIDELINED BY BACK ISSUES

    "The Giants held a brief organized team
    activities session today – the final OTA open to the media – that included only
    individual drills, team walk-throughs and 7-on-7 passing drills. In other words,
    at no point did the offensive and defensive lines face one another.


    Still, there was a notable absence once again in left tackle Will
    Beatty
    , who was not on the field for the workout. Beatty is dealing
    with an undisclosed back issue.




    “That’s kind of slowed him down. He’s improving every day,” coach Tom
    Coughlin
    said. “I don’t know that he will make the minicamp (next
    week), but he’s making good progress.”




    Beatty missed the final month-plus of the regular season and all of the
    postseason with a detached retina. Now, it’s his back, which flared up in the
    week before the game against the Eagles last November (the game in which he
    injured his eye).




    Coughlin was asked if the back problem is going to be an ongoing issue for
    Beatty.




    “I hope not, but it’s always a concern,” Coughlin said. “Anybody that has had
    a bad back realizes that if you get yourself in trouble it’s very difficult to
    get out of trouble in a short amount of time. It’s painful. But he he’s worked
    well at it. He’s in every meeting and I’m encouraged by that. He’s not
    uncomfortable sitting in his meeting room chair, so he’s making good
    progress.”




    In the meantime, James Brewer has worked as the first-string
    left tackle, though Brewer said he’s also taken reps at right tackle.




    * * * *




    Today’s dose of bad injury news came early when S Tyler Sash
    appeared to strain his hamstring in the first portion of practice.




    Sash, a sixth-round pick last year who played in all 20 of the team’s games
    as a rookie and was a key contributor on special teams in the playoffs, was
    limping very badly both on his way off the field and in the locker room a bit
    later. The way he was moving, it was pretty clear he won’t be doing anything for
    the rest of the spring. We’ll see if this issue lingers into training camp.




    * * * *




    As I said, it was a brief practice with no team drills, so we can really only
    highlight a few things that happened during 7-on-7s. But first, a rundown of the
    injury situation:




    --DT Shaun Rogers was not on the field. Coughlin said he’s
    been dealing with an elbow issue. Rogers has been participating in meetings.




    --CBs Corey Webster (undisclosed), Terrell
    Thomas
    (knee) and Prince Amukamara (foot) all sat out
    7-on-7s, as they have for all of the OTAs. Coughlin said Amukamara has only been
    cleared to do individual drills. “I was hoping, having him cleared to do
    individual, and a couple of other guys, we might be outside on the grass,”
    Coughlin said. “But we were in here (in the indoor facility) because of the
    weather.”




    --Obviously, WR Hakeem Nicks (foot) and TEs Travis
    Beckum
    (knee) and Jake Ballard (knee) were not on
    hand. Also, DT Chris Canty (knee) remains out.




    --Others limited at least a little bit: DE Justin Tuck
    (shoulder), S Kenny Phillips (knee), RB Ahmad
    Bradshaw
    (foot), TE Martellus Bennett (hamstring) WR
    Dan DePalma (hip) and CB Antwaun Molden
    (hamstring).




    --DT Markus Kuhn is sitting out because apparently he
    doesn’t have a work visa. Jorge Castillo will have more on that for you on
    Tuesday.




    * * * *




    And now, those highlights I promised:




    --WR Ramses Barden was one of a few players Coughlin
    mentioned as having stood out during OTAs. He had a nice little practice today,
    with a tough catch in traffic on a ball from QB Eli Manning
    that LB Keith Rivers was lunging to reach. As I’ve mentioned a
    few times, Barden has shown an ability to make such catches. Barden later ran a
    good route up the seam to catch a ball from QB David Carr and
    would’ve had another catch on a well-run “sail” route had Carr seen him finding
    a hole in the zone.




    --The other players Coughlin mentioned were: CB Michael Coe,
    LB/DE Adrian Tracy and rookie RB David Wilson.
    So take that for what it’s worth.




    --Nice catch for rookie WR Rueben Randle on an in cut about
    10 yards down the field in front of CB Brandon Bing and S
    Stevie Brown. Bing later rebounded with a pass defensed when he
    peeled off the guy he was covering to jump in front of a receiver running a
    short route close by.




    --A rare miscommunication between Manning and WR Domenik
    Hixon
    . Manning threw outside; Hixon broke inside. Given both players
    are touted for being on point with their assignments, I don’t know which way I’d
    lean if I had to guess which one goofed. Based on body language, I’d say
    Manning, but that’d be a strict guess.




    --RB Da’Rel Scott was lined up out wide (a role the Giants
    tried using him in last season) and did a nice job of getting CB Dante
    Hughes
    to turn his hips and head upfield. When Scott planted on the
    short hook, he had a good 5 yards and then some of cushion.




    --We haven’t seen many deep balls connected in the sessions that have been
    open to the media. Today, Carr tried to hit WR Jerrel Jernigan
    on one but CB Justin Tryon had good coverage up the field.
    Later, Carr overshot WR Brandon Collins but that might’ve been
    because Collins had to reroute at the line to get past a decent jam by rookie CB
    Jayron Hosley.




    --There were two hiccups for Hosley, though: a dropped interception after
    nicely slipping underneath WR Isaiah Stanback’s in cut (from QB
    Ryan Perrilloux) and what appeared to be a missed assignment on
    a short hook over the middle caught by Collins. I was watching LB Jake
    Muasau
    , who seemed to vacate the zone for Collins when he followed TE
    Ryan Purvis on a short out, but defensive coordinator
    Perry Fewell corrected Hosley. Perhaps both Hosley and Muasau
    missed assignments there. Either way, Collins had a big spot to make a
    catch.




    --Probably the offensive play of the day was Purvis’ coming back to make a
    great adjustment and catch on an underthrown pass from Perrilloux up the left
    seam. Purvis working back toward the ball allowed him to easily out-jump and
    out-position LB Jacquian Williams, whose momentum was taking
    him up the field."

    http://www.nj.com/giants/

    NY DAILY NEWS

    GIANTS ARE FIRED UP TO DEFEND SUPER BOWL TITLE WITH DISTRACTION OF OSI UMENYIORA CONTRACT OUT OF THE WAY

    "Eli Manning and Tom Coughlin are the NFL’s best quarterback-coach combination
    as the countdown to the start of the Giants’ Super Bowl defense has reached
    three months. But how much better are they than Tom Brady and Bill Belichick or
    Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy?


    Or Drew Brees and, well, forget that
    one, because the Saints will be holding a lottery to see who coaches them each
    week.




    The Giants separate themselves from the rest of the league with the way they
    get after the quarterback. When Justin Tuck and Osi
    Umenyiora
    are happy and healthy to go along with Jason Pierre-Paul’s
    dominance, the pass rush is devastating. Besides Manning becoming an elite
    quarterback last season, the reason the Giants were invited to the White House
    this coming Friday is the mayhem their pass rushers caused Matt Ryan, Rodgers,
    Alex Smith and Brady in the postseason.




    “If we are on the same field at the same time, as evidenced by what we did
    last year towards the end, we provide a matchup problem for a lot of people,”
    Umenyiora said Monday when he showed up for his first offseason practice.




    Umenyiora agreed to a restructured deal for the 2012 season that keeps the Giants
    trio intact for at least one more season
    .

    The Giants
    increased Umenyiora’s pay from $3.975 to $7.5 million in the final year of the
    contract extension he signed in 2005 and has been trying to upgrade for the last
    few years. By the Giants adding money but not more years, Umenyiora will be an
    unrestricted free agent after the season and also will be an incredibly
    motivated player in his walk year as he goes for one more big payday.




    “Just know I am happy to be here and happy to play for what they are paying
    me,” Umenyiora said. “Things will be good for me.”




    No team has pass rushers like the Giants. In the base defense, they rotate
    Tuck, JPP and Umenyiora to stay fresh. On passing downs, Tuck moves inside,
    giving them three premier pass rushers. The issue last season was Tuck’s various
    injuries, Umenyiora’s knee surgery during camp, his high ankle sprain late in
    the season and his state of mind due to his contract, which seemed to weigh him
    down more than trying to get around 350-pound tackles. JPP is coming off a
    161/2-sack, first-team All-Pro season and is probably a year away from a
    contract showdown.




    Umenyiora returned for the final game of last season against the Cowboys
    after missing four games after injuring his ankle against the Saints. One week
    earlier, Tuck mentally put his injuries aside and was a different player. JPP
    was great all season. In that Dallas game, the Giants sacked Tony Romo six
    times, two by Umenyiora and one each by JPP and Tuck. In the four playoff games,
    Umenyiora and Tuck each had 31/2 sacks. JPP had a half-sack. Tuck’s upbeat
    mental state and Umenyiora’s improved physical state changed everything about
    the defense in January.




    The Giants have never come close to repeating as Super Bowl champs. They
    might have been on their way to doing so in 2008 until Plaxico Burress shot
    himself in the leg on the night after Thanksgiving. If the Giants avoid
    devastating distractions and JPP, Tuck and Umenyiora stay healthy, this can be
    the year they make a serious run at repeating.




    Umenyiora had nine sacks in just nine regular-season games in 2011 and was
    just under a sack a game average in the playoffs. At 30 years old, it’s to his
    benefit not to have to play 65 snaps a game. He says he doesn’t mind if he’s not
    starting and playing behind Tuck and JPP because “those are my brothers. If they
    are starting, I don’t care. I will back those guys up happily.”




    Umenyiora seemed so relieved to have his contract settled for this season
    that he even agreed if the Giants can only pay two defensive ends big money, it
    should be Tuck, who he called the face of the franchise, and Pierre-Paul, who he
    called a phenom.

    He knew he wasn’t getting a long-term deal, but said if
    he were the Giants GM, he would have allowed himself “to seek his fortune
    elsewhere.” But nobody offered the Giants the first-round pick they demanded
    last summer and they weren’t about to cut him and let him be a free agent.




    This will likely be Umenyiora’s last season with the Giants. His teammates
    welcomed him back by dumping garbage in his locker. He said the contract was
    bothering him so much, it kept him up at nights. Now that that’s in the past,
    will it help him be a better player? “I don’t know how much better I can get,”
    he said.




    He was laughing. Umenyiora was happy. One less distraction for Coughlin to
    worry about."

    BENNETT THE "FREAK" INSISTS: "I'M NOT FAT"

    "Martellus Bennett was standing in front of his locker wearing shorts and
    nothing else. He stood up tall, looked down at his body, then posed a question
    to all the sportswriters hovering around him.



    “Do I look fat?” he
    asked.

    Before he could even get an answer, the Giants’ new tight end
    made it clear that he’s very much in shape despite the bombshell dropped by
    tight ends coach Mike Pope last week that Bennett weighed in at 291 pounds.
    Considering he’s listed at 265 and Tom Coughlin said he played in the 270s last
    season, clearly Bennett has added a few offseason pounds.

    And he did.
    But he said it’s only “a lot of muscle” which he got because he “rocked out”
    with the weights in the gym.

    “Faster, strong, jump higher, run longer,
    great conditioning,” Bennett said. “Every conditioning test we've had, I aced.
    Everything we've been doing. Routes, I've been running smoother, more explosive
    out of all my cuts. Just been beasting out all summer.

    “What you all
    should be writing is how much of a freak Martellus turned himself
    into.”

    Fair enough, but so far the “freak” hasn’t been able to put on a
    freak show on the field because he’s been nursing a hamstring injury through the
    Giants’ spring organized team activity sessions. And even Bennett admitted that
    injury “may have” been a result of all the extra weight he’s now carrying on his
    6-foot-6 frame. He said his legs have gotten a little “bulky” from all his work
    in the weight room.

    But Bennett was less concerned with that than he was
    with the perception that he’s “fat” or “out of shape,” which he said many people
    got when Pope expressed concern that his newest student was 291. Bennett already
    came from the Cowboys with a reputation for not exactly being the hardest worker
    in the room – a reputation he insisted has always been unfair.

    “If you
    ask any of the coaches, any of the guys on this team in the offseason program, I
    haven't missed a day,” he said. “I haven't stepped out of one workout or
    anything. I just pulled my hamstring because I overworked myself because I was
    squatting 450 and then went out there and ran routes.

    When he first
    heard and read some of the reports that said he was overweight, Bennett said “I
    was just like, 'That's some bulls--t,' because I'm not fat or out of shape. I
    mean I'm heavier than I was -- than I've ever been -- which I'll probably be
    like for the season. … I'm actually faster and more agile and more explosive
    than I've been in the past.”

    Bennett said he does expect his weight will
    eventually drop. He said right now his body fat is at 13 percent and he plans to
    get it down to 9 by the start of the season. But he’s happy with his new, bigger
    body in general – which includes biceps that he said measured three inches
    bigger than before. He said “I'm probably one of the top five strongest guys on
    this team right now” and “I’m running fast as fast as hell.”

    “That's
    what makes me different,” Bennett said. “A lot of guys just look at the number
    because a lot of tight ends nowadays are 6-1, 245. There's a lot smaller guys
    that they call hybrid tight ends that are a lot smaller than what the big tight
    ends in the NFL are.”

    And “big” does not necessarily mean fat – which,
    for the record, Bennett didn’t look at all. And he had no problem taking off his
    shirt and posing so everyone could see for themselves.

    “I had to let the
    world see because the way it sounds it's like, 'Damn this guy's fat?’ Like ‘He
    let himself get fat?'” Bennett said. “I just wanted everybody to know that I'm
    not fat. I'm trying to get an ‘8-pack’. I got 6 ½ now. I'm trying to get
    8.

    “I'm not really tripping. It is what it is. There's this perception
    about me that I don't work hard and I've actually been busting my (butt) all my
    life. Otherwise I wouldn’t be in the position I'm in.




    "I’m looking like Atlas,” Bennett added. “Not Professor Klump.”




    ***
    Other notes from the Giants’ final open OTA


    --LT Will Beatty remained out of OTA action
    due to a bad back that Tom Coughlin said “has kind of slowed him down” and
    probably will keep him out of minicamp. Coughlin said Beatty is making “good
    progress,” but there is clearly also some “concern.” “Anybody that has had a bad
    back realizes that if you get yourself in trouble it is very difficult to get
    out of trouble in a short amount of time,” Coughlin said. “It’s painful.But he
    has worked well at it.He is in every meeting, and I’m encouraged by that.He is
    not uncomfortable sitting in his meeting room chair, so he is making good
    progress.”

    --Who has caught Coughlin’s eye at the OTAs? Coughlin
    mentioned a few players. He said CB Michael Coe “had a couple of outstanding
    plays” and “a real good interception the other day.” He said WR Ramses
    Barden
    has had “good flash plays” and so has DE Adrian
    Tracy
    . He also continued to be impressed by the rookies, particularly
    RB David Wilson, the Giants’ first-round pick, who has flashed
    his “quickness and speed.”

    --CB Prince Amukamara (foot)
    has been cleared to do individual drills. … DT Shaun Rogers has
    been held out of OTAs due to what Coughlin called “some issues with an elbow.” …
    S TylerSash limped off the field early in
    OTAs. It was unclear exactly what happened, but he was limping badly as he left
    the fieldhouse. … CB Corey Webster, CB Bruce
    Johnson
    , LB Clint Sintim (knee), CB Antwaun
    Molden
    (hamstring) spent much of the time on the sidelines. Several
    other players were limited, including DE Justin Tuck
    (shoulder), RB Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) and S Kenny
    Phillips
    (knee). … Among the very few missing from the OTA were WR
    Hakeem Nicks (foot), TE Travis Beckum (knee),
    TE Jake Ballard (knee), DT Chris Canty (knee).
    … DT Markus Kuhn, the Giants’ seventh-round draft pick and a
    native of Germany, is unable to participate in OTAs because he has not yet
    gotten his work visa. The Giants anticipate he’ll have it in time for next
    week’s mandatory, full-team minicamp."



    OSI AT PEACE WITH NEW "SUBSTANDARD" CONTRACT

    "Osi Umenyiora didn’t exactly wave a white flag of surrender, but he realized
    there was no point in continuing his fight. He was never going to get the
    big-money contract he wanted from the Giants.


    So he gladly took whatever
    he could get.

    Now, for the first time in years, Umenyiora has peace and
    a little bit of happiness after restructuring his contract late last week. He
    had to temporarily fire his agent to get it, and sign what that agent told him
    was “a substandard deal.” But he said it was worth it to stop this annual
    contract mess from hovering over his head.

    “I feel like something
    special is being built over here,” the 30-year-old defensive end said Monday
    after attending his first offseason practice with the defending champs. “And I
    just much rather be here than continue to fight and face all the negativity and
    criticism over really what amounted to be nothing.”

    The fight, which had
    seemingly dragged on since the moment he signed a seven-year, $41 million
    contract extension in 2005, ended last week when the Giants offered again to
    bump his 2012 financial package from a salary of $3.975 million to a total of
    approximately $7-7.5 million, according to NFL sources. Umenyiora denied that he
    was asked by the Giants to fire his agent in order to get the deal done, as one
    source suggested last week. Instead, he said Tony Agnone stepped out of the way
    because “He felt like I was worth more than that.”

    The going rate for
    top pass-rushing defensive ends is about what the Eagles recently gave to Trent
    Cole – another Agnone client. Cole got a four-year extension worth $48.5 million
    with $15 million guaranteed.

    That’s about what a source said Umenyiora
    was looking for, but he said he came to realize that with Justin Tuck’s contract
    set to expire after the 2013 season and Jason Pierre-Paul’s deal up after the
    2014 season, the Giants couldn’t reserve that kind of money (and salary cap
    space) for him.

    “If I was them I’d do the same thing,” Umenyiora said.
    “Obviously you have Tuck who is the face of the franchise, and then you have JPP
    who’s a young phenom. You know, obviously I’m still a very good football player
    but you can’t pay all of us. You can’t pay us all that kind of money. There’s
    just no way you can do that. You’re going to hamstring your
    franchise.

    “So I would make the exact same decisions if I was them, no
    question. I don’t view it as a knock on me or a knock on the way I perform. All
    of us are all-pro players. You can’t pay us all like all-Pros.”

    To get
    his “all-pro” money, Umenyiora will have to leave the Giants when he becomes a
    free agent – assuming they don’t hit him with the “franchise player” tag (If
    they do, he said, he’d “happily” sign it). That means it’s very likely Umenyiora
    10th NFL season will be his last in New York.

    But at least it won’t be a
    controversial one and there’ll be no talk about him being unhappy or
    disgruntled, which he said he never really was even though he admitted “It
    definitely appeared that way.”

    Now, he said, he has finally put any
    semblance of bitterness behind him and has discovered peace in his
    time.

    “It kept me up at nights and I really didn’t like the way things
    were being handled by myself or anything,” Umenyiora said. “(The Giants) stepped
    up to the plate and they didn’t have to. They could have just allowed me to play
    out this last year (under the old terms of his deal). But they definitely,
    definitely showed me some love.”




    ***
    Osi Umenyiora, happy and unplugged


    (On whether he has any hard feelings after all his
    previous problems with the Giants
    ) “No, not at all. It is a business.
    The older you get in this league, they definitely have to handle their business
    in a certain way. To be honest with you, I understood exactly where they were
    coming from. But at the same time I had to look out for my best interest. I
    understand what they were doing. There is no hard feeling. Me and Jerry (Reese,
    the Giants GM) talked everything out. I talked to the owner and talked to
    everybody, I am just happy to be back.

    (On why he accepted this
    deal now, instead of a similar offer last summer
    ) “Last summer was
    different. What I was looking for last year and what I was looking for this year
    are completely different. Things change. This year there was no way they were
    going to be able to give me a contract extension in line of what other people
    were getting. You obviously have Justin and JP coming up and you would have
    three defensive ends making a ridiculous amount of money. You put your franchise
    in a very (difficult) position. There was no way they were going to be able to
    give me an extension. All we pretty much were discussing was what can be done
    for this year and we will see how things play out after this
    year.”

    (On whether he was truly ever unhappy with his situation
    with the Giants
    ) “I don’t think I was unhappy or disgruntled. It
    definitely appeared that way, but it was all business. There was no really hard
    feelings. I understood exactly where they were coming from and also knew I had
    to do what I had to do. I am happy to be here. I was happy to be here last year.
    I am going to go out there and continue to produce the way I have always done
    and help this team win.”

    (On whether he still believes there’s a
    big contract out there for him elsewhere
    ) “I don’t know. I don’t think
    I am playing for a contract. I am playing for fun. Honestly, because I love to
    play. If you go out there thinking about playing for a contract, the contract
    will never come, that is for sure. I have made money and I am happy to be here
    with my teammates. I don’t know what is going to happen next year. I might have
    a great year and decide to stay.”

    (On his temporary split with
    agent Tony Agnone
    ) “My agent is a great agent. In future negotiations,
    he is definitely going to represent me. He felt like it was a substandard deal.
    He felt like I was worth more than that. He wasn’t going to allow me to sign
    something that was substandard in his opinion. You can’t really look at what
    other defensive guys are making and you can’t argue with what he was saying. But
    I also knew that I wanted to come here and play and be around my teammates and
    the money will take care of itself. That is pretty much the whole situation. He
    is going to continue to represent me in the future.”

    (On why he
    changed his mind and took less money than he wanted
    ) “Honestly seeing
    the way my teammates, Kiwi and JP and Antrel, seeing the way they had my back,
    (saying) ‘You need to get this done’ and the way they were talking, it made me
    realize it was more important to have teammates like that and be on a team like
    this than fighting and haggling over a couple of extra dollars. It really wasn’t
    worth for me to go somewhere else. At the end of the day, I have been here, this
    is my 10th year here and I have had a great time here and I want it to continue
    and I feel like something special is being built over here and I just much
    rather be here than continue to fight and face all the negativity and criticism
    over really what amounted to be nothing.”

    (On the negative
    reaction he got from the public during his contract squabbles
    )
    “Honestly, man, you can’t really blame the public for not understanding a guy
    who is making millions of dollars complaining. You can’t blame them. They don’t
    know. Only the people who are involved really understand what’s going on. So for
    them to say ‘He needs to shut up and go play,’ I would be saying the exact same
    thing if I was them. So I didn’t really pay any attention to
    that.”

    (On whether he was being portrayed as a bad guy)
    “Yeah, but that’s the nature of the beast. It is what it is. People are going to
    think that was because obviously a lot of people aren’t as fortunate as we are
    so they’re going to think that way. But it’s all relative. There are people who
    are making $5 an hour right now and they complain and there are people in Africa
    who are like Man you’re complaining about making $5 an hour? It’s all relative,
    whatever situation you’re in.”

    (On what happens if the Giants
    use the “franchise tag” on him next March
    ) “If they want to, that’s
    fine with me. I’ll be OK with that. I have no problem. I will smile. I’ll come
    here before. The deadline to sign it, I’ll be here before.”

    (On
    whether he thinks the Giants have made Justin Tuck and Jason Pierre-Paul a
    priority over him
    ) “I wouldn’t say that, but if I was them I’d do the
    same thing. Obviously you have Tuck who is the face of the franchise, and then
    you have JPP who’s a young phenom. You know, obviously I’m still a very good
    football player but you can’t pay all of us. You can’t pay us all that kind of
    money. There’s just no way you can do that. You’re going to hamstring your
    franchise. So I would make the exact same decisions if I was them, no question.
    I don’t view it as a knock on me or a knock on the way I perform. But this is my
    10th year in the league. And it’s JPP’s third and Tuck’s eighth. All of us are
    all-pro players. You can’t pay us all like all-Pros. They had decisions to make
    and I completely respect them.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giant


    NY POST

    UMENYIORA UNDERGOES GIANTS TRANSFORMATION IN OTA DEBUT

    "Osi Umenyiora knows when it comes to investing long-term, the Giants will go
    with Justin Tuck and Jason Pierre-Paul ahead of him on the defensive line. And,
    this happier, more content version of Osi completely agrees with that
    thinking.



    “If I was them I’d do the same thing,’’ Umenyiora said yesterday after taking
    the field for an OTA practice for the first time this year. “I mean obviously
    you have Tuck, who’s the face of the franchise, and you have JPP, who’s a young
    phenom. Obviously I’m still a very good football player, but ... you can’t pay
    us all that kind of money, there’s just no way you can do that. “all of us are
    All-Pro players. You can’t pay us all like All-Pros. They had decisions to make
    and I completely respect them. If I had to pay two defensive ends top defensive
    end money, it would be JPP and Tuck."

    Consider this a new attitude for Umenyiora, who admitted the strain of his
    ongoing contract squabble with the Giants “kept me up at nights.’’ The
    30-year-old defensive end decided enough was enough and last week finally agreed
    to a contract restructuring.



    He will make $6.5 million this season, a $1.8 million bump-up from the $4.7
    million he was scheduled to make in salary ($3.975 million) and easily
    attainable roster bonuses. Umenyiora was heartened by the very public show of
    support from teammates such as Tuck, Pierre-Paul, Mathias Kiwanuka and Antrel
    Rolle and figured it was time to get to work.




    “Seeing the way they had my back, the way they were talking, it made me
    realize it was more important to have teammates like that and be on a team like
    this than fighting and haggling over a couple of extra dollars,’’ Umenyiora
    said. “It really wasn’t worth it for me to go somewhere else.




    “This is my 10th year here and I have had a great time here and I want it to
    continue and I feel like something special is being built over here. I’d just
    much rather be here than continue to fight and face all the negativity and
    criticism over really what amounted to be nothing.’’




    Looking and sounding more at peace than he has in years, Umenyiora said he
    still considers himself a starter although he’s not one with the Giants.




    “I think I have another two years before I get to the point where all I’m
    gonna do is rush the passer,’’ Umenyiora said. “This is good for me, I’m happy
    and, more importantly, it’s the team I’m on and the guys who I’m playing with,
    Justin and JPP and Kiwi, we’re all brothers and for all of us to be able to go
    out and play together is more important than anything.’’




    Coach Tom Coughlin said it is “a very good thing’’ to get Umenyiora “back
    into a football frame of mind — and a positive one at that.’’ That frame of mind
    did not come without a price, as Umenyiora last week dismissed Tony Agnone, his
    agent the past five years. Agnone also represents Trent Cole, who this offseason
    signed a four-year, $48 million extension with the Eagles, with $15 million in
    guaranteed money. Those are the numbers Umenyiora believes he’s worth, but he
    came to understand he isn’t getting it from the Giants.




    “He felt like it was a substandard deal,’’ Umenyiora said of Agnone, adding
    he is “a great agent’’ and he will re-hire him for any future negotiations. “You
    can’t really look at what other defensive guys are making and you can’t argue
    with what he was saying. But I also knew that I wanted to come here and play and
    be around my teammates and the money will take care of itself.’’




    Umenyiora was in such a cheerful mood he intimated this might not be his last
    season with the Giants.




    “I don’t know what is going to happen next year,’’ he said. “I might have a
    great year and decide to stay.’’

    OSI ARRIVES AT GIANTS' OTAS; FINE WITH LACK OF EXTENSION

    "Osi Umenyiora should finally be able to get a good night’s sleep.



    Upset with a situation he admitted “kept me up at nights’’ the veteran
    defensive end – he can no longer be characterized as “disgruntled’’ or “angry’’
    or “unhappy’’ -- on Monday sounded and appeared as at peace with himself and his
    surroundings as he’s been in years. He showed up, for the first time this
    offseason, for work at the Giants facility, took part in the OTA practice,
    absorbed some good-natured ribbing from his teammates and stressed that,
    mentally, he’s finally in a good place.




    “I don’t think I was unhappy or disgruntled,’’ Umenyiora said. “It definitely
    appeared that way but it was all business. There were really no hard feelings. I
    understood exactly where they were coming from and also knew I had to do what I
    had to do. I am happy to be here. I was happy to be here last year. I am going
    to go out there and continue to produce the way I have always done and help this
    team win.’’




    It is back to football for Umenyiora, who last Friday signed a restructured
    contract that bumped his 2012 salary from $4.7 million to around $7 million,
    enough money to put his mind at ease and, he says, allow him to concentrate on
    terrorizing opposing quarterbacks and not how underpaid he is. Umenyiora said
    this was the same salary increase he was offered last year, an offer he turned
    down as he asked for a trade. His agent, Tony Agnone, advised him not to accept
    the deal.




    “He felt like it was a substandard deal,’’ Umenyiora said. “He felt like I
    was worth more than that. He wasn’t going to allow me to sign something that was
    substandard in his opinion. You can’t really look at what other defensive guys
    are making and you can’t argue with what he was saying. But I also knew that I
    wanted to come here and play and be around my teammates and the money will take
    care of itself.’’




    Umenyiora last week dismissed Agnone as his agent and went ahead and signed
    the new deal.




    “We basically knew he wasn’t going to allow me to sign,’’ Umenyiora said. “He
    has been my agent for five years and nothing got done. This is I am not going to
    allow you to sign something that he didn’t feel was up to par. My agent is a
    great agent. In future negotiations, he is definitely going to represent me.




    “Last summer was different, what I was looking for last year and what I was
    looking for this year are completely different. Things change. This year there
    was no way they were going to be able to give me a contract extension in line of
    what other people were getting. You obviously have Justin [Tuck] and JP [Jason
    Pierre-Paul] coming up and you would have three defensive ends making a
    ridiculous amount of money. There was no way they were going to be able to give
    me an extension.’’




    Tuck’s contract has two more years left on it and Pierre-Paul has three years
    remaining. Umenyiora, through, says he isn’t at all insulted that he is third on
    that list in terms of how the Giants have set their priorities.




    “If I was them I’d do the same thing,’’ Umenyiora said. “I mean obviously you
    have Tuck, who’s the face of the franchise and you have JPP who’s a young
    phenom. Obviously I’m still a very good football player but you can’t pay us all
    that kind of money, there’s just no way you can do that. You’re gonna hamstring
    your franchise so I would make the exact same decisions if I was them, no
    question. I don’t view it as a knock on me or a knock on the way I perform. This
    is my 10th year in the league, it’s Jason’s third and Tuck’s eighth and all of
    us are All-Pro players. You can’t pay us all like All-Pros, they had decisions
    to make and I completely respect them. If I had to pay two defensive ends top
    defensive end money it would be JPP and Tuck.’’




    Umenyiora was in such a cheerful mood that he intimated that this might not
    his last season with the Giants.




    “If you go out there thinking about playing for a contract, the contract will
    never come, that is for sure,’’ he said. “I have made money and I am happy to be
    here with my teammates. I don’t know what is going to happen next year. I might
    have a great year and decide to stay.’’




    The key in Umenyiora coming to these conclusions, he said, were the strong
    words of support from his teammates, who were unanimous in their public
    sentiment that he was underpaid and invaluable to the team.




    “Seeing the way my teammates Kiwi [Mathias Kiwanuka] and JP and Antrel
    [Rolle] seeing the way they had my back, you need to get this done and the way
    they were talking, it made me realize it was more important to have teammates
    like that and be on a team like this then fighting and haggling over a couple of
    extra dollars,’’ Umenyiora said. “It really wasn’t worth for me to go somewhere
    else. At the end of the day, I have been here, this is my 10th year here and I
    have had a great time here and I want it to continue and I feel like something
    special is being built over here and I just much rather be here than continue to
    fight and face all the negativity and criticism over really what amounted to be
    nothing.’’



    http://www.nypost.com/sports/giants

    THE BERGEN RECORD

    WITH RESTRUCTURED DEAL, OSI UMENYIORA REJOINS HIS GIANTS' TEAMMATES

    "As it turns out, after what became a nearly two-year contentious contract
    squabble, Osi Umenyiora has agreed with Jerry Reese all along.


    Umenyiora admitted Monday if he were general manager of the Giants, he would
    have prioritized the future for the team’s defensive ends this way:




    Plan to take care of Justin Tuck and Jason Pierre-Paul and decide how to
    appease Umenyiora later.




    That financially jibes with what the Giants ultimately did, so in essence,
    what Umenyiora revealed after his first OTA session under his newly restructured
    contract is that philosophically he was in lockstep with Reese from the
    start.




    “Obviously, you have Tuck, who is the face of the franchise,” said Umenyiora,
    presumably referring to the defense with due respect to Eli Manning on the
    offensive side of the ball.




    “And then you have JPP, who’s a young phenom. You know, obviously I’m still a
    very good football player but you can’t pay all of us.




    “You can’t pay us all that kind of money. There’s just no way you can do
    that.




    You’re going to hamstring your franchise.




    “So I would make the exact same decisions if I was them, no question. … You
    can’t pay us all like All-Pros. They had decisions to make and I completely
    respect them.”




    The team did not disclose the terms of the new deal, but it is believed the
    Giants essentially doubled Umenyiora’s existing contract, which will now pay him
    roughly $7.5 million in 2012 before he becomes an unrestricted free agent after
    the season.




    As reporters crowded Umenyiora’s locker Monday, Pierre-Paul welcomed his
    teammate back with a celebratory shout from the opposite end of the locker
    room.




    Teammates such as Pierre-Paul, Tuck, Mathias Kiwanuka and Antrel Rolle
    supported Umenyiora’s quest for a new contract over the past month.




    “Very good to have him out there,” coach Tom Coughlin said Monday. “There is
    never any question about Osi preparation-wise. He is a tremendous studier of the
    opponent. … He will always do that, but to get back into a football frame of
    mind — and a positive one at that — it is a very good thing.”




    Umenyiora said he temporarily parted ways with agent Tony Agnone because the
    latter would not let him sign what he believed to be a “substandard deal.”




    But Umenyiora knew it was the best he was going to get, which is why he had
    to let Agnone go, sign and return to the Giants and worry about next year
    then.




    “He felt like it was a substandard deal,” Umenyiora said of Agnone, whom he
    plans to rehire in the near future.




    “He felt like I was worth more than that. He wasn’t going to allow me to sign
    something that was substandard in his opinion. You can’t really look at what
    other defensive guys are making and you can’t argue with what he was
    saying.”




    Agnone said in a statement: “Osi’s a fabulous player and person. I look
    forward to continuing our professional and personal relationships.”




    Umenyiora left the door open to return to the Giants next season, although
    that remains unlikely provided he wants to be paid more than what he has
    now.




    Umenyiora insists he won’t be chasing a contract, saying that will come if he
    plays his best this year — which is what the Giants are banking on in their
    quest to repeat as Super Bowl champion.




    “You go out there thinking about playing for a contract,” he said, “the
    contract will never come.”




    BRIEFS: Paterson native Victor Cruz
    teamed with rapper Travie McCoy of Gym Class Heroes to film a league-promoted
    Pepsi spot Monday. … TE Martellus Bennett took issue with those who criticized
    his tipping the scales at 291 pounds, weight gain he attributed to off-season
    power lifting. “I’m looking like Atlas, not Professor Klump,” said Bennett, who
    is sidelined with a sore hamstring. … Coughlin said OT Will Beatty (back) is
    “making good progress,” but is not expected to be ready for veteran minicamp
    next week. … S Tyler Sash limped off the field during a special teams drill with
    an apparent hamstring injury."

    http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_sports/football/

    WALL STREET JOURNAL

    http://online.wsj.com/public/page/news-sports-nfl.html

    THE NEW YORK TIMES

    http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/football/index.html

    GIANTS 101


    GIANTS' MARTELLUS BENNETT: "I'M LOOKING LIKE ATLAS, NOT PROFESSOR KLUMP"

    "Stop the presses! Have you not heard? New York
    Giants
    tight end Martellus Bennett weighs 291 pounds, and if you didn't
    know any better, you'd think that meant the world was rapidly coming to an
    end.


    The reaction to this revelation, first revealed by Big Blue tight end coach Mike Pope last week, has
    been dramatic and incredibly negative. With nothing more than the numbers to go
    by, fans and media alike have run with this story and acted like Bennett has
    channeled his inner Eric Cartman and progressively sucked down can
    after can of weight gain 4000
    .




    As it turns out however, Bennett actually is a "beefcake" and isn't just some
    slob chowing down at Burger King collecting an NFL check.





    "I'm looking like Atlas, not Professor Klump," Bennett said. "I just wanted
    everybody to know that I'm not fat. I'm trying to get an eight pack. I got six
    and a half now. I'm trying to get eight."




    To calm the masses, Bennett recently shared a shirtless photo via Instagram
    that proved relatively definitively that he's far from out of shape. In fact, he
    looked like was in tremendous shape, but perhaps too large to play tight end
    effectively.





    “There’s this perception about me that I don’t work hard,” said Bennett. ”If you ask any of the coaches, any of the guys
    on this team, the offseason program I haven’t missed a day. I haven’t stepped
    out of one workout or anything. I just pulled my hamstring because I overworked
    myself because I was squatting 450 [pounds] then went out there and ran
    routes.”




    To counteract the tremendous muscle gain, which has resulted in his biceps
    increasing by three inches, Bennett has slowed down on the weight training and
    focused more on cardio.





    "My body fat percent is like 13 [percent] — by the time the season comes I’ll
    be at nine percent body fat," Bennett added. "I got measured the other day,
    which I always do — get sexy for getting these suits for the summer. My biceps
    are like three inches bigger than they were last fall. I mean, I just been
    getting rocked up."




    So there you have it. He's Atlas and not Professor Klump. Time to redirect
    mass panic to something else. We hear the Zombie Apocalypse is coming…"

    GIANTS' OFFENSIVE LINE: QUESTION MARKS HEADING INTO TRAINING CAMP

    "It's no secret that the New York
    Giants
    offensive line has been a question mark this offseason and will
    continue to be as the team prepares for training camp in Albany. Last season,
    the Giants ranked last in the league in rushing and the lack of run blocking was
    the major contributing factor to that statistic. Prior to last season, the
    Giants had one of the most dependable offensive lines in the league. Veterans
    Shaun O'Hara, Rich Seubert, Kareem
    Mckenzie
    , David Diehl and Chris Snee, all started 59 of 69 games from the
    2006 playoffs through the end of the 2010 season. The group continually ranked
    among the best offensive lines in the NFL and were a major factor in helping Big Blue win the
    Super Bowl in 2007.


    However, all good things must come to an end, and the Giants dependable
    offensive line was no exception. Prior to last season, O'Hara and Seubert were
    both released due to age and injury concerns. This offseason, Kareem
    Mckenzie
    is still unsigned on the open market. General Manager Jerry
    Reese
    has brought in a cast of young, yet unproven players to help fill the
    voids left by the three veterans. Below, we will examine who the Giants will
    turn to in order to improve their rushing attack and more importantly, protect
    Eli Manning for the 2012 season.




    Chris Snee (RG)- The 6'3/ 305lb
    veteran out of Boston
    College
    has been the most dependable member of the Giants offensive line for
    the last several years. In 19 games last season (playoffs included), he only
    allowed two sacks and committed only 4 penalties. Furthermore, Snee has been
    very successful in avoiding the injury bug throughout his career. Since the 2005
    season, Snee has only missed one game. Look for the veteran guard to continue
    being the leader of the Giants offensive line this season.




    David Diehl (RT)Although Pro
    Football Focus ranked Diehl last in the league in pass blocking, the
    statistics say that 2011 was actually an improved year for the 6'5/304lb veteran
    out of Illinois. Diehlactually gave up half a sack less (6.5) than the prior
    season (7) and two sacks less (8.5) than the 2009 season. However, those
    statistics are nothing to brag about. If Diehl has a bad training camp, the
    Giants could look to younger players such as James
    Brewer
    to take over the right tackle position.




    Will Beatty (LT)The fourth year
    2nd round pick out of UConn played relatively well protecting Eli Manning's
    blind side through the first ten games last season; however, he suffered a
    detached retina in his right eye and missed the remainder of the year. Beatty
    should be back by training camp to reclaim his position, and hopefully he can
    improve after getting considerable experience at the position last season.




    Davis Baas (C)Being the teams
    biggest free agent signing heading into last season, there were high
    expectations for the center out of Michigan. However, he battled through an
    injury plagued season and was criticized for questionable play for almost the
    entire year. Baas improved during the playoffs; but he still has a ways to go if
    he wants live up to his 5 year/ $27.5 million deal he signed last offseason.
    That being said, there is really nobody capable of taking the starting center
    position from him. As long as Baas is healthy, look for him to be in the lineup
    for the 2012 season.




    Kevin
    Boothe
    (LG)
    The seventh year veteran out of
    Cornell started 13 games (including playoffs) last year; however, he has been a
    backup his entire career. Mitch
    Petrus
    will be giving Boothe a run for his money at the position; however,
    Offensive Line Coach Pat
    Flaherty
    recently commended Boothe for his play last season:





    “Kevin is going to go in there and give you a good day’s work. It’s a
    reflection on Kevin. He prepares himself to be able to do that. He takes his job
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    [quote user="NY_Eli"]Thanks RF! Benett seems like quite a character, hope he's as athletic as he is outspoken![/quote]

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